Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk II

[BradMarchandismydad]

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Analytics actually really like Gudas defensively, what are you talking about?

His sitting on opposition per 60 is literally unparalleled

The model highly favors players who squish forwards with their gluteus

 

[ON3M4N]

The fact that we made it to a 2nd off-season thread before a debate on analytics broke out is impressive. Go us!

 

[goalieman40]

I think Lucic would bring a lot for the culture and mentality the team has missed. It would be a nice swan song for a last ride with the Bruins.

 

[UncleRico]

If Bertuzzi won't sign, and the numbers still don't work, I think we should flip Hall for picks, flip DeBrusk to his natural wing, and acquire Garland for peanuts.

I'm going to keep banging that drum, he's one of the most effective players at 5v5, great 2 way play, plays a pests game, and is an absolute gamer. And he's FREE.

Sub 5 million dollar contract too, so he's affordable

Marchand - Bergeron - Garland
DeBrusk - Zacha - Pasta

I like Garland a lot, a few days ago I made a capfriendly line up I posted in here and was debating between bertuzzi and garland(moving Debrusk back to left wing in the process). But was having a hard time figuring out what assets would go the other way so I left him off in favor of signing bertuzzi as a FA.

I’d he’s available I wouldn’t mind the move at all. He would fit age wise to the pasta/McAvoy/Lindholm/swayman(or Ullmark) core

 

[NeelyDan]

Analytics can’t cover up gryz doing hair loss commercials

 

[Fenian24]

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Analytics actually really like Gudas defensively, what are you talking about?

More proof to sign him then

The fact that we made it to a 2nd off-season thread before a debate on analytics broke out is impressive. Go us!

Hope for mankind? World Peace? One off season thread without analytic talk

 

[Gee Wally]

Aaaaannnnddddd……..lets stay to thread topic. Thanks.

 

[McGarnagle]

Analytics can’t cover up gryz doing hair loss commercials

Leading the team in hair plugs for/60. Only ahead of Nick Foligno in hair above replacement level.

 

[LouJersey]

Gryz got boned these play-offs by Monty. That being said would have been nice if he tried to block the ot goal in game 7.

Deserved or undeserved the Bruins spent a ton of assets knocking him down the depth chart the past two deadlines because they feel he can't cut it when the play gets heavy. On the other hand, they somehow felt Forbort could which is mindboggling. The Orlov deal messed up a lot of the continuity

Best way to beat the forecheck would be having defensemen who could skate it out of the zone, or retrieve it quickly to pass it out of the zone, both things Gryz does very well. I still think they hold on to him

 

[GordonHowe]

In addition I move Hall and Forbort. 9 mil in space.

One way another, both will likely be gone. Forbort very well might be bought out.

 

[Dr Hook]

Leading the team in hair plugs for/60. Only ahead of Nick Foligno in hair above replacement level.

They don't ask you how you got the flow in your lettuce, just if you have it.

 

[GordonHowe]

Yes, they are. Quality of Competition stats exist, McAvoy gets the hardest deployment on the team. You can't hide guys next to him, putting Gryz next to him has never been about hiding Gryz.

Bang on.

They know each other, they play well together.

Orlov and Charlie did not seem to fit, even if the coaching staff didn't give them enough rope.

 

[Dr Quincy]

what do you think expected goals means exactly? i'm curious what your take is on why expected goals would differ from actual goals.

The argument (whether you agree with it or not) is that expected goals is a better predictor of future goals, than actual goals themselves. Since goals are a relatively rare event (as opposed to made baskets in a basketball game) any goal, is somewhat lucky/flukey. xG tries to say "this kind of shot from this kind of distance has this chance of being scored, and since there's a lot more of them in a game, than actual goals, it gives you a better shot at predicting future success."

You can buy the model or not, but there is logic to it, whether their particular math or weight of shots is accurate may be a different discussion.

 

[GordonHowe]

OEL really can’t be anything beyond 3rd pair or 7th d. First pair would be a disaster.

I’d like to sign him to a 1 year 1M deal for that specifically, though.

Don't want him.

8 million. 31. Worst season yet.

And soft as a baby's bottom.

No thank you.

 

[xStanleyCupsFor]

Some of you have never watched Gryz play and it shows…He’s not perfect by any means but some of you tragically cannot get past his height and style of play. I urge you to look at something like MoneyPuck.com.

