Draft 2021 NHL Draft and FA thread Part 2

[jaywills1020]

Lias' issue was his own head (at least from what we know) and from what has been known about Svechkov that doesn't seem to be the case. Otherwise, a defensively reliable center prospect that can be a quality 3C in the NHL is something NYR needs in their pipeline.

Before Bob's list Svechkov was ranked as high as No. 6 to as low as No. 58. Bob has him at No. 17, IIRC. I would take his list with higher priority than others because he talks to at least 10 scouts each year to gauge their lists. Expectation then would mean Svechkov will go in the teens somewhere.

honest question. Would you rather draft a guy that can be a 3c or draft the best possible player and grab a 3c in free agency?

 

[Joey Bones]

I don't understand why Russian's continue to fall lower than where they should be. When was the last time a high-profile player from Russia didn't sign here? Kovalchuk leaving is the most recent situation I can recall but that was a gift to the Devils if anything.

I mean in 2023 there is going to be a real battle for the No. 1 pick between Conor Bedard and Matvei Michkov...

 

[mas0764]

honest question. Would you rather draft a guy that can be a 3c or draft the best possible player and grab a 3c in free agency?

Best possible player and grab a 3C in free agency. Zero question.

Anybody you draft, whether they can be a 3C or not, is probably not contributing this year.

The Rangers desperately need centers though and if the prospects are close it's fine to lean to the position you need. Honestly, is there really that much quality difference between Lysell, Othmann, Coronato, and Sillinger? In that case just take the center. (though admittedly I am a little partial towards Lysell)

But if Dylan Guenther falls, I think you have to grab him. Same as the logic behind drafting Wallstedt.

 

[Joey Bones]

honest question. Would you rather draft a guy that can be a 3c or draft the best possible player and grab a 3c in free agency?

The draft will always outbid a free agent, IMO. If that drafted player becomes something, you have 3 years of cost-controlled quality that could go a long way for a team. Look at Tampa for example with this. They have guys like Joseph, Gourde, Stephens, and Cirelli all fill big roles on their depth chart and were (and some still are) on small deals. This way a GM could use their cap on big-money players.

It may be easier for the Rangers (because they got the cash), but smaller budgeted teams like Columbus or Arizona need this to compete.

So IMO, I'd rather draft any player and have them develop over a free agent. With that said, though, there are circumstances where that could change like bringing back Dom Moore to play 4C or this current Goodrow signing. This could also change based on BPA, too. So there's risk involved, for sure, but there's risk for signing a UFA if they don't pan out.

 

[Joey Bones]

Best possible player and grab a 3C in free agency. Zero question.

Anybody you draft, whether they can be a 3C or not, is probably not contributing this year.

The Rangers desperately need centers though and if the prospects are close it's fine to lean to the position you need. Honestly, is there really that much quality difference between Lysell, Othmann, Coronato, and Sillinger? In that case just take the center. (though admittedly I am a little partial towards Lysell)

But if Dylan Guenther falls, I think you have to grab him. Same as the logic behind drafting Wallstedt.

I mean, BPA all the way, right? Seems to give a team the best chance at getting a quality player.

With that said, this class is going to go all over the place tonight. Even Bob is saying that this is going to wildly inaccurate to most rankings.

We shall see...

 

[Joey Bones]

Also...

Happy Draft Day Peeps!!!!!!!

 

[Joey Bones]

Seems they might actually be making the pick...

 

[Joey Bones]

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Guenther?

Zero interest in small playmaking wingers.

 

[Sayba]

Zero interest in small playmaking wingers.

There is very little chance we get him but he isn't small. He is listed at 6'2.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

There is very little chance we get him but he isn't small. He is listed at 6'2.

Funny, always thought he's small, must have confused him with eklund. Still, no interest in wingers or playmakers.

McTavish is my BPA, just like pettersson was couple years back. Will be a monster and I would lose if we magically pick him up. Hope he goes out west obviously.

 

[Joey Bones]

Zero interest in small playmaking wingers.

He's neither playmaking nor small. Pure goal-scoring winger is going to look deadly next to Jack Hughes. He can grind and get in the dirty areas too.

I'm dreading that there is a good chance the Devils take him, actually...

 

[Joey Bones]

Funny, always thought he's small, must have confused him with eklund. Still, no interest in wingers or playmakers.

McTavish is my BPA, just like pettersson was couple years back. Will be a monster and I would lose if we magically pick him up. Hope he goes out west obviously.

Must be thinking of Eklund, then (even though he doesn't play tiny)...

Crazy to think that Eklund had Covid and had an emergency appendectomy done this season, yet still worked his way to the top 5. Imagine what he can accomplish if he has a full healthy year?

Agreed on McTavish!

 

[Joey Bones]

Mods could we get this thread stickied?

@Krams @Gardner McKay @Fugazy @Kakko @Killem Dafoe

 

[Edge]

Seems they might actually be making the pick...

That's kind of what I was figuring based on past feedback.

They're willing to move the pick, but you can't give it away either. You have to have value in return.

 

[Joey Bones]

That's kind of what I was figuring based on past feedback.

They're willing to move the pick, but you can't give it away either. You have to have value in return.

Hey, I've been hearing that Kent Johnson is not in the Ranger's top 20...

Have you heard the same?

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Anyone know where we can watch the draft tonight online?

 

[Sayba]

Funny, always thought he's small, must have confused him with eklund. Still, no interest in wingers or playmakers.

McTavish is my BPA, just like pettersson was couple years back. Will be a monster and I would lose if we magically pick him up. Hope he goes out west obviously.

I like him but I think we need to draft a center who can skate. - Svechkov if we make the pick.

 

[eco's bones]

Also...

Happy Draft Day Peeps!!!!!!!

Hopefully it’s Jesper Wallstedt day.

 

[Quinnisinoverhishead]

Zero interest in small playmaking wingers.

Lol he’s 6’-2. And he rips ginos.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Anyone know where we can watch the draft tonight online?

NOT on NHL.tv

 

[Polar Bear]

Any love for Nikita Chibrikov? @Edge

 

[Edge]

Hey, I've been hearing that Kent Johnson is not in the Ranger's top 20...

Have you heard the same?

That's a working suspicion right now. He's not in their top 10 for sure.

 

[Joey Bones]

Any love for Nikita Chibrikov? @Edge

Yes, he's a slippery playmaker. I would like him at No. 15 along with others. He may drop due to lack of pro experience, but he's a solid bet in the teens.

 

[gabevh3]

NOT on NHL.tv

No but close... onhockey.Tv