Post-Game Talk: #26 - 12/2/19 | golden knights @ RANGERS

[gravey9]

They need to move Panarin back to his off-wing on the PP. He's absolutely lethal when teams have to guard against his one timer. Opens up so much ice. Zibby has a hard shot but it's not very accurate as a one timer. And his passing while very good, is not as elite as Panarin. Personally I'd rather have Kakko on PP1 and Zibby as the right-handed shot on PP2 with Buchy and Chytil with Fox and Trouba at the point. Too many righties on the first unit. One-timer shots are important. One-timer passes are just as important.

 

[CasusBelli]

Kakko has been an objectively bad NHL player this season (and yeah, he's 18 but I wish he were better) but then he he does **** where you're just like "ok, that wasn't fair."

Our number one priority is nurturing him into what he could be.

His conditioning looks off again. It was poor to start the season. Then it got better. Then he got sick. Now it’s weak again. He’s young; getting back into form shouldn’t be an issue at this age. Otherwise, to your point, his stick handling has been solid here and there, and he generally uses his frame effectively, but that’s all that stands out. Hughes is definitely more, for lack of a better word, cerebral than KK. Nevertheless, with some conditioning and the right development, I still think KK can become a consistent 35-45G / 75-85P player.

 

[ohbaby]

His conditioning looks off again. It was poor to start the season. Then it got better. Then he got sick. Now it’s weak again.....

He looks slow. Too slow to defend, forecheck or break up plays,... not to mention get loose offensively. He was a bit handicapped coming into this season. He played a lot of hockey last year. Besides a full season in Liiga,... he played in 2 international tournaments before coming to the Rangers.

Next year, we will see the real Kaapo Kakko. But for now, seems like he is riding on fumes.

And don't forget, he is managing two lifelong illnesses, that require daily maintenance. (Type 1 diabetes and celiac disease) And managing that with an 82 game season for the first time. Everyone says this is no big deal, but these are very serious conditions that take great care to manage.

 

[Boris Zubov]

I flew all the way from Phoenix for this?

How's that weather feeling right about now?

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I flew all the way from Phoenix for this?

Sorry man

 

[Smart Alek]

Yeah idk what that was about. He pulled his stick away from the puck like we was trying to avoid scoring.

Looks like he had money on Vegas or something bc it was so obvious he avoided scoring a tap in goal.

At the last moment he determined that Subban would deflect the puck with his pad, and he repositioned his stick for a rebound instead. Turned out he was wrong.

 

[NYRFAN218]

likely, to sell as game-used souvenirs, or sell to a trading card company for them to cut up and put on cards.

The actual goal pucks get sold. You can go on the Fanatics website right now and buy a ton from last season if you want. For cards and such they usually cut up regular game used pucks.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Kreider played pretty well for once.... then decided that he didn’t want to score.

 

[NYROrtsFan]

We deserved better this game... Just couldn't finish a ton of chances.

Hajek is definitely coming out for Staal. I really do like Hajek, just starting to think that he's more of the typical developing defensemen. Just needs minutes and games at any level. He'll get better.

Kakko does look slow this year but he's young. As long as he works during the offseason and keeps trying to get better, he'll come back appearing faster next year. Same with the year after.

And don't ever put Zib with Panarin. It's just a waste. Panarin could have two people from this board as linemates and he's going to create offense.

 

[will1066]

I'm taking the glass-half-full approach to the five-righties power play and say that it was just a different look that Quinn and staff wanted to look at. Now it must be destroyed.

 

[Kovalev27]

Man two goals directly on Howden in very limited mins. Can’t happen.

 

[Irishguy42]

Now it must be destroyed.

 

[Captain Lindy]

The Lundqvist own goals are getting old. His coordination is gone. Father Time is winning again.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Man two goals directly on Howden in very limited mins. Can’t happen.

Brutal.

Lazy back check on his man who scored an easy tap in for the second Vegas goal.

