2022 NHL Entry Draft Discussion v5

[moosemeister]

Or does it make them feel better about taking Wright and then the super skilled winger like Kemell or Lekkamari at 7?

Don't you use logic on me.

 

[rt]

Obviously Knies would be great but TOR would want alot I imagine. Sandin would be great. He could take over for ghost once he is gone as well.
Sandin, Poolparty, Barrie...might actually risk improving the team.

Also, Yotes have a penchant for improving struggling goalies. Another retain and flip candidate a year from now.

Most teams tank mid-season anyway. Haha.

 

[AZviaNJ]

How about Mrazek and Sandin for 67th overall? The Leafs are having a tough time with Sandin’s contract talks. And they need Mrazek gone. Sandin takes some of the pressure off getting a D prospect in return for Chychrun.


Then do Barrie+Kassian+Puljujarvi for Fischer+Capobianco.

Mrazek + Knies/Sandin for 67
Hornqvist + Ludvig + '23 2nd for 45
Bailey + '24 lottery protected 1st for 43

 

[Llewzaher]

wow I had no idea the Coyotes ran their own scouting combine with a select few of hand picked players up in Oshawa after the Buffalo combine. Great to see ..Sorry if this is old news ..but just saw this today .. Not sure who was there the picture was on for a split second etc..

EDIT... I see I am late to the party again ... sorry.... but I still think it is pretty cool ...

Great to see AM giving the scouts the red carpet treatment as well ..

 

[Half Clapper]

I think the Yotes are going to try and get another pick in the top 10 to draft Gauthier. Armstrong type guy who grew up in Scottsdale.

 

[BAdvocate]

I wonder if BA & team have any strategies in place to try and trade one of their late firsts for a 1st round pick in 2023.

 

[BUX7PHX]

Cooley to me is the player with thr highest skill and skating plus plays center. Only thiing is he is a liitle small. And you cant expect to decide your picked based on next years draft

I disagree with the idea that you can't expect to decide your pick based on next year's draft. Scouts have likely had insight on these players for more than just a single year.

Right now, we should be a bottom 6 team in 22-23 season, no? Looking at the available 23 draft eligible, there are a number of forwards who appear to be on par with or better than Cooley. So, if our scouts are effective at their job, and they see that there is not a Jiricek or Nemec type in the 2023 draft, and the forwards are at/above the level of who we might take at 3 in 2022, then it gives credence to taking a D and taking that risk for a forward in 2023. We still have a lot of time for the rebuild, and I am one who thinks there may be some decent forwards later in the 1st, whereas D may need more development. If someone can become a Jiricek between picks 27 and 45, it is possible, but most teams start to take the bigger D that slide or have high upside in the early 20s. We could play ourselves out of some players of need, especially if Chychrun is moved. RHD who are effective are a big need. Finding a Carlson or Parayko would give a massive 1/2 punch at RHD with Jiricek/Soderstrom.

 

[gorsk11]

I disagree with the idea that you can't expect to decide your pick based on next year's draft. Scouts have likely had insight on these players for more than just a single year.

Right now, we should be a bottom 6 team in 22-23 season, no? Looking at the available 23 draft eligible, there are a number of forwards who appear to be on par with or better than Cooley. So, if our scouts are effective at their job, and they see that there is not a Jiricek or Nemec type in the 2023 draft, and the forwards are at/above the level of who we might take at 3 in 2022, then it gives credence to taking a D and taking that risk for a forward in 2023. We still have a lot of time for the rebuild, and I am one who thinks there may be some decent forwards later in the 1st, whereas D may need more development. If someone can become a Jiricek between picks 27 and 45, it is possible, but most teams start to take the bigger D that slide or have high upside in the early 20s. We could play ourselves out of some players of need, especially if Chychrun is moved. RHD who are effective are a big need. Finding a Carlson or Parayko would give a massive 1/2 punch at RHD with Jiricek/Soderstrom.

I feel you take the best player available at #3. I think thats one of the top 3 forwards. Not what you might do next year. If they take a defenseman #3 I will be disappointed but if thats the player they want so be it. I cant see them passing on Cooley

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

I feel you take the best player available at #3. I think thats one of the top 3 forwards. Not what you night do next year. If they take a defenseman #3 I will be disappointed but if thats the player they want so be it. I cant see them passing on Cooley

Especially since they all over hockey IQ, there is probably no one with higher hockey IQ than Cooley in this draft and when you combine his skating (consensus tops in draft class with his hands one of the tops in draft class), I just don't see how he wouldn't be the selection at #3.

 

[BUX7PHX]

I feel you take the best player available at #3. I think thats one of the top 3 forwards. Not what you might do next year. If they take a defenseman #3 I will be disappointed but if thats the player they want so be it. I cant see them passing on Cooley

Since we have time and are going to be bad next year, I see it as taking the player whom I think will have the best chance at a prolonged, high-level career. Cooley likely will have a long career. I also think Jiricek will as well.

I do think that if we deal further up in the 1st round (whether Chychrun, or a move up with #27 and #34 to the late teens/early 20s) a player like Ostlund or Lekkerimaki also fills a great need.

Maybe part of me has just seen our luck with centers at #3 OA and is worried about where this goes, even though Cooley could arguably be a more dynamic player than Strome or Turris

 

[rt]

I think the Yotes are going to try and get another pick in the top 10 to draft Gauthier. Armstrong type guy who grew up in Scottsdale.

I think we’d have to do two moves to make that happen I think we’d have to get to 4th because Philly could take him 5th.

