Rumor: 2022-2022 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part 14: Sakic goes back to bed

[Northern Avs Fan]

I think Lindholm is living off his reputation a bit.

The contract is fair.

 

[Foppberg]

Analytics guys don’t think the contract is a steal

Analytic guys are nerds though

 

[Foppa2118]

Just like how he said Avs were in on Giroux? Friedman is a fraud

Everyone got played by Fletcher on that one. All the insiders are probably deleting a bunch of contacts now after getting burned.

 

[Balthazar]

Starting to sour on Lehkonen. I think Habs will demand a huge overpayment.

Hughes wants a 2023 1st (not 2022) and we have one.

Once that's on the table I think it's basically done. He's waiting for a 2023 1st round pick. Also once his price is met he pulls the trigger, he doesn't like to wait (he said it himself and we've seen it with the Toffoli and Chiarot trades).

 

[the_fan]

Everyone got played by Fletcher on that one. All the insiders are probably deleting a bunch of contacts now after getting burned.

Like I said in my other post, show me a trade Friedman or anyone else have called correctly so far. None of them.

 

[MacKaRant]

I understand that this is a very important year for us with the UFA status of our entire second line. I know it's easy to get competitive seeing other teams add players and thinking "buy, buy, buy." But do we really think this is the last year of our window? Maybe we'll need that 2023 first-rounder to get something important at the next deadline?

Not saying that I necessarily think this way, but you know that Sakic is going to consider the value of that 2023 1st rounder for a future transaction. I think you can make a good case that spending it on, say, 1 playoff run of Andrew Copp isn't good asset management.

 

[Avsboy]

It's obvious that no one was "played" by Fletcher. It's obvious that Giroux only had discussions after Game 1000 - as he said he would in the press conference. Last minute request to Fletcher: "I only want Florida." Briere coming to Colorado, MacFarland going there...none of it was a smokescreen or for Braun, just no one knew about Giroux's one-team trade list until last minute.

 

[Avaholic29]

I understand that this is a very important year for us with the UFA status of our entire second line. I know it's easy to get competitive seeing other teams add players and thinking "buy, buy, buy." But do we really think this is the last year of our window? Maybe we'll need that 2023 first-rounder to get something important at the next deadline?

Not saying that I necessarily think this way, but you know that Sakic is going to consider the value of that 2023 1st rounder for a future transaction. I think you can make a good case that spending it on, say, 1 playoff run of Andrew Copp isn't good asset management.

Copp is an rfa and our window might not close but this year and the way the west looks is very clearly the best opportunity to make the finals. Our bottom 6 isn’t playoff capable, simple as that.

 

[Foppa2118]

I think Lindholm is living off his reputation a bit.

The contract is fair.

I'm not a huge Lindholm fan, and that 8 year deal is a little scary, but these stat guys never realize the difference playing on a bad team versus a good team can have on your analytics.

Brandon Saad is the perfect example.

 

[Avsboy]

Copp is an rfa and our window might not close but this year and the way the west looks is very clearly the best opportunity to make the finals. Our bottom 6 isn’t playoff capable, simple as that.

Copp is UFA

 

[dahrougem2]

He's never been a Bruin so why would he buy into "the Bruins way" when he can get at least that in UFA? Boston are also going to be the next SJ in a couple of years when Bergeron and Marchand retire.

Why buy in? Couldn't tell you. But the Bruins have almost always gotten their way on contracts.

 

[hughdreamz]

Fletcher played the media and then got played by Florida.

 

[dahrougem2]

I'm not a huge Lindholm fan, and that 8 year deal is a little scary, but these stat guys never realize the difference playing on a bad team versus a good team can have on your analytics.

Brandon Saad is the perfect example.

Yeah, for the most part these analytics guys like JFresh will show how "bad" a player has been when the team is bad, and conversely how "good" a player has been when the team is good.

I think most people out there know just how good Lindholm is. IMO Lindholm-McAvoy (if they play together) could be the best shutdown pairing in hockey.

 

[Foppa2118]

Like I said in my other post, show me a trade Friedman or anyone else have called correctly so far. None of them.

I mean there's only been a few trades so far, and Freidman and others all said Florida was the front runner for Giroux.

They almost never say Player X is going to Team Y. They say which teams are interested and who the frontrunners are.

 

[Richard88]

Like I said in my other post, show me a trade Friedman or anyone else have called correctly so far. None of them.

He speculated that Colorado and Toronto were working on something, and mentioned Jost's name. The next day Jost was traded to Minnesota. Could have just been a coincidence (and it was pretty obvious to everyone here that Jost was the logical piece to move), but it seems a bit like he had heard something from someone about Jost being shopped.

 

[Balthazar]

Why buy in? Couldn't tell you. But the Bruins have almost always gotten their way on contracts.

They knew how much he wanted before trading for him. Not like Lindholm accepted less just because he became a Bruin.

 

[dahrougem2]

Fletcher played the media and then got played by Florida.

How did he get played by Florida? He got a 1st round pick and a top prospect. I'm not a huge fan of Tippett but he's clearly on the cusp of breaking into the NHL. He's shown he's too good for the AHL already.

What more did people expect Giroux would get?

 

[Foppberg]

The Friedman whining is so lazy at this point. He speculates a lot but if people can't tell the difference between him speculating vs reporting, that's not on him.

 

[henchman21]

Coop is gonna get at least a 5m per deal. He’s worth it, but re-signing him would likely be tough. Still he makes the team better now. Hope the Avs land him.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

At this point I assume all the rumours of Avs being interested in players is false. I’m already penciling Namestnikov or Nieto onto the roster

 

[Balthazar]

Friedman has been saying for days now that Giroux was going to Florida. It's entirely possible that he didn't know that he ONLY wanted to go there.

It looks like Fletcher started shopping around before he knew that Giroux would only accept to go to Florida, hence the Briere stuff.

 

[dahrougem2]

They knew how much he wanted before trading for him. Not like Lindholm accepted less just because he became a Bruin.

There's a good chance he could have gotten more as a UFA this summer from some team. Boston gets good contracts. Knowing his number doesn't change that fact.

 

[the_fan]

All this so called insiders know which players are on trading block, which is no secret, everyone knows, all they do is just name random teams and say that's where player X will go to, if they're lucky they are right, most of the time they're wrong. Anyone can do their job, easiest thing to do.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I'm not a huge Lindholm fan, and that 8 year deal is a little scary, but these stat guys never realize the difference playing on a bad team versus a good team can have on your analytics.

Brandon Saad is the perfect example.

I’m sure he’ll uptick when he goes to Boston and is paired with McAvoy, but his contract kicks in when he’s 29 and he’s not exactly an offensive dynamo. How much do you think he’s worth?

 

[hughdreamz]

Insiders hear only what teams want them to hear.