Prospect Info: 2021 NHL Draft Thread Vol. 1

[sigma six]

Seattle picking at #2, Wooooo!

Might be for the best that Chuck and his lot don't have to deal with a top 5 pick in such an uncertain draft class. Am convinced they'd f*** that all up.

 

[Magua]

Dude is never even close on who the Flyers pick. He had us going with Serron Noel the year we took Farabee at 14.

Noel went 34th overall lol

This reminds me:



Not even at 19.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Seattle picking at #2, Wooooo!

Might be for the best that Chuck and his lot don't have to deal with a top 5 pick in such an uncertain draft class. Am convinced they'd f*** that all up.

The chances of us having that pick by the time the draft rolls around are pretty low anyway, I think.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

This reminds me:



Not even at 19.

I like earlier this year when Grant made some dumb video on YouTube & complained about Leafs fans giving it downvotes (in totality there wasn’t much interaction the video in general). So he took a screen shot & posted it on twitter with his YouTube account logged in still showing he himself also downvoted it while complaining people were downvoting it.

 

[Rebels57]

This reminds me:



Not even at 19.

What a f***ing dildo

 

[flyersnorth]

Bruh..

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

Dude is never even close on who the Flyers pick. He had us going with Serron Noel the year we took Farabee at 14 and Bode Wilde at 19th overall.

Noel went 34th overall, Wilde 41st lol

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He had the Flyers bang on with Samuel Morin. I also think he had us on Provorov and Sanheim as well. I'm not sure if he had us on Laughton (I think he had Tom Wilson), but he also had them Foerster last year. There are some years he's out to lunch, but other years he's definitely bang on.

 

[FLYguy3911]

He also had Patrick #2 on lottery night when everyone had Patrick going #1.

Button also has L'Heureux in his top 10 so not surprising. He's buddies with Patterson so I'm sure they like similar players.

 

[Angry Hockey Dad]

Ok mixed reviews on Raty. I see Carson Lambos is right in our wheelhouse too

 

[Rebels57]

He had the Flyers bang on with Samuel Morin. I also think he had us on Provorov and Sanheim as well. I'm not sure if he had us on Laughton (I think he had Tom Wilson), but he also had them Foerster last year. There are some years he's out to lunch, but other years he's definitely bang on.

2020 - Tyson Foerster
2019 - Peyton Krebs
2018 - Serron Noel, Bode Wilde
2017 - Nolan Patrick (duh)
2016 - Max Jones
2015 - Ivan Provorov
2014 - Robby Fabbri
2013 - Samuel Morin

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Somebody good is going to fall to 13. Assuming they keep the pick, the best strategy is to pounce on whomever that is.

McTavish? Would be nice, but I have a very difficult time thinking he won't go top 10.

Guenther? Ridiculous hands and skill -- I also think there's little chance he'll fall to 13.

Edvinsson? A 6'5" skilled defenseman who played 10 games in the SHL at 18 almost certainly isn't dropping to 13.

Kent Johnson? Seems very unlikely he'll be there at 13.

But you never know. One of the four guys above could slip to 13, and any of them would be excellent value at 13 if they did.


Then a few couple guys who are more realistically likely to make it to 13:

Cole Sillinger -- Now there's a guy with the talent to go top 10 but who has a decent chance of being there at 13. He'd be a major consideration.

Same with Carson Lambos. Could very well be there at 13 and would be a very strong consideration if so.

Chaz Lucius? Kind of one-dimensional, not a great skater, and wouldn't be my preference at 13, but he does have a very good shot and is a good finisher. That said, I'd prefer any of the above over him.

So, the way I see it at this early stage, Sillinger and Lambos are the best players with a pretty good chance to be available at 13. However, there might be a slim chance McTavish, Guenther, Edvinsson, or Johnson falls to 13, each of which would be a steal at 13. One of those six players and I'll be very happy.

I’ll add that I also would be ok with L’Hereux & would take him over Lucius.

 

[CapnZin]

and Ive actually watched the top-10+ prospects play in this draft

You said you’ve watched them, but also said Owen Power is reliable defensively. He had some trouble at Michigan. There were also remarks that he can generate offense and on a stacked Mich team he didn’t do it all too well. He didn’t cover the blue lone on both sides well at times which was supposed to be his specialty.
This isn’t to bring Power down, but he’s a bit hard to project. Saying he’s an automatic top pairing guy is a bit lazy. It’s very lazy since you’ve said you watched him. He didn’t even get the tough matchups at Mich either. Doesn’t seem like you’ve actually watched him. If so, then maybe the game comprehension is a bit off.
Seems a bit odd to really jump down the rabbit hole with your argument while trashing a current player, but to each their own. Power looks to have tools, but without much of a viewing this year (I didn’t watch him in the USHL) it’s hard to gauge.
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He’s not been known as a defensive stalwart. He’s been pressed as a 2-way breakout artist. His vision is one of his best assets. How is that a need for the flyers? I’m not talking about ability. We have 2 above average breakout passers. Why would be sell the house to grab the same house that’s a bit shinier? Again, not talking about ability, but more style.