 

[Half Clapper]

I think we’d have to do two moves to make that happen I think we’d have to get to 4th because Philly could take him 5th.

Ya, I could see that happening also.

 

[rt]

I disagree with the idea that you can't expect to decide your pick based on next year's draft. Scouts have likely had insight on these players for more than just a single year.

Right now, we should be a bottom 6 team in 22-23 season, no? Looking at the available 23 draft eligible, there are a number of forwards who appear to be on par with or better than Cooley. So, if our scouts are effective at their job, and they see that there is not a Jiricek or Nemec type in the 2023 draft, and the forwards are at/above the level of who we might take at 3 in 2022, then it gives credence to taking a D and taking that risk for a forward in 2023. We still have a lot of time for the rebuild, and I am one who thinks there may be some decent forwards later in the 1st, whereas D may need more development. If someone can become a Jiricek between picks 27 and 45, it is possible, but most teams start to take the bigger D that slide or have high upside in the early 20s. We could play ourselves out of some players of need, especially if Chychrun is moved. RHD who are effective are a big need. Finding a Carlson or Parayko would give a massive 1/2 punch at RHD with Jiricek/Soderstrom.

I don’t think there’s any chance that next year’s top rated prospects and projected finish has any bearing at all on deciding who to select in this draft. 13 months ago Nemec and Jiricik weren’t viewed as Top 5 picks. It was Wright, Lambert and Savoie at 1st-3rd. Three future all-star centers. It’s possible Wright goes behind Nemec and they both Savoie and Lambert don’t go Top 10. And that neither ends up a center. Not to mention nobody figured Montreal fresh off the SC would pick last, and Arizona who tanked harder than any team in history would pick 3rd.

Making 2022 draft evaluations based on 2023 predictions is about as wise as using crystals and horoscopes to decide.

 

[jmelm]

Still feel like the Coyotes get another 1st rounder...Columbus' 12th or another one in the teens.

I would really like them to, and get one of the "next four" Dmen (Mintyukov/Korchinski/Pickering/Bischel).

How about Josh Bailey + #13 for #27 (or #32)?

 

[jmelm]

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So basically what this means is.........he's going to be a bust?

 

[Nowotny]

Stories from Russia (Fedotov,Kaprizov) are not encouraging.I don't think teams will be using their 1round picks to draft Russian players.

 

[TheLegend]

So basically what this means is.........he's going to be a bust?

Seems getting to Montreal by air is a bust.

The PHNXCoyotes crew had to spend a night in Minneapolis because their plane from Denver to MTL couldn’t pressurize. Avs coach Jared Bednar and the Stanley Cup were on the same flight.

Last I heard they finally got out of Minny about 3:00 this afternoon headed to MTL .

 

[AZviaNJ]

Seems getting to Montreal by air is a bust.

The PHNXCoyotes crew had to spend a night in Minneapolis because their plane from Denver to MTL couldn’t pressurize. Avs coach Jared Bednar and the Stanley Cup were on the same flight.

Last I heard they finally got out of Minny about 3:00 this afternoon headed to MTL .

PHNXCoyotes crew flying to Quebec on Air Canada. Who could've seen this coming?

I would really like them to, and get one of the "next four" Dmen (Mintyukov/Korchinski/Pickering/Bischel).

How about Josh Bailey + #13 for #27 (or #32)?

Like it, but Lou wants players not picks. I think this is still a potential Chychrun destination.

 

[TheLegend]

Air Canada ——>>> Air Cannot

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

Some smoke leaking from some French speaking writers that the Canadiens will pick Slaf. Habs fans on their board are believing it so its coming from reputable sources.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

ok, final 1st round mock

#	Player
1	Shane Wright
2	Juraj Slafkovsky
3	Logan Cooley
4	Simon Nemec
5	David Jiricek
6	Joakim Kemell
7	Cutter Gauthier
8	Jonathan Lekkerimaki
9	Matthew Savoie
10	Kevin Korchinski
11	Pavel Mintyukov
12	Frank Nazar
13	Danila Yurov
14	Marco Kasper
15	Conor Geekie
16	Denton Mateychuk
17	Liam Ohgren
18	Brad Lambert
19	Jiri Kulich
20	Ivan Miroshnichenko
21	Isaac Howard
22	Jimmy Snuggerud
23	Noah Ostlund
24	Owen Pickering
25	Jagger Firkus
26	Rutger McGroarty
27	Lian Bichsel
28	Ryan Chesley
29	Filip Mesar
30	Nathan Gaucher
31	Alexander Perevalov
32	Luca DelBelBelluz

 

[Prestigeworldwide]

Some smoke leaking from some French speaking writers that the Canadiens will pick Slaf. Habs fans on their board are believing it so its coming from reputable sources.

I'll be so stoked to get Wright or Cooley.

 

[BAdvocate]

2022 NHL Draft preview: Arizona Coyotes ready to go live for first in-person draft since 2019

The Arizona Coyotes will return to the stage in a big way with three picks in the first round, including the third overall selection.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[RemoAZ]

No matter who they pick, it is nice not going in to it being pretty sure I was going to be disappointed in whoever burger boy was going to pick or whatever trades he was going to make. Very rarely did I like a move he made and he sure did make a shit ton of them.

 

[Llewzaher]

I think we’d have to do two moves to make that happen I think we’d have to get to 4th because Philly could take him 5th.

Well they did mention Jersey was interested in Chychrun ..maybe there is a deal to be had for the 2nd.?