Pre-Game Talk: 2023-2024 Habs Rookie Camp & Training Camp

[JianYang]

It looks like the goaltending might regress hard. Monty hasn't looked really good so far, and Allen has a history of playing very badly if he plays more than a game a week.

I'd really like to see Slaf either play second line in the NHL or first line in the AHL, but we'll see. It was a terrible year to have 1OA in that sense because there is pressure (fans, ego, agent, player) to play him in the NHL, and certainly not to let him go back to Europe. Slaf would have been better off getting picked 3rd or 4th, or 10th in a stronger draft.

I have no clue about Lindstrom yet. Norlinder has looked better and he did his time in the AHL. Barron looked good the end of last year but not so good this year. It's weird how consistently the habs expect guys to grab jobs in pre-season and how consistently those guys abjectly fail to do so. Norlinder would be an exception except I don't think he was expected to really be an option.

I'd be happy if the team picks fifth as long as Slaf, Guhle, Newhook, and Monahan are healthy and play lots of minutes. I suppose that implies that they wouldn't play too well unless the goaltending absolutely tanked which is possible.

The goaltending may well "regress" but I don't look to the preseason as any indicator of this.

The preseason is just about seeing young prospects in camp. If there are clearly open spots available on the big squad, that can get interesting too.... But aside from that, there's just not too much to look into.

I've seen far too many surprises in camp that fizzle out during the course of the season, and far too many poor showings in the preaseon that mean nothing when the regular season starts.

 

[26Mats]

Damn Ylonen isn't that scrawny kid anymore. The guy is pretty jacked and hasn't lost his speed.

He could become like Andrei Kostitsyn. AK was timid at first. But once he got used to the North American game, he became a beast on the forecheck. I look forward to seeing Ylonen on the forecheck when he's 27, 28, 29 - if he's still in the NHL then...

 

[Habs Icing]

Yeah, those 24 hrs are a real deterrent.

 

[26Mats]

Pinch me, I must be dreaming.

Oh look, there's Gallagher, Pearson, and Allen. I guess I'm not. Still super pumped to watch this team without those 4 taking away ice time from the youth.

 

[Michoulicious]

I still don't think that is enough to be cap compliant, or am I missing something?

 

[Runner77]

I'm guessing you're new to the Habs forum despite being a member since 2019.

It could also be that he has some kind of infatuation for that fake word, « depp ».

 

[Gustave]

Yeah, those 24 hrs are a real deterrent.

Can we just send down every player available to go through without waivers and comply??
Feels like we can.

 

[Frankenheimer]

See below (I had posted this in another thread):

My guess for the next couple of days.

Armia and Lindström clear waivers

To Laval (some are paper transactions):

RHP, Guhle, Barron, Norlinder, Harris, Heineman

That gives them a cap compliant roster of 13 forwards, 5 defenceman, 3 goalies ($20,417 under the Cap).

They then put Price on LTIR. Dvorak and Wideman go on IR.

They call RHP, Guhle, Harris, and Barron (I had Norlinder here originally) back to start the season.

This is not what happened. They just put Dvo on LTIR before cap compliancy. No need for all the paper transactions, just Arber. And Armia's full salary still on the books.

 

[CHfan1]

This is not what happened. They just put Dvo on LTIR before cap compliancy. No need for all the paper transactions, just Arber. And Armia's full salary still on the books.

Yeah I saw that. Interesting they went that route, but they had different options and it seems this must have been the best option to take for them.

 

[Agalloch]

So Armia in AHL tomorrow and Xhekaj re-call.

 

[ReHabs]

So Armia in AHL tomorrow and Xhekaj re-call.

I sincerely don’t believe they would demote Armia.

 

[Colezuki]

I sincerely don’t believe they would demote Armia.

There was a quote from Houle that basically said “i let players in Armia situation take a few days before I talk to them “ sounds like he’s been told he’s coming to me

 

[Scriptor]

St-Louis, apparently, is a fan of Armia, probably because he doesn't complain and is well-liked in the room.

 

[BLONG7]

I still don't think that is enough to be cap compliant, or am I missing something?

Check Capfriendly............shows how it got done....

 

[ReHabs]

There was a quote from Houle that basically said “i let players in Armia situation take a few days before I talk to them “ sounds like he’s been told he’s coming to me

Didn't see that, interesting development. Armia should've known it's coming.

St-Louis, apparently, is a fan of Armia, probably because he doesn't complain and is well-liked in the room.

I've read the same thing -- Armia is a hard worker in practice and a good soldier. It's a shame how it turned out for him here but the club didn't do wrong by him.

 

[G0bias]

You would rather play Armia over Gally in the line-up?? It is you who should gtfo my friend!

This gonna age so well

 

[26Mats]

I'd like to give our current top 6 Dmen consistent playing time to let them grow into their best selves as NHL Dmen.

And, I'd send Barron down to the AHL, until there is an injury, so he can play 20 minutes a night instead of sitting in the press box.

 

[Gustave]

I'd like to give our current top 6 Dmen consistent playing time to let them grow into their best selves as NHL Dmen.

And, I'd send Barron down to the AHL, until there is an injury, so he can play 20 minutes a night instead of sitting in the press box.

Ya Barron collecting dust in the Hot Dog box isn't what you want here. Bring up Lindstrom, send Justin down.

 

[EveryDay]

Ya Barron collecting dust in the Hot Dog box isn't what you want here. Bring up Lindstrom, send Justin down

Or sit Savard for one game and play Barron.

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

This gonna age so well

Why? Cause he scored 2 in Laval? Let me guess Armia is a stud now and St-Louis is an idiot for sending him to Laval?

 

[bcv]

This gonna age so well

Gallagher has a NMC, so as long as he’s not bought out, he’s on the 23 men roster.

 

[G0bias]

Why? Cause he scored 2 in Laval? Let me guess Armia is a stud now and St-Louis is an idiot for sending him to Laval?

Because if it wasn't clear enough Gallagher was cooked last year, his play right now, at his best possible physical form, leaves no doubt he's not an nhler anymore.

Don't care about Armia