Boston Bruins 22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions. VIII

[bruinmann77]

your going to get a depth d man and Forward to move this team into the deep playoff run

 

[UncleRico]

what does Bergeron's card look like? or McAvoy? are those also wrong?

What kind of logic is this?

I said I wouldn’t put much stock into an algorithm that has Mike Reilly as a high end 2nd line defender.

Yes bergys card and McAvoys card looks good and no those aren’t wrong. So are you implying that because bergy and McAvoys cards look right then his algorithm is good?

Hell I can come up with a player cards where every single player in the league is a high end top line forward/defender. With your logic since it adds up for bergy and Mcavoy then some lesser player like forbort who I also have as a top line defender on his card must be true because bergys and McAvoys cards are good!

I would hope anyone’s algorithm would be able to identify bergy and McAvoy as a top player. Hell a 4 year old can do that I don’t need it for that. But when players who aren’t even in the NHL are getting graded out as high 2nd line players. There is a major issue with the weights or algorithms he has set.

 

[bruinmann77]

I would agree the forward is the bigger need as well as that depth defenseman

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

What kind of logic is this?

I said I wouldn’t put much stock into an algorithm that has Mike Reilly as a high end 2nd line defender.

Yes bergys card and McAvoys card looks good and no those aren’t wrong. So are you implying that because bergy and McAvoys cards look right then his algorithm is good?

Hell I can come up with a player cards where every single player in the league is a high end top line forward/defender. With your logic since it adds up for bergy and Mcavoy then some lesser player like forbort who I also have as a top line defender on his card must be true because bergys and McAvoys cards are good!

actually I think the problem is mainly that you have no idea what anything on those cards means or how they are generated but I was trying to be polite

 

[bruinmann77]

the question will their number one pick come into play?

 

[Bodit9]

Apparently Gavrikov isn't interested in talking extension . If that's the case and is true, Sweeney probably would be really cautious with that

Donny ain't paying that for an extended Gavrikov, let alone a rental. Guess it'll be Chychrun or Schenn.

 

[UncleRico]

actually I think the problem is mainly that you have no idea what anything on those cards means or how they are generated but I was trying to be polite

And anyone above the age of four can tell you that bergy and McAvoy are good. It shouldn’t be hard to fit those guys into a model to determine success/skill on the ice.

However when the model has Mike Reilly as a high end 2nd line D and the guy can’t even crack an NHL roster. Then there is absolutely something wrong with the model.

 

[bruinmann77]

after the first two games so far think the Bruins need to get scoring not Defense

 

[UncleRico]

after the first two games so far think the Bruins need to get scoring not Defense

They should be able to get a solid 2nd line forward once they start showing teams Mike Reilly’s JFresh card that says he’s a very good 2nd pairing defender getting paid $3m a year.

 

[Blowfish]

Meier me.

 

[Blowfish]

Barbashev with a goal and two helpers tonight! Hit everything that moved!

 

[Coach Parker]

Zacha! He is on fire.

 

[dugg133]

Zacha’s extension looks better and better every game

 

[AM Bruin]

Barbashev with a goal and two helpers tonight! Hit everything that moved!

That’s the guy I want. Won’t have to empty the cupboards for him and he rounds out our forward group.
Imagine rolling the top 2 lines then sending out the meat grinders on lines 3 and 4…

 

[mar2kbos]

Still on the fence on where they should upgrade. PP is putrid but it wasn’t before, forwards struggling to score but they were scoring earlier. Tough one. Usually there aren’t as many PPs in the playoffs, but you also want the team you play to be absolutely petrified of the PP which changes how they play against you 5 on 5. Gonna be an interesting deadline

 

[Coach Parker]

Agreed.

He wants to test free agency and his agent has been given permission to talk extension with teams and still no trade. Makes you wonder what he's asking for and who would actually pay that amount to then have to sign him to 6+ million?

 

[chizzler]

I agree. But is upgrading Forbort worth a 1st+ for a rental?

Upgrading your best PK guy? Not sure about that. Forbort not going anywhere.

 

[The don godfather]

Just tweak nothing major needed unless its chychrun. Gotta get him. I'm on board.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Too bad CBJ and Gavrikov got greedy. Barbashev and depth d is ok. If the depth d is not Schenn!

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Grab Schenn for cheap for the inevitable Carlo injury (that would happen over 4 rounds).

Pay up through the nose to get either Chychrun (a dream in this system to run the 2nd pairing w Carlo) or Meier to add 220pds of speed/muscle/skill to Marshy and 37.

The road to the Cup goes through Tampa and their large, box-out D. Meier is a great fit for that from below the top of the circle BUT Chychrun gives you the opportunity to attack from above it, with his elite shot. Either one is a great add but a depth guy doesn't move the needle much.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Donny ain't paying that for an extended Gavrikov, let alone a rental. Guess it'll be Chychrun or Schenn.

So he is aiming for the top and the bottom of the barrel..

Like if you think you team can you an offensive minded top 4 defenseman to really push you over the top. I just don't see how you instead fall back to a slow #7 defenseman.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Grab Schenn for cheap for the inevitable Carlo injury (that would happen over 4 rounds).

Pay up through the nose to get either Chychrun (a dream in this system to run the 2nd pairing w Carlo) or Meier to add 220pds of speed/muscle/skill to Marshy and 37.

The road to the Cup goes through Tampa and their large, box-out D. Meier is a great fit for that from below the top of the circle BUT Chychrun gives you the opportunity to attack from above it, with his elite shot. Either one is a great add but a depth guy doesn't move the needle much.

I like the RW with DeBrusk and Pastrnak. Upgrading the left side D behind Lindholm is slightly up the priorities list imo

 

[MrKabukiman]

Adding depth at D would be great, but some of the asking prices for rentals is crazy (if the main boards are to be believed).

 

[KrejciWinger]

Did some fiddling on CapFriendly... Bruins can be compliant next season with Pastrnak at $11mil and Chychrun (or other addition) at $4.6 mil with three key factors:

1 - One of Forbort/Reilly gone

2 - 3rd line RW being cheap, whether it's Lysell or Foligno or other.

3 - I know he's a fan favorite, but keeping Bussi instead of Swayman would save $3mil and you'd get assets back.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Did some fiddling on CapFriendly... Bruins can be compliant next season with Pastrnak at $11mil and Chychrun (or other addition) at $4.6 mil with three key factors:

1 - One of Forbort/Reilly gone

2 - 3rd line RW being cheap, whether it's Lysell or Foligno or other.

3 - I know he's a fan favorite, but keeping Bussi instead of Swayman would save $3mil and you'd get assets back.

There are numerous ways to get to cap compliance next year with Pasta signed, and adding another player like Chychrun or others.

It is unlikely they would decided to go to an untested backup goalie. And well you get assets back for Swayman, it's probably less than he is worth (nhl never values goalies in trade deals). It also potentially is a move you regret for a decade or more . Could have been easy to move Rask after the 2011 season to save money.