Boston Bruins 22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions. IX

[Flannelman]

I thought Bruins Hockey Now was deemed spam/equivalent to Eklund? Is there justification for them as a “source” compared to any ol fan blog?

 

[NeelyDan]

ol' jimmy thin skins at it again

 

[The don godfather]

Lysell lohrei and a 1st round pick would seal the deal but it's too rich. If it did happen I would accept it due to bergy dk cup run plus chychrun only 24 and with McAvoy for the next decade is just unreal.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Do we still think No Fear Greer is a playoff-caliber contributor to this squad?

I think possibly but same time: I would rather he’s in a 13th forward role. Maybe he gets in a game and we find out he’s playoff-caliber.

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

Do we still think No Fear Greer is a playoff-caliber contributor to this squad?

Greer is slowly growing on me . By now I think he realizes the offence just isn’t going to come regularly. I think he is working hard and would like him to stay in the bottom 6 .

 

[Bridges31]

I thought Bruins Hockey Now was deemed spam/equivalent to Eklund? Is there justification for them as a “source” compared to any ol fan blog?

Still not a bad source imo since Murph is quoting Andy Strickland who is a blues insider. Pretty credible rumor.

 

[SPV]

Maybe something like Smith, Lohrei, and our 2nd in 2025 for Kane at 50% and Jack Johnson.
Too much, not enough? I don’t know, I’ve only ever made video game trades.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I thought Bruins Hockey Now was deemed spam/equivalent to Eklund? Is there justification for them as a “source” compared to any ol fan blog?

That’s what I consider them. They’re hacks and their rumors are null and void. I have yet to be proven wrong by them. This is Slaintés 15-16th failed project.

I was here personally been here for the clown recreating an account to cry like a bitch and badmouth @Gee Wally.

Complete clowns — Haggerty sucks too.

 

[KrugAvoy]

To me Greer seems like the Kuraly type for goals. Doesn't score a ton but the goals he does get will be clutch

 

[LouJersey]

Lysell lohrei and a 1st round pick would seal the deal but it's too rich. If it did happen I would accept it due to bergy dk cup run plus chychrun only 24 and with McAvoy for the next decade is just unreal.

Not even close to being too rich for a guy of Chychrun's caliber for three play-off runs minimum.

I understand Lysell and Lohrei are the top Bruins prospects, but some teams may have 4-5 guys better than them. The first this year and next year will prob be 25 or worse.

 

[BlackFrancis]

Not even close to being too rich for a guy of Chychrun's caliber for three play-off runs minimum.

I understand Lysell and Lohrei are the top Bruins prospects, but some teams may have 4-5 guys better than them. The first this year and next year will prob be 25 or worse.

While true, a lot of the competition for the top deadline prizes are teams like Pittsburgh and Tampa, whose top prospect would be a potted peace lily if you gave them one for Valentine's.

Makes LA dangerous, if Blake has the balls.

 

[Drift]

Barbashev is an interesting one. He is a physical player that can grind down the other teams defense and his best year was when Monty was in STL. So clearly some history and understanding on his play style there.

 

[McGarnagle]

I'm willing to throw away 2025 through 2029 and hasten the impending rebuild if it puts us over the top to win the Stanley Cup this year.

But they better win that damn cup if they do it.

 

[wintersej]

Potential spots for upgrades:

Forwards:

Frederic: I have turned the corner on him. But, upgrading on Frederic on the 3rd line (while keeping him!) also means you are improving Hall's impact as a player and upgrading on Greer by having Frederic take his spot. It's the most impactful upgrade you can make to the forward grouping.

Greer: Despite logo kisses, he is a replacement level player.

Nosek: The injuries are concerning. This is basically a Toews plug. Another left shot guy who can be put in defensive situations and take face-offs, but has a little more pop.

Comments: Adding someone like Barbashev upgrades the 3rd line and the 4th line (by moving Frederic down). He also already has familiarity with Monty and played his, by far, best season working with him (albeit while shooting over 23%).

Defense:

Forbort: I appreciate what he does on the PK, but we saw how much Carolina caved him in last season. Against some teams, especially Carolina and Toronto with their speed, he is a big weak link that can be exploited. If you can make him the 7th D or be able to relegate him to a 10-12 minute at 5 on 5 role (versus his current 15 mins of 5 on 5 time) because you have upgraded the top 4, that is ideal.

Gryz: Gryz and Forbort go hand in hand. You would love to have someone with McAvoy that could handle 25 minutes. No matter if you are team Gryz or not, he has never shown he can handle a big minute workload and it means you are playing Forbort at 5 on 5 more than you want. You can either upgrade on Gryz and play the top 4 more (while letting Gryz and Forbort, if both are still around, fight it out on the bottom pairing), or you can upgrade on Forbort directly and leave that top 4 mostly as is.

Backup RD: They are just paper thin after McAvoy, Carlo and Clifton

McAvoy's spot on the PP: Again, a Chychrun plug. The lack of shot threat on the PP is what prevents it from being elite. That shot threat at 5 on 5 would be nice, too, especially since Chychrun seems to like being the 5th man to attack. Let McAvoy run wild as the 4th man on the attack... but you better watch out for that trailer...

Comments: Chychrun helps the PP and helps you play McAvoy more at 5 on 5. It allows you to, for at least one season, have matchups dictate whom over Gryz, Forbort and Clifton is in the lineup. And Gryz ability to play RD makes you feel safer about someone going down on the right side. Gavrikov just seems like a straight Forbort upgrade. Perhaps one that can play some shifts with McAvoy, but not super exciting.


Do we agree on all that? Anything missing?

