21-22 Expected Roster

[ploppsdman]

If you want to see how bad Dougie Hamilton can be, go watch Game 4 against Nashville. Whoever signs him long term is absolutely screwed.

 

[Rick C137]

Stan probably could've taken MAF off Vegas hands last summer with additional assets coming back but he didnt do it...Now he wants to hit the market again for a starter, please don't pay up with so many other holes on the team...

What does MAF have to do with anything? Literally every team in the nhl declined MAF with the sweetener Vegas was offering. MAF doesn’t fit our timeline at all either. Why even bring him up? We shouldn’t be in the market for a 35+ year old goalie with term.

I do agree that it’s way too early to go big game hunting for a goalie though.

 

[RayP]

What does MAF have to do with anything? Literally every team in the nhl declined MAF with the sweetener Vegas was offering. MAF doesn’t fit our timeline at all either. Why even bring him up? We shouldn’t be in the market for a 35+ year old goalie with term.

I do agree that it’s way too early to go big game hunting for a goalie though.

I thought MAF told Vegas he wasn’t going to waive?

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Call me crazy but I think the Hawks might be a top pairing and a starting goalie away from being a contender. They need 3 players but top D are hard to get.

Like if the Hawks had Jones and Werenski I think they'd be very good.

 

[RayP]

Call me crazy but I think the Hawks might be a top pairing and a starting goalie away from being a contender. They need 3 players but top D are hard to get.

Like if the Hawks had Jones and Werenski I think they'd be very good.

That’s it?

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

That’s it?

Yeah I think they're fine at forward. It's the D and goaltending that's the huge issue, and you can't really evaluate the goalies properly until they have decent play in front of them.
If you want to nitpick the forwards on the Hawks it's more about defensive play than anything else. I think they have plenty of talent to score, they just get hemmed in their own end so much.

 

[kmwtrucks]

If you want to see how bad Dougie Hamilton can be, go watch Game 4 against Nashville. Whoever signs him long term is absolutely screwed.

in the 2 OT losses he was a 0 +- with 14 shots on goals. there is a price that is over what I would spend but outside of winning the Lottery I just dont know how we get a top pairing guy i n the next 2-3 years. I just dont think even of our young guys are difference makers at either end. they can be solid.

 

[Giovi]

What does MAF have to do with anything? Literally every team in the nhl declined MAF with the sweetener Vegas was offering. MAF doesn’t fit our timeline at all either. Why even bring him up? We shouldn’t be in the market for a 35+ year old goalie with term.

I do agree that it’s way too early to go big game hunting for a goalie though.

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MAF never waived, never wanted to be traded, and certainly there was never a situation where "Literally every team in the nhl declined MAF with the sweetener Vegas was offering."

 

[Malagahawks]

Stan should be monitoring the playoffs to ser which teams lose out and fail expectations in a spectacular way.
Some Team might want to retool and maybe we can take advantage of the situation.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Stan should be monitoring the playoffs to ser which teams lose out and fail expectations in a spectacular way.
Some Team might want to retool and maybe we can take advantage of the situation.

What do we have to offer in that scenario?

We certainly cant afford to take on a bunch of longterm bad deals and those are what teams will be looking to offload if they want to "Retool" not short term deals

Wirtz isn't going to be thrilled to take on a bunch of big $ deals nor will he be happy to watch fans disappear from UC which is what will happen if Hawks suck for years to come

As far as our available assets what is of value to teams contending? Murphy is a bottom pairing defender on any team looking to contend for example

Hawks are actually not in any ideal situation to take advantage of anyone

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

And frankly if Hawks have cap room I would rather add pieces via trade/fa to get Hawks to being a playoff team again and on path of contending rather then being dumping ground for other teams crap

 

[RayP]

Stan should be monitoring the playoffs to ser which teams lose out and fail expectations in a spectacular way.
Some Team might want to retool and maybe we can take advantage of the situation.

Who would you even trade though?

Dach, Cat, Kane, Toews, Keith, and Boqvist aren’t going anywhere.

No one is going to want Z for a playoff run.

Maybe there is a little interest in Murphy.

Suter and Kubalik are the only two that would make sense, but I’d rather just keep them.