Derek forbort had an on ice expected goals percentage of 29%.

That is horrible. Grzelcyk? 61.5% enough for the team lead.

Dont believe these numbers? Dont think MoneyPuck is accurate? I’ll raise you one and tell you I’ve spoken directly to members of the front office who told me that moneypuck is the best public model out there.

Furthermore, Grzelcyk is one of the best skaters in this league. Has a great defensive stick, and isnt being HIDDEN with McAvoy. How is it that time and time again they move Gryz away from Mac and they KEEP LOSING.

This is excellent news. I'm assuming other GMs know this, so we should get a decent return for him.

 

[ON3M4N]

I fully expect the Bruins to build a competitive team for the 100th season, but should things go off the rails, let remember that Bruins 2024 1st is top 10 protected

 

[GordonHowe]

In an ideal world I would love to sign Graves or Soucy to round out the top four but the money is just not going to be there.

I also take a look at how Tampa is running things and it’s pretty similar. Granted they didn’t make it past the 1st round they generally had Segachev and Hedman split with either Cernak and Perbix on the right side. What sticks out there?

They really only have three top four defenseman just like the B’s and hack it with the rest.

The difference is they actually won when they had McDonough but we couldn’t with Orlov so be ready for rookies and vet minimums it’s just the reality of it

I really like Adam Graves.

OEL is precisely what this team does not need. If you're going to tweak this club's defence, you trade Grizz and you replace with a big, physical and mean defender. If such a rare magical beast even exists anymore in this teenie-bopper league.

Keep Gryz, ship out Clifton and Forbort. And Zboril. I am heartily sick of the latter.

Give it up, Don. Jake was your only keeper.

We're coming up on ten years.

Let it go.

 

[GordonHowe]

Some of you have never watched Gryz play and it shows…He’s not perfect by any means but some of you tragically cannot get past his height and style of play. I urge you to look at something like MoneyPuck.com.

Derek forbort had an on ice expected goals percentage of 29%.

That is horrible. Grzelcyk? 61.5% enough for the team lead.

Dont believe these numbers? Dont think MoneyPuck is accurate? I’ll raise you one and tell you I’ve spoken directly to members of the front office who told me that moneypuck is the best public model out there.

Furthermore, Grzelcyk is one of the best skaters in this league. Has a great defensive stick, and isnt being HIDDEN with McAvoy. How is it that time and time again they move Gryz away from Mac and they KEEP LOSING.

I'm not especially a Gryz fan, but he has much more value, at his price, than many give him credit for.

The Bruins CAN bring in size and physical D. They can also keep Matt.

Yes, Virginia, it's possible. And doable.

Do it.

 

[GordonHowe]

Travis Yost ( TSN ) looks at the off-season for the Bruins ( and the Penguins too but you can just skip over that stuff ) :

www.tsn.ca/nhl/travis-yost-boston-bruins-pittsburgh-penguins-face-fascinating-off-seasons-1.1975441

It will be interesting to see what Dubas and Keith Jones do.

I'm rooting for both, even though I hate the Penguins.

I would hate to see Milan go to VAN or TO.

Wish he'd come back home.

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

It will be interesting to see what Dubas and Keith Jones do.

I'm rooting for both, even though I hate the Penguins.



I would hate to see Milan go to VAN or TO.

Wish he'd come back home.

Vancouver would be him 'going home' though.

 

[Mione134]

One last hurrah, Looch. Vet min. Come and wear the spoked B. Be on the 4th line. Protect, inspire, educate, and teach the young kids.

I need it.

 

[GordonHowe]

Vancouver would be him 'going home' though.

True. But can you picture Milan lucic in a Canucks uniform? You probably can, and I'll have to eat my words. I sure don't want him in Toronto. Not for any havoc he can cause us, but again, I just wish he'd come back to boston. Pipe dream.

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

True. But can you picture Milan lucic in a Canucks uniform? You probably can, and I'll have to eat my words. I sure don't want him in Toronto. Not for any havoc he can cause us, but again, I just wish you'd come back to boston. Pipe dream.

Not really. But I would be more grossed out seeing him in a Toronto costume.

 

[The don godfather]

Sign brassard 1 year 750 k for center depth .

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Sign brassard 1 year 750 k for center depth .

Like the swallows to Capistrano…