Follows that up with an unforced give away at the offensive blue line gifting Vegas a breakaway and their third goal. This play was almost worse to me. You're the 4th line center, get the puck deep.

 

[NCRanger]

Was this one nearly as bad as the score indicates?

I only got to see the second half of the game, and from what I saw the Rangers were the dominant team (yeah, I know with a three/four goal lead teams do take the foot off the accelerator.) It did look like a lot of bad bounces and no puck luck in trying to score in the third.

I also read that Hank scored on himself (again), and the Vegas goals were more about Ranger mistakes than actual dominance.

 

[Leonardo87]

Was this one nearly as bad as the score indicates?

I only got to see the second half of the game, and from what I saw the Rangers were the dominant team (yeah, I know with a three/four goal lead teams do take the foot off the accelerator.) It did look like a lot of bad bounces and no puck luck in trying to score in the third.

I also read that Hank scored on himself (again), and the Vegas goals were more about Ranger mistakes than actual dominance.

Nah wasn't as bad as like that Ottawa or last Tampa game. The first goal, was Hank scoring on himself, 3rd goal was Trouba and Skjei getting caught back and caused a breakaway goal, and the 4th goal doesn't happen if the refs actually call a high stick on Lemmy, instead a min later Kakko takes a high sticking penalty, and Vegas scores a PP goal.

 

[will1066]

Was this one nearly as bad as the score indicates?

I only got to see the second half of the game, and from what I saw the Rangers were the dominant team (yeah, I know with a three/four goal lead teams do take the foot off the accelerator.) It did look like a lot of bad bounces and no puck luck in trying to score in the third.

I also read that Hank scored on himself (again), and the Vegas goals were more about Ranger mistakes than actual dominance.

Let's just say we shot pucks like the A-Team shot their guns.

 

[will1066]

The Lundqvist own goals are getting old. His coordination is gone. Father Time is winning again.

He doesn't do the header anymore. Notice that?

 

[True Blue]

We deserved better this game... Just couldn't finish a ton of chances.

Not really. The team played poorly and had absolutely no battle. The mix of the team will need to be addressed. But that is a longer project.

 

[will1066]

Not really. The team played poorly and had absolutely no battle. The mix of the team will need to be addressed. But that is a longer project.

Uncle Larry, is it you?

 

[sbjnyc]

1. Never felt like the Rangers were in it.

2. Glass seats are not for viewing, but holy crap there's zero time and space out there.

3. The NHL memorializes every goal and win with the relevant puck, hockey tape, and a sharpie. I asked the guy in the box why. "I don't know, I'm just doing as told."

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[Filthy Dangles]

Brutal.

Lazy back check on his man who scored an easy tap in for the second Vegas goal.

Follows that up with an unforced give away at the offensive blue line gifting Vegas a breakaway and their third goal. This play was almost worse to me. You're the 4th line center, get the puck deep.

He made a nice play on the entry, little self indirect pass, that I like seeing but yeah that was a tough decision on the pass.

As for the 2nd goal, it was a total team breakdown but I'm having a hard time faulting a forward for not picking up the guy driving to the net shorthanded. To me that's more on Lindgren and Smith not handling that.

 

[True Blue]

Uncle Larry, is it you?

No. That's Rangerboy

 

[Machinehead]

Uncle Larry, is it you?

Larry was rambling on about how the team just doesn't compete hard enough this morning.

We suck, Larry. Look at a f***ing stat for the first time in your life. Jesus f***ing Christ. I'm fully on board with the rebuild and the time it will take but when people can't see the forest for the trees is when I get angry.

And it's not just Larry's boomer ramblings. The "complete level" dogma is at every level of this organization. That's where he gets it from.

Let's f***ing defend like an NHL f***ing team and then we'll go from there on the compete level.

 

[Machinehead]

What really gets me is that their "compete level" darling Brett Howden is the worst offender in regards to just about everything this team sucks at.

But somehow everyone being him would make the problems go away.