 

[kmwtrucks]

we need lankien to move from .910 to a ,918 goaile. we need dach, Boquist, borgstrom Nylander, reichel gaudette Kalynuk, (ZAD) to be as good or better next year then people expect by a small margin and we need 1 high end D man and I think if we are a good playoff team. when I say that need Dach 20 and 30, and all the other 5 in the 25-35 pt range for the season. ZAD just get the puck out faster and cleaner. I think we know what we are going to get from hagel, Suter, kub, Cat, kane, kurashev kampf. Murph, stillman connelly, carp, we need to move on from dehaan and strome. maybe a package deal to Seattle.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

we need lankien to move from .910 to a ,918 goaile. we need dach, Boquist, borgstrom Nylander, reichel gaudette Kalynuk, (ZAD) to be as good or better next year then people expect by a small margin and we need 1 high end D man and I think if we are a good playoff team. when I say that need Dach 20 and 30, and all the other 5 in the 25-35 pt range for the season. ZAD just get the puck out faster and cleaner. I think we know what we are going to get from hagel, Suter, kub, Cat, kane, kurashev kampf. Murph, stillman connelly, carp, we need to move on from dehaan and strome. maybe a package deal to Seattle.

Why would Seattle want that?

And if they want Strome he is likely available in expansion draft

 

[bwana63]

Who would you even trade though?

Dach, Cat, Kane, Toews, Keith, and Boqvist aren’t going anywhere.

No one is going to want Z for a playoff run.

Maybe there is a little interest in Murphy.

Suter and Kubalik are the only two that would make sense, but I’d rather just keep them.

Yes, but the Hawks have a lot of LTIR cap space, which is flippin' gold right now.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

If Hawks were to "Help Out" a team the Oilers should be target and I have idea

To
G Mikko Koskinen (1 more year at 4.5M)
RW Matej Blumel (2019 4th round pick)

To
G Malcom Subban

Blumel seems to be developing well in Czech Republic and as 20 yr old just made Czech WC roster. Hawks endure one year of Koskinen and hope he can bounce back to being effective NHL goalie as Lankinen carries load with Koskinen as #2

Subban is moved out just to make room for Koskinen on NHL roster

 

[x Tame Impala]

If Hawks were to "Help Out" a team the Oilers should be target and I have idea

To
G Mikko Koskinen (1 more year at 4.5M)
RW Matej Blumel (2019 4th round pick)

To
G Malcom Subban

Blumel seems to be developing well in Czech Republic and as 20 yr old just made Czech WC roster. Hawks endure one year of Koskinen and hope he can bounce back to being effective NHL goalie as Lankinen carries load with Koskinen as #2

Subban is moved out just to make room for Koskinen on NHL roster

How about Strome for Koskinen?

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Oilers would only save 1.5M in cap and Strome is negative asset at this point

Why would Oilers do something like that?

Hole point in moving Koskinen is for them to open cap room to either go after top 9 W or potentially upgrade at RD

 

[RayP]

Any teams of GMs stand out to anyone that tend to take on reclamation projects like Strome? Can only hope to find some kind of sucker willing to.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Any teams of GMs stand out to anyone that tend to take on reclamation projects like Strome? Can only hope to find some kind of sucker willing to.

Columbus needs top 9 talent especially at C

Strome could be a good stopgap for them at no real risk (Given he is signed for only 1 more year)

 

[RayP]

Oilers would only save 1.5M in cap and Strome is negative asset at this point

Why would Oilers do something like that?

Hole point in moving Koskinen is for them to open cap room to either go after top 9 W or potentially upgrade at RD

Columbus needs top 9 talent especially at C

Strome could be a good stopgap for them at no real risk (Given he is signed for only 1 more year)

You just said he’s a negative asset. Now he’s a top 9 option?

 

[BK]

Who would you even trade though?

Dach, Cat, Kane, Toews, Keith, and Boqvist aren’t going anywhere.

No one is going to want Z for a playoff run.

Maybe there is a little interest in Murphy.

Suter and Kubalik are the only two that would make sense, but I’d rather just keep them.

Maybe there is interest in Murphy? This is a joke right. Murphy would have a lot of interest.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

You just said he’s a negative asset. Now he’s a top 9 option?

For Jackets who have cap room and plenty of top 9 openings especially at C he may be neutral asset

To Oilers he is negative asset who does nothing to clear cap or solve issues they have for needs

 

[RayP]

Maybe there is interest in Murphy? This is a joke right. Murphy would have a lot of interest.

To me Murphy seems like he would be a backup plan for a team who didn’t get their main target via UFA so they go after Murphy as a backup plan. Not exactly a guy who is going to have a huge bidding war to acquire.


But who knows, flat cap plus Seattle will change everything. Someone might get desperate.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

He is more a plan C/D of teams looking for top 4 RHD

His performance this year was nothing great and was frankly his usual up and down self

Hawks made mistake not trading him last offseason