GDT: 2021 Expansion Draft Discussion Thread
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Langway
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Hivemind
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EYEuhFRAYtee
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Best part of the leaks is not having to watch ESPN tonight.
HecticGlow
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The amount of info already out there is embarrassing. Far too many people seem to have access to Seattle’s picks for the info not to be leaked, as the info seems to be coming from a wide variety of sources.
Losing Vitek hurts us both in net, and in the draft picks/prospects we’re going to lose trying to shift money off our books. We don’t have a first or second round pick for this year, or a second for next year. Mortgaging the future to make your team better today is one thing, but doing so to make your team slightly less good but cheaper today is quite another. My guess is that GMBM wasn’t prepared to part with a first/Alexeyev to ensure Seattle took a big contract instead because that’s so pricey, but realistically we’ll likely end up paying at least that to move a contract by trade and have a big hole at goal to fill. Maybe buying out Kempny and trading Jensen wouldn’t be as expensive, but it’ll still cost us good assets and cap space this/next year.
Pray that Ovi’s deal is reasonable.
Losing Vitek hurts us both in net, and in the draft picks/prospects we’re going to lose trying to shift money off our books. We don’t have a first or second round pick for this year, or a second for next year. Mortgaging the future to make your team better today is one thing, but doing so to make your team slightly less good but cheaper today is quite another. My guess is that GMBM wasn’t prepared to part with a first/Alexeyev to ensure Seattle took a big contract instead because that’s so pricey, but realistically we’ll likely end up paying at least that to move a contract by trade and have a big hole at goal to fill. Maybe buying out Kempny and trading Jensen wouldn’t be as expensive, but it’ll still cost us good assets and cap space this/next year.
Pray that Ovi’s deal is reasonable.
895
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What's your definition of reasonable?
In terms of purely cap hit to expected performance. I think 4x8m is 'reasonable'. However I highly doubt he goes that low.
BiPolar Caps
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We still have our second round pick this season, Arizona's third round pick and no 7th round pick .
Excluding the second round pick in 2022, we have all our other 2022 picks.
I'm ok with those numbers, especially when younger players who haven't put out seasons like Ovy are getting more now. If he was to sign for 6 million, I think all of us would dance circles and jump for joy. I don't think he signs for less than 8 million though.
tenken00
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HecticGlow
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My mistake, I thought we’d given it up in the Vrana/Mantha deal. Even so, spending 3 of your 4 first/second round picks in 2021 and 2022 without getting a signigicant, positive impact on your team in return would be challenging for a team as prospect-bare as Washington. We’ll see what Mantha’s like when he’s had time in our system, but adding him at that cost didn’t have the sort of impact that, say, Goodrow, Coleman and Savard have each had on Tampa after their additions. If we end up spending a second to get rid of a guy we only signed last year, that would be unnecessarily wasteful. And even if it’s just to move Kempny or Jensen, that doesn’t make our team better - just less expensive. Sigh. Hope GMBM can pull something out of a hat here.
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I'll be stunned if Ovie signs for less than 9.5.
tenken00
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Wasn't aware of the Columbus selection at the time, but yes, that qualifies too.
Hivemind
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Someone make sure Ovie gets really into numerology like Sid when Sid was signing those $8.7M contracts to match his Jersey.
Corby78
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Can you imagine if we hadn't already gotten rid of Panik? Looking at the cost NYI paid to get rid of Ladd, this may be a hard offseason to swallow.
BiPolar Caps
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Betting on a veteran goalie who was already in decline before having to take an entire year off hockey to get open heart surgery as your security blanket back-up seems, well, not the right approach.
Bernier or Mrazek if they somehow clear a bunch of cap space.
One of Brossoit, McElhinney, Halak, Hutton, or Rittich if they don't.
I agree, I liked Bernier last year I mentioned him a few times during the TDL. You think he would cost more than Halak?
Neil Racki
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Arent we supposed to support our sport?
When I was a Neilsen family, Id leave my channel on hockey or terps basketball even if I wasnt watching it.
g00n
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Haven't been shy about the fact that I'm not high on Vitek's ceiling but it still sucks from a cap perspective. I wonder if there's a side deal on the table to take one of Schultz or Dillon after the draft. From Seattle's perspective that would be Schultz/Dillon + Vanecek + sweetener instead of just taking Schultz or Dillon.
Seems clear that Seattle is taking the guys with low cap hits and keeping enough space open so that they can eat additional contracts later on if they're paid to do so.
Seems clear that Seattle is taking the guys with low cap hits and keeping enough space open so that they can eat additional contracts later on if they're paid to do so.
Hivemind
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I think he would cost more than Halak. Halak has entered the 1 year contract at a time, maybe 2, phase of his career. Bernier could still score $3ishM with a few season term.
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