I would do 1st, Lysell, ???, Reilly for Chychrun and Lorhei + Smith for Barbashev (only if the first deal goes thru) in a heart beat.

 

[goldnblack]

Damn I didn't realize that the Kings hockey ops were Rob Blake, Glenn Murray, Luc Robitaille, and Nelson Emerson. Pretty cool. So many ex players.

 

[GordonHowe]

Do we still think No Fear Greer is a playoff-caliber contributor to this squad?

I don't know.

It seems to me he's been in and out of the lineup and not terribly noticeable. Of course I like him, but I don't know the answer to your question...

 

[The don godfather]

Not even close to being too rich for a guy of Chychrun's caliber for three play-off runs minimum.

I understand Lysell and Lohrei are the top Bruins prospects, but some teams may have 4-5 guys better than them. The first this year and next year will prob be 25 or worse.

I'm in . I usually hate trades like this but chychrun is the real deal and has a special skillset. Let's go Donny!

 

[DKH]

I’m not buying the Chychrun-Boston stuff

Fake News

 

[Mad Dr Pepper]

Chychrun? Chychrun?

WHERE IS CHYCHRUN!?!?

 

[GordonHowe]

Oh my. Would be a good addition for the playoffs assuming the Bs wouldn't have to give up much to get him. Bit of a prick who likes to hit. Thing is, he actually has some skill and is a pain in the ass to play against. Bs could definitely use someone like him in the bottom 6 come playoff time.

As a rule I'm not a "rental" guy, and that's precisely what Barbashev is. If it's a meh draft selection and a mid level prospect, fine. He's in the sweet spot at age 27, has produced, and as you note, a bit of a prick. Which, of course, suits me fine.

If it works out it's possible the B's could sign him to (relatively) long term deal when he hits ufa that doesn't break the bank. Sweeney and Oscar Goldman are good at that.

 

[Drift]

Feels like we might end up with something like Barbashev and Soucy/Schenn lol

 

[DKH]

Potential spots for upgrades:

Forwards:

Frederic: I have turned the corner on him. But, upgrading on Frederic on the 3rd line (while keeping him!) also means you are improving Hall's impact as a player and upgrading on Greer by having Frederic take his spot. It's the most impactful upgrade you can make to the forward grouping.

Greer: Despite logo kisses, he is a replacement level player.

Nosek: The injuries are concerning. This is basically a Toews plug. Another left shot guy who can be put in defensive situations and take face-offs, but has a little more pop.

Comments: Adding someone like Barbashev upgrades the 3rd line and the 4th line (by moving Frederic down). He also already has familiarity with Monty and played his, by far, best season working with him (albeit while shooting over 23%).

Defense:

Forbort: I appreciate what he does on the PK, but we saw how much Carolina caved him in last season. Against some teams, especially Carolina and Toronto with their speed, he is a big weak link that can be exploited. If you can make him the 7th D or be able to relegate him to a 10-12 minute at 5 on 5 role (versus his current 15 mins of 5 on 5 time) because you have upgraded the top 4, that is ideal.

Gryz: Gryz and Forbort go hand in hand. You would love to have someone with McAvoy that could handle 25 minutes. No matter if you are team Gryz or not, he has never shown he can handle a big minute workload and it means you are playing Forbort at 5 on 5 more than you want. You can either upgrade on Gryz and play the top 4 more (while letting Gryz and Forbort, if both are still around, fight it out on the bottom pairing), or you can upgrade on Forbort directly and leave that top 4 mostly as is.

Backup RD: They are just paper thin after McAvoy, Carlo and Clifton

McAvoy's spot on the PP: Again, a Chychrun plug. The lack of shot threat on the PP is what prevents it from being elite. That shot threat at 5 on 5 would be nice, too, especially since Chychrun seems to like being the 5th man to attack. Let McAvoy run wild as the 4th man on the attack... but you better watch out for that trailer...

Comments: Chychrun helps the PP and helps you play McAvoy more at 5 on 5. It allows you to, for at least one season, have matchups dictate whom over Gryz, Forbort and Clifton is in the lineup. And Gryz ability to play RD makes you feel safer about someone going down on the right side. Gavrikov just seems like a straight Forbort upgrade. Perhaps one that can play some shifts with McAvoy, but not super exciting.


Do we agree on all that? Anything missing?

I would do 1st, Lysell, ???, Reilly for Chychrun and Lorhei + Smith for Barbashev (only if the first deal goes thru) in a heart beat.

You’re trading Lohrei for a rental in Barbashev ?

 

[wintersej]

You’re trading Lohrei for a rental in Barbashev ?

Well they have no second to offer until 2045 or whatever and Lorhei doesn't really have a place with Lindholm and Chychrun so . If you can do it cheaper and ease Lorhei in on the bottom pairing all the better.

 

[Fenian24]

Feels like we might end up with something like Barbashev and Soucy/Schenn lol

That ain't bad. Soucy is a good physical d and Barbashev is a very good 3W. If you add Schenn for more depth and lose Zboril that becomes a good veteran defense that can mix and match depending on opponent. Barbashev is a jerk who hits, aggravates and can score. He also can move up and down in the lineup.

Do i want Meier or Chychrun over any of those players, of course but Barbashev, Soucy and Schenn is a really good deadline day.

 

[Number8]

I have no idea if this sort of thing comes into play, but will the League be forced to step in (can they step in?) on the Chychrun situation?

He's sat for two already, and appears to be slated to sit again tonight.

If I were a fellow cellar dweller in the Bedard hunt I'd start to raise a stink if this goes on too much longer.

Again, not sure if it could happen but I'm sure several GM's are thinking that Az/Armstrong should trade or get off the pot.