 

[hystyk1921]

Somebody good is going to fall to 13. Assuming they keep the pick, the best strategy is to pounce on whomever that is.

McTavish? Would be nice, but I have a very difficult time thinking he won't go top 10.

Guenther? Ridiculous hands and skill -- I also think there's little chance he'll fall to 13.

Edvinsson? A 6'5" skilled defenseman who played 10 games in the SHL at 18 almost certainly isn't dropping to 13.

Kent Johnson? Seems very unlikely he'll be there at 13.

But you never know. One of the four guys above could slip to 13, and any of them would be excellent value at 13 if they did.


Then a few couple guys who are more realistically likely to make it to 13:

Cole Sillinger -- Now there's a guy with the talent to go top 10 but who has a decent chance of being there at 13. He'd be a major consideration.

Same with Carson Lambos. Could very well be there at 13 and would be a very strong consideration if so.

Chaz Lucius? Kind of one-dimensional, not a great skater, and wouldn't be my preference at 13, but he does have a very good shot and is a good finisher. That said, I'd prefer any of the above over him.

So, the way I see it at this early stage, Sillinger and Lambos are the best players with a pretty good chance to be available at 13. However, there might be a slim chance McTavish, Guenther, Edvinsson, or Johnson falls to 13, each of which would be a steal at 13. One of those six players and I'll be very happy.

I’ll add that I also would be ok with L’Hereux & would take him over Lucius.

Love to see one of those guys fall, anything is possible. easy pick for the flyers would be coronato, mctavish, or lysell if those players aren’t there

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Love to see one of those guys fall, anything is possible. easy pick for the flyers would be coronato, mctavish, or lysell if those players aren’t there

Coronato isn’t my preference at 13, but he wouldn’t be the end of the world, either.

 

[hystyk1921]

Somebody good is going to fall to 13. Assuming they keep the pick, the best strategy is to pounce on whomever that is.

McTavish? Would be nice, but I have a very difficult time thinking he won't go top 10.

Guenther? Ridiculous hands and skill -- I also think there's little chance he'll fall to 13.

Edvinsson? A 6'5" skilled defenseman who played 10 games in the SHL at 18 almost certainly isn't dropping to 13.

Kent Johnson? Seems very unlikely he'll be there at 13.

But you never know. One of the four guys above could slip to 13, and any of them would be excellent value at 13 if they did.


Then a few couple guys who are more realistically likely to make it to 13:

Cole Sillinger -- Now there's a guy with the talent to go top 10 but who has a decent chance of being there at 13. He'd be a major consideration.

Same with Carson Lambos. Could very well be there at 13 and would be a very strong consideration if so.

Chaz Lucius? Kind of one-dimensional, not a great skater, and wouldn't be my preference at 13, but he does have a very good shot and is a good finisher. That said, I'd prefer any of the above over him.

So, the way I see it at this early stage, Sillinger and Lambos are the best players with a pretty good chance to be available at 13. However, there might be a slim chance McTavish, Guenther, Edvinsson, or Johnson falls to 13, each of which would be a steal at 13. One of those six players and I'll be very happy.

I’ll add that I also would be ok with L’Hereux & would take him over Lucius.

double post my bad, but yeah I would take Johnson if he fell but I doubt he will be there. Mctavish could be off the board by pick 13. Good players at 13 that this teams needs

 

[hystyk1921]

Coronato isn’t my preference at 13, but he wouldn’t be the end of the world, either.

I like his potential and goal scoring ability but his skating isn’t the best it seems like players in that area that the flyers pick may have that issue too.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Every defenseman gets walked here and there but...

He's really tight-hipped defending rushes. He gives himself almost no chance at defending anyone with speed.

Here's another one where he's actually getting praise. Yeah it's a nice recovery but there's no resistance and a 4th liner gets an easy entry. He's got pretty good support there. That should be an easy funnel up the boards. He doesn't even pivot until he gets to the faceoff circle!

 

[flyerslducks]

Every defenseman gets walked here and there but...

He's really tight-hipped defending rushes. He gives himself almost no chance at defending anyone with speed.

