NFL: 2023 NFL season news & notes discussion thread

[Blackhawkswincup]

NFL planning to drop the hip drop tackle.

Not making it easy for the defense

WTF are defenders supposed to do at this point?

Game is becoming a f***ing joke

 

[StreetHawk]

WTF are defenders supposed to do at this point?

Game is becoming a f***ing joke

Would love for the nfl to show the technique that should be used on those tackles instead when you have a RB, TE trying to break free.
And do that in real speed.

 

[Unholy Diver]

WTF are defenders supposed to do at this point?

Game is becoming a f***ing joke

You can't grab a guy from behind and German suplex them

Maybe you can grab a guy from the front in a bearhug and give him a belly-to-belly suplex

 

[Troy McClure]

Would love for the nfl to show the technique that should be used on those tackles instead when you have a RB, TE trying to break free.
And do that in real speed.

Pretty easy. Go look at the decades prior when guys tackled without doing the hip drop. It's not a big deal. Wrap a guy up and tackle without dropping your weight on his feet.

This isn't any different than almost a decade ago when pass rushers figured out they could break collar bones by turning a QBs body to drive the shoulder into the turf and landing on them, so the league had to respond by taking that out of the game.

Or any different when guys (I'm looking at you, Roy Williams) started grabbing guys by the shoulder pads and pulling straight down to break legs. The league outlawed it.

 

[Elvis P]

The Overhang: Can Mike McDaniel scheme his way out of Dolphins' injury hell? Is Patrick Mahomes doomed because of Chiefs' drops?

Here's the Worry-O-Meter and how to rate the level of concern for the Super Bowl chances of Kansas City, Detroit, Jacksonville, Philadelphia and Miami.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Breakers]

What’s the reason for Saturday games?

Have they always done it this way around Mid December?

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

The rules already provide an answer to your question.

If you're on their 30 and fumble with the ball rolling forward to the 25 and going out, the ball is spotted back at the 30 where you fumbled it. Keep it the same for a ball rolling out of your opponent's end zone. Bingo, the rulebook got a bit simpler because a silly exception to the rule is deleted.

Didn’t think of it like that

 

[Blitzkrug]

What’s the reason for Saturday games?

Have they always done it this way around Mid December?

Yup. They legally cannot have games on saturday during the NCAA regular season so once championship saturday wraps up, they usually throw a few games in that slot.

They've been doing that for years now.

 

[StreetHawk]

Yup. They legally cannot have games on saturday during the NCAA regular season so once championship saturday wraps up, they usually throw a few games in that slot.

They've been doing that for years now.

Only do it for like 2 weeks in December. Only Sundays in the final 2 weeks. And then in the POs.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Only do it for like 2 weeks in December. Only Sundays in the final 2 weeks. And then in the POs.

Before the 18 week season they would usually do saturday and monday night games (just one) up until week 16. Week 17 was all sunday obviously for playoff picture purposes.

This year week 17 has a thursday and saturday game alongside the usual sunday slate with no MNF. week 18 is all saturday.

 

[GKJ]

Pretty easy. Go look at the decades prior when guys tackled without doing the hip drop. It's not a big deal. Wrap a guy up and tackle without dropping your weight on his feet.

This isn't any different than almost a decade ago when pass rushers figured out they could break collar bones by turning a QBs body to drive the shoulder into the turf and landing on them, so the league had to respond by taking that out of the game.

Or any different when guys (I'm looking at you, Roy Williams) started grabbing guys by the shoulder pads and pulling straight down to break legs. The league outlawed it.

Imagine going back to the olden times when you didn’t have a guy tackled unless he was pinned to the ground.

 

[Elvis P]

The Tennessee Titans waiving starting nose tackle Teart Tart, AP source says

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — The Tennessee Titans are waiving starting nose tackle Teair Tart, according to a person familiar with the decision. Tart did not practice all week and was listed as out for personal reasons. The person spoke to The Associated Press on Friday on condition of anonymity...

ca.sports.yahoo.com

 

[Elvis P]

The Panthers and Pats are the only teams eliminated from the playoffs.

