2021 Roster Thread XVII - Targeting "Someone Else"

[prototypical4thliner]

how much credibility does this guy have?

I don’t think anything here is earth shattering. For a litany of different reasons, fletcher feels he needs to improve his roster. My only question really comes down to what would be definable as a “large shake up”.

 

[Lindberg]

I'm pretty shocked that some people around here are afraid of change.

This team has straight up sucked for a decade. If Fletcher shuffles the deck and makes hockey trades and so forth, I'm all in. This on ice product isn't working.

Frankly though I'm still really bothered that Lappy is a head coach, wtf.

 

[CutOnDime97]

Ah the Twitter special. Something so vague you can't possibly be wrong but good for a few retweets

 

[Lindberg]

I don’t think anything here is earth shattering. For a litany of different reasons, fletcher feels he needs to improve his roster. My only question really comes down to what would be definable as a “large shake up”.

I'd imagine it would mean 2 roster players going (Ghost/Voracek) or something like that.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

I'm pretty shocked that some people around here are afraid of change.

This team has straight up sucked for a decade. If Fletcher shuffles the deck and makes hockey trades and so forth, I'm all in. This on ice product isn't working.

Frankly though I'm still really bothered that Lappy is a head coach, wtf.

I don't think anyone is afraid of change - we constantly talk about needing it.

I think we're just afraid of the guy driving the car, if you know what I'm saying.

 

[GKJ]

The people who follow him, as I am one who does, knows he’s good for what he hears. But he’s not an anonymous shit disturbing insider desiring internet message board attention. Believe him or don’t, he’ll tell you himself not to take his word on it.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

how much credibility does this guy have?

Beats me, but to anyone paying attention it should be obvious that management is not happy with the makeup of this team & has been actively trying to change it since taking over.

They added Hayes & Niskanen in their first offseason, which helped, & tried hard to do more before & during last season but were stymied by all of the extenuating circumstances (Covid, flat cap, short season, looming ED, & teams’ resulting inflexibility).

Now, with a full off-season, having spoken with teams for a year, the ED going to be over, & teams knowing better where they stand, you can guarantee the Flyers are going to make significant changes. Hell, Friedman, LeBrun, & other “insiders” have indicated multiple times how active the Flyers will be.

I don’t know what the hell Hextall thought he was assembling in his 5.5 years, but the result was a roster that isn’t fast or highly skilled, & isn’t good defensively, big, or physical, either.

 

[CutOnDime97]

The people who follow him, as I am one who does, knows he’s good for what he hears. But he’s not an anonymous shit disturbing insider desiring internet message board attention. Believe him or don’t, he’ll tell you himself not to take his word on it.

Fair, I don't know the guy but will always be of the opinion that if you aren't actually willing to put something out there then it's better to put nothing out there.

 

[FlyerNutter]

He’s being forced into action because he knows his ass is on the line if they miss again next season.

Will be interesting to see what he does.

 

[TheKingPin]

You can guarantee that the Flyers are going to get bent over.

Yea I think so too. You just have to hope we go after Eichel to at least get the best player and an elite one.

I'm pretty shocked that some people around here are afraid of change.

This team has straight up sucked for a decade. If Fletcher shuffles the deck and makes hockey trades and so forth, I'm all in. This on ice product isn't working.

Frankly though I'm still really bothered that Lappy is a head coach, wtf.

Not so much afraid of change, just afraid of who is changing it. I’ve given up on these guys learning from mistakes. It’s the same shit forever.

 

[Rebels57]

That tweet from pucksauce makes me nervous. Chuck has a history of liking to make sure the other team he’s dealing with via trade is well taken care of.

Serenity now.

Nervous over what? We already suck lol

 

[Rebels57]

I'm pretty shocked that some people around here are afraid of change.

This team has straight up sucked for a decade. If Fletcher shuffles the deck and makes hockey trades and so forth, I'm all in. This on ice product isn't working.

Frankly though I'm still really bothered that Lappy is a head coach, wtf.

This. I couldnt care less what happens lol

 

[BigToe]

Anyone have a ready to go list of Fletcher’s trade history?

Edit:

History of hockey trades by general manager Chuck Fletcher - NHL Trade Tracker


Looks like he should stick to drafting and not trading…

Wow... he was with the Wild for a lot longer than I thought.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Nervous over what? We already suck lol

That’s the thing. He’s going to make them worse?

A team that has to claw its way to even make round one?

The worse he makes them, the closer he comes to a firing along with his band of Merry Men.