Here's another one where he's actually getting praise. Yeah it's a nice recovery but there's no resistance and a 4th liner gets an easy entry. He's got pretty good support there. That should be an easy funnel up the boards.

these are things that can definitely be taught tho, no?

 

[FLYguy3911]

these are things that can definitely be taught tho, no?

Definitely? No. Nothing is definite with development. I'm sure tweaks can and will be made to compensate and he's not the first 18 year old that isn't comfortable going backwards, but at the end of the day he's a high-cut 6'6 athlete. Change of direction is just not going to be his forte. I think his problems are much more related to skating/athleticism than technique which is my main concern with him as a prospect. He's very good moving forward, especially if you give him a runway, but short area skating in all directions is lacking. Space is going to be harder to find as he moves up the ladder. It's why I chuckle when people talk about him like some stalwart defensive defenseman. He's an offensive leaning defensemen all the way (Reminds me of our 2C). And for good reason. He has excellent hands and passing skills and pretty solid vision (over 10% primary assist rate on Michigan ES goals this year which is phenomenal for a freshman defensemen). That part of his game is quite rare. You just don't see guys this big with those kinds of skills. But if you're a liability at the other half of the ice, how valuable is that player? We're basically talking about a PP specialist.

 

[Magua]

Guys can add strength to their stride, clean up technique. But heavy footwork, edge work, quick twitch.....not so much. That goes for forwards, but doubly so for defensemen. Power at full stride visually looks fine to me and he has skill to navigate and move a puck at speed; it's his mushy first steps and change of direction that stand out, as was said above. Hip fluidity is something you'd associate with a cornerback, but it's very important for defending 1-on-1 in hockey. Power freezes his lower body too much.

Look at Seth Jones. Fantastic forward skater, way more athletic than Power.....bleeds entries against because of lesser back-skating and confidence doing so. No one with a shred of hockey IQ wants to allow a clean entry; guys just do it because they're hesitant to get beat and maybe for good reason.

 

[IronMarshal]

Somebody good is going to fall to 13. Assuming they keep the pick, the best strategy is to pounce on whomever that is.

McTavish? Would be nice, but I have a very difficult time thinking he won't go top 10.

Guenther? Ridiculous hands and skill -- I also think there's little chance he'll fall to 13.

Edvinsson? A 6'5" skilled defenseman who played 10 games in the SHL at 18 almost certainly isn't dropping to 13.

Kent Johnson? Seems very unlikely he'll be there at 13.

But you never know. One of the four guys above could slip to 13, and any of them would be excellent value at 13 if they did.


Then a few couple guys who are more realistically likely to make it to 13:

Cole Sillinger -- Now there's a guy with the talent to go top 10 but who has a decent chance of being there at 13. He'd be a major consideration.

Same with Carson Lambos. Could very well be there at 13 and would be a very strong consideration if so.

Chaz Lucius? Kind of one-dimensional, not a great skater, and wouldn't be my preference at 13, but he does have a very good shot and is a good finisher. That said, I'd prefer any of the above over him.

So, the way I see it at this early stage, Sillinger and Lambos are the best players with a pretty good chance to be available at 13. However, there might be a slim chance McTavish, Guenther, Edvinsson, or Johnson falls to 13, each of which would be a steal at 13. One of those six players and I'll be very happy.

I’ll add that I also would be ok with L’Hereux & would take him over Lucius.

I agree with most of this, but Lucius is a better skater than Sillinger, and Lucius is better in his own end than you give him credit for. He may be more wing than center though. I think L’ Hereux goes later than 13, but is probably close there.

 

[Tripod]

Another enigmatic prospect who once was on our preseason top-32. There’s a lot of chatter about L’Heureux’s on-ice discipline issues following multiple suspensions, but we care a lot more about his complete insignificance against a strong Charlottetown squad (6 points in 15 games) versus his total domination of lowly Cape Breton (28 points in 13 games).
-The Draft Analyst....rank #47

Shows how wildly different the rankings are going to be this year.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

2020 - Tyson Foerster
2019 - Peyton Krebs
2018 - Serron Noel, Bode Wilde
2017 - Nolan Patrick (duh)
2016 - Max Jones
2015 - Ivan Provorov
2014 - Robby Fabbri
2013 - Samuel Morin

Max Jones was the Sanheim year, right?

 

[TheKingPin]

Ole' Chuck the Cuck with another plain toast quote tonight

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I think he will do well with the pick. Just nothing else before or after or during if he trades it for anyone not named Eichel.

 

[deadhead]

Ole' Chuck the Cuck with another plain toast quote tonight

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Yes, and that's a bad thing?

I don't want my GM to be honest going into an important off-season, I want him to obfuscate and confuse.

It's what he does that matters.