 

[Unholy Diver]

Devito, or maybe his agent, already getting a bit full of themselves

Cold pizza: DeVito event canceled over QB's fee

Tommy DeVito and his agent apparently have run afoul of a New Jersey pizzeria, which said it canceled an event featuring the Giants quarterback because he doubled his appearance fee.

www.espn.com

 

[GKJ]

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

That is pretty pathetic given Browns long history

Even the Bears have had 4 WR's accomplish that

Marty Booker
Alshon Jeffery
Brandon Marshall
Allen Robinson

Also refresh my memory, why did the Cowboys dump Cooper? Seems like he would be ideal guy to have as #2 across from Lamb over these past 2 years and it wasn't like he didn't produce as a Cowboy

 

[GKJ]

That is pretty pathetic given Browns long history

Even the Bears have had 4 WR's accomplish that

Marty Booker
Alshon Jeffery
Brandon Marshall
Allen Robinson

Also refresh my memory, why did the Cowboys dump Cooper? Seems like he would be ideal guy to have as #2 across from Lamb over these past 2 years and it wasn't like he didn't produce as a Cowboy

He was a cap dump

 

[StreetHawk]

He was a cap dump

yeah, still a youngish WR because he was so young when he was drafted. Dallas bet on Galloday, who was coming off an ACL. Cap hit and money suppressed the market value.
Typically only QBs or guys who have a year left on rookie deal will garner 1st round compensation.

 

[TheAngryHank]

Devito, or maybe his agent, already getting a bit full of themselves

Cold pizza: DeVito event canceled over QB's fee

Tommy DeVito and his agent apparently have run afoul of a New Jersey pizzeria, which said it canceled an event featuring the Giants quarterback because he doubled his appearance fee.

www.espn.com

His time is more valuable...he is the starter..not just riding pine ,gotta get that bread.

 

[Unholy Diver]

His time is more valuable...he is the starter..not just riding pine ,gotta get that bread.

I'm sure the Pizzeria has Garlic knots

 

[PanthersPens62]

Giants QB Tommy DeVito makes good on NJ pizzeria appearance after flap over alleged doubling of $10K fee

DeVito reportedly showed up for free after the shop's owner said that he and his agent reneged on an agreed-upon appearance fee.

sports.yahoo.com

He seems like a really good, down to earth guy. The family/agent etc. need to get over themselves & stop acting like they are the 2nd coming of The Sopranos.

 

[Troy McClure]

He was a cap dump

It was specifically a cap dump to make room for a new deal to keep Randy Gregory, but he didn't like the way the Cowboys were structuring his offer and turned it down. The Cowboys then offered the same thing to Von Miller, but he also turned them down.

The Cowboys then panicked about giving away Cooper and not getting either pass rusher so they used a big chunk of the new cap space to pay Michael Gallup to be an expensive number two WR even though he was in the midst of recovering from an ACL tear.

It says a lot about how good their drafting has been to cover up some serious cap mistakes the past few seasons.

 

[StreetHawk]

It was specifically a cap dump to make room for a new deal to keep Randy Gregory, but he didn't like the way the Cowboys were structuring his offer and turned it down. The Cowboys then offered the same thing to Von Miller, but he also turned them down.

The Cowboys then panicked about giving away Cooper and not getting either pass rusher so they used a big chunk of the new cap space to pay Michael Gallup to be an expensive number two WR even though he was in the midst of recovering from an ACL tear.

It says a lot about how good their drafting has been to cover up some serious cap mistakes the past few seasons.

Zeke's agent set up a great deal for him. Making the follow year's base salary guaranteed in the first week of the prior year. Like 2022 base was guaranteed in March 2021, thus Dallas would have to eat the 2021 base salary to get rid of him and avoid the 2022 base being guaranteed.

Plus delaying on Dak cost them. They have to pay Parsons and Lamb is finishing his 4th year and going into the 5th year option next season. Have to find cap room for them while managing Dak's contract since it's currently a $59 mill cap charge and $62 mill in dead money if they were to move off him. He's due $34 mill in real money next season, but I would guess his agent would not just convert most of the $29 mill in base salary into a bonus, but will want new guaranteed money added onto the contract.

 

[Ratbath]

Devito, or maybe his agent, already getting a bit full of themselves

Cold pizza: DeVito event canceled over QB's fee

Tommy DeVito and his agent apparently have run afoul of a New Jersey pizzeria, which said it canceled an event featuring the Giants quarterback because he doubled his appearance fee.

www.espn.com

This is a very stupid story. Pizza place is just bitching that negotiations didn’t go how they wanted. Get your shit in writing or f*** off. Sucks that Devito felt he had to show up for nothing.

 

[StreetHawk]

This is a very stupid story. Pizza place is just bitching that negotiations didn’t go how they wanted. Get your shit in writing or f*** off. Sucks that Devito felt he had to show up for nothing.

$10K for a pizzeria is a lot of money. And I agree, get it in writing. But for DeVito, be a man of your word. If you say it's going to be $10K, do it for that amount. Do not go back and ask for him, just like the PIzzeria should not look to cut his fee in half at the last minute either.