 

[kudymen]

Given the level of apathy this regime has lead me to, be it via display on the ice, identity (lack or quality thereof), or even approach to accountability on an organizational level, there are hardly any kind of moves that would damage my current feelings towards the team or my fandom itself. As far as I am concerned, they better change something, anything up.

I'm absolutely in for the change of status quo because this product is more than unacceptable. At the same time, I'm absolutely NOT confident in the bus driver. But he's (they're) already in the position where he can only surprise me. And any Flyers player involved is highly likely in for a positive change so there's that. So that's at least one party who will be happy afterwards, my feelings be damned.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Beats me, but to anyone paying attention it should be obvious that management is not happy with the makeup of this team & has been actively trying to change it since taking over.

They added Hayes & Niskanen in their first offseason, which helped, & tried hard to do more before & during last season but were stymied by all of the extenuating circumstances (Covid, flat cap, short season, looming ED, & teams’ resulting inflexibility).

Now, with a full off-season, having spoken with teams for a year, the ED going to be over, & teams knowing better where they stand, you can guarantee the Flyers are going to make significant changes. Hell, Friedman, LeBrun, & other “insiders” have indicated multiple times how active the Flyers will be.

I don’t know what the hell Hextall thought he was assembling in his 5.5 years, but the result was a roster that isn’t fast or highly skilled, & isn’t good defensively, big, or physical, either.

can only hope that Hexy repeats himself in Pitt and gives them a nice shitty, sterile on ice product.

 

[Lindberg]

Fair, I don't know the guy but will always be of the opinion that if you aren't actually willing to put something out there then it's better to put nothing out there.

What do you want someone to say?

He's just stating what he's heard.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Giroux for Shattenkirk is finally happening?

 

[FlyerNutter]

Id just say this though. Time will tell, but how many of these rumors to believe that the Flyers are “in” on everyone is something I question.

The only time for many years now we have any leaks is when it is beneficial to the organization to do so.

Smearing Hextall on his way out, stories about how Patrick is shit when they appear to have him primed and loaded in the chamber. Bill constantly throwing out Myers and Konecny as the expendables. O’Connor mentioning player rifts with Gordon now that Lappy has replaced him.

It greatly benefits the organization, which has shown its clearly aware of fan perception and growing apathy - to try ensure they get their fanbase excited.

Shall see what happens, or we get more of “but I tried really hard” - out of Fletcher.

 

[CutOnDime97]

What do you want someone to say?

He's just stating what he's heard.

Give a name? Anything? Why didn't it happen last year? They wanted too much?

"Potentially a much bigger shake up than we realize" What's that even mean? If you aren't willing to give anymore info than that then keep it to yourself.

 

[Lindberg]

This. I couldnt care less what happens lol

Yeah I don't get why anyone cares at this point. It's been about impossible to muster up any excitement for years.

Hakstol needed to go years ago but other players should of went with him. This team spends too much money on scouting/coaching for it to continually just be stuck in mediocrity.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Give a name? Anything? Why didn't it happen last year? They wanted too much?

"Potentially a much bigger shake up than we realize" What's that even mean? If you aren't willing to give anymore info than that then keep it to yourself.

Nothing but an attention whore. Saying nothing but knowing there will be people who take note.

It works sadly, look at us here haha.

 

[Lindberg]

Give a name? Anything? Why didn't it happen last year? They wanted too much?

"Potentially a much bigger shake up than we realize" What's that even mean? If you aren't willing to give anymore info than that then keep it to yourself.

Probably because he doesn't want to leak any info that he might have? Most clubs don't appreciate that.

If you're trying to make deals you don't want other clubs to know what you're offering and for who.

 

[CutOnDime97]

Probably because he doesn't want to leak any info that he might have? Most clubs don't appreciate that.

If you're trying to make deals you don't want other clubs to know what you're offering and for who.

If that's the case then don't write the tweet. It's possible to keep things to yourself. Obviously he's free to do what he wants but I just get irritated by "I can't say what but something big is coming" social media posts

 

[Striiker]

I'm pretty shocked that some people around here are afraid of change.

This team has straight up sucked for a decade. If Fletcher shuffles the deck and makes hockey trades and so forth, I'm all in. This on ice product isn't working.

Frankly though I'm still really bothered that Lappy is a head coach, wtf.

You say that as if they weren’t rebuilding for most of the past decade. The fact that they’ve sucked doesn’t mean drastic changes are necessary.

There’s already been lots of turnover in recent years. The team looks nothing like it did 5 years ago, let alone 10. And with Chuck in charge, big changes are only going to make things worse. Just look at who were likely losing in the ED as a perfect example. Losing one of JVR, Jake, or Ghost makes us significantly worse, let alone multiple.