Post-Game Talk: #22: FLYERS 5 at Hurricanes 3, Thursday, Nov. 21, 2019, 7:00 pm ET

[flyerslducks]

Braun was good in the 3rd period *ducks*

AV seems to be the type of coach that increases ice time for who he thinks is "going" that night and decreases it for those not having a great night. I'm fine with that because by the end of the season, the cream should rise to the top when looking at the big picture.

i like that too especially since he does bench everyone, vets included.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

omg that makes me so frustrated hahaha. Love that we won but if he continues this type of deployment...NISKANEN even saw 2 minutes less for crying out loud.

Niskanen had heavy PK usage & also plays the PP. That’s why.

 

[Striiker]

its weird. I love the way he handles our rookie forwards. He is not sheltering them at all. From all the talk about AV not playing rookies and hak never playing them...this is a nice change of pace. They are still getting ice time and are playing on the pp. I like that.

But ghost getting 10 minues, myers 13..cmon. I know we had 7 d but 5 minutes from braun and 3-4 from provy could've easily been toward the twin towers+ghost. Ghost is definitely in the dog house now but we will all blame him for not putting up points when he is playing 4th line minutes

Yup, he's being f***ed over for absolutely no reason. No two ways about it.

The coaches are actively hurting the team, which is what sucks. It's not about Ghost, it's about making the team the best that it can be.... this is the opposite of that.

 

[flyerslducks]

Niskanen had heavy PK usage & also plays the PP. That’s why.

which im fine with...but give those minutes to sanheim, myers, ghost. Not braun. I would also probably take him off the pp and have a forward on it (hayes or farabee) so that he can just focus on EV and PK. We didn't bring him in to play the pp. While it is nice that he can play on it, its best to save his legs for areas of the game where he can have a bigger effect than our other dmen.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

which im fine with...but give those minutes to sanheim, myers, ghost. Not braun. I would also probably take him off the pp and have a forward on it (hayes or farabee) so that he can just focus on EV and PK. We didn't bring him in to play the pp. While it is nice that he can play on it, its best to save his legs for areas of the game where he can have a bigger effect than our other dmen.

Braun was playing better than those guys last night so he got more time. For the season, Braun is 5th on D in 5 on 5 TOI/GP.

 

[BritainStix]

Thanks Boxscore, I mean BrokenStix.

Is this a joke? I think Brandon Manning was a worse defenseman than Randy Jones.

But yeah ok....

 

[Amorgus]

This entire forum's sin is not letting go in arguments.

OK Boom...I mean Moderator.

 

[kudymen]

Is this a joke? I think Brandon Manning was a worse defenseman than Randy Jones.

But yeah ok....

That was a little different box guy

 

[Amorgus]

Is this a joke? I think Brandon Manning was a worse defenseman than Randy Jones.

But yeah ok....

That's Boxcar, not Boxscore. I guess I should be weary of anyone with Box in their name.

 

[Rebels57]

AV deserves a lot of credit for not just burying him at the bottom of the lineup. He put him in a position to success and has used him on the PP and PK as well. That's some good shit right there. Hak disapproves.

 

[BritainStix]

Oh my bad. Who the hell is Boxscore?

 

[flyerslducks]

Braun was playing better than those guys last night so he got more time. For the season, Braun is 5th on D in 5 on 5 TOI/GP.

ya im just hoping its not more than a one game thing. Because he has played braun more than ghost in the past few games. Idk the numbers of him EV wise against the other defenders on the team tho. would be interesting to see the last 5-7 games

 

[Striiker]

ya im just hoping its not more than a one game thing. Because he has played braun more than ghost in the past few games. Idk the numbers of him EV wise against the other defenders on the team tho. would be interesting to see the last 5-7 games

2 games

5 games

7 games

Then consider the PP situation and his 5v5 linemates and the reason he's not scoring is blindly clear.

 

[deadhead]

With 7 d, provorov still manages 27 minutes in that game. I don't really have an issue with him playing that much, HOWEVER, when myers only plays 13, sanheim 17, GHOST HAD 10 MINUTES, AND BRAUN THE 3RD MOST ICE TIME AMONG DMEN....then we have an issue. What the hell is AV seeing in braun that we aren't? He is a smidge better than hagg and he is playing more than ghost, myers, and sanheim in a close game. People are always on ghost but how can he be effective playing 10 minutes and playing on the 2nd pp.

CF 53.33%, xGF 53.54%, HDCF 52.33%
CFrel +3.30, xGFrel -0.31%, HDCFrel +4.74%

Advanced metrics suggest he's a heckuva 3rd pair defenseman.
He's below average offensively, but excellent defensively.

Compare to Ghost
CF 51.24%, xGF 44.36%, HDCF 43.70%
CFrel -0.80, xGFrel -0.27%, HDCFrel -7.57%

 

[Mike1167]

Frost, Frost baby...

 

[tucson83]

2 games

5 games

7 games

Then consider the PP situation and his 5v5 linemates and the reason he's not scoring is blindly clear.

when everyone is telling that ghost the reason for the flyers struggles:

 

[Foggy14]

If Hagg made the play Sanheim made on the first goal the GDT would’ve been 20 pages longer.

I don't know, GB.

I've defended Hägg a couple of times and I'm doing fine ...

 

[Mike1167]

CF 53.33%, xGF 53.54%, HDCF 52.33%
CFrel +3.30, xGFrel -0.31%, HDCFrel +4.74%

Advanced metrics suggest he's a heckuva 3rd pair defenseman.
He's below average offensively, but excellent defensively.

Compare to Ghost
CF 51.24%, xGF 44.36%, HDCF 43.70%
CFrel -0.80, xGFrel -0.27%, HDCFrel -7.57%

Why is Hagg even on the ice?

 

[Flyerfan4life]

I don't know, GB.

I've defended Hägg a couple of times and I'm doing fine ...

ok what is that from ?


i need to watch it

 

[Foggy14]

ok what is that from ?


i need to watch it

 

[Flyerfan4life]

ahhh thx...

 

[flyerslducks]

2 games

5 games

7 games

Then consider the PP situation and his 5v5 linemates and the reason he's not scoring is blindly clear.

but braun is way better defensively lol

 

[Striiker]

but braun is way better defensively lol

I wish.

If the stereotypes we’re true, that offensive skill = bad defensively and zero offensive skill = good defensively, then he’d be elite, but unfortunately little roadkill Ghost is the better D player on that pair too. Some won’t admit that though.

 

[Striiker]

Oh? And what am I suggesting Ghost is?

I'm excited to hear what my words are being magically transformed to in peoples heads, because 99% of the time responses to my posts include complete fabrications that I never said.

I'd bet anything I own on these being things I never actually said.

No response a full day later.

Didn’t think so.

How about we try being honest from now on.

 

[kudymen]

No response a full day later.

Didn’t think so.

How about we try being honest from now on.

I see you are "shouting and calling people names", the vehemence and frequency there uh oh....