Speculation: 2021-22 Sharks Roster Discussion part IX

[Boy Hedican]

When Mario gets paired consistantly with a quality stay home d-man, he's gonna blossom. Just watch.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

When Mario gets paired consistantly with a quality stay home d-man, he's gonna blossom. Just watch.

Into what?

 

[OrrNumber4]

When Mario gets paired consistantly with a quality stay home d-man, he's gonna blossom. Just watch.

Ferraro is a quality stay-at-home d-man...

 

[Pavelski2112]

Ferraro is a quality stay-at-home d-man...

He absolutely is not, at least not this year. He's good at blocking shots, but it tells you something that he has to block so many.

Ferraro's biggest problem is that in his first year, he played a very good, stable game, but after being paired with Burns so long, he's tried to do everything on the ice and it's not working for him.

 

[Coily]

Into what?

Into the biggest meat shield in the league.

 

[Boy Hedican]

Into what?

a more effective d-man with a motor who is willing to take chances to make plays.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

a more effective d-man with a motor who is willing to take chances to make plays.

He's already plenty willing to take chances to make plays. He probably just needs a lower event partner than Burns.

 

[hohosaregood]

I think if you paired Ferraro with a prime Braun or Vlasic who were fundamentally less aggressive and more predictable defenders, he'd be a really incredible checking defenseman. Burns is a little too chaotic for this pairing and Ferraro needs to calm it down too.

 

[one2gamble]

I think if you paired Ferraro with a prime Braun or Vlasic who were fundamentally less aggressive and more predictable defenders, he'd be a really incredible checking defenseman. Burns is a little too chaotic for this pairing and Ferraro needs to calm it down too.

pair him with vlasic now. I say f*** it and let Burns and Karl play together just roaming around

 

[Hodge]

If Ferraro gets the raise Sheng is projecting the Sharks will be spending over $35 million on defensemen next season. That's a full $10 million more than what Tampa is spending on their defense as the next closest team. Utter insanity.

 

[Boy Hedican]

He's already plenty willing to take chances to make plays. He probably just needs a lower event partner than Burns.

Yes. A stay home defenseman.

 

[one2gamble]

If Ferraro gets the raise Sheng is projecting the Sharks will be spending over $35 million on defensemen next season. That's a full $10 million more than what Tampa is spending on their defense as the next closest team. Utter insanity.

nobody is going to disagree with this stance, might be the first time for you

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Yes. A stay home defenseman.

Unless the plan is to have a shutdown pairing, Ferraro isn't going to carry the offense for any pairing he's on.

 

[hohosaregood]

pair him with vlasic now. I say f*** it and let Burns and Karl play together just roaming around

Honestly, I was thinking Middleton-Ferraro could work.

 

[TheBeard]

He absolutely is not, at least not this year. He's good at blocking shots, but it tells you something that he has to block so many.

Ferraro's biggest problem is that in his first year, he played a very good, stable game, but after being paired with Burns so long, he's tried to do everything on the ice and it's not working for him.

He does it because he’s on the ice for half the game and his d partner has turned into a pylon which means he can’t be aggressive on the puck.

 

[Pavelski2112]

He does it because he’s on the ice for half the game and his d partner has turned into a pylon which means he can’t be aggressive on the puck.

That's entirely fair, but he was a better defenseman when he wasn't trying to be Burns. He just needs to simplify his game and play like he did in his rookie year.

 

[TheBeard]

That's entirely fair, but he was a better defenseman when he wasn't trying to be Burns. He just needs to simplify his game and play like he did in his rookie year.

Agreed, but I’m surprised there is as much dislike towards Mario considering he’s been asked to do way too much and so much out of his wheelhouse. The pairing of him and Burns and the minutes they get is perhaps BB’s greatest mistake

 

[TheBeard]

Unless the plan is to have a shutdown pairing, Ferraro isn't going to carry the offense for any pairing he's on.

Nor should he be asked to.

 

[stator]

If Ferraro gets the raise Sheng is projecting the Sharks will be spending over $35 million on defensemen next season. That's a full $10 million more than what Tampa is spending on their defense as the next closest team. Utter insanity.

Factoring Karlsson off LITR, it's knocking on the $32m door right now. Ferraro could push that to $37m as a UFA or arbitration eligible, but he's not. So the Sharks hold the cards, and all Ferraro could do is hold out.

 

[TheBeard]

Factoring Karlsson off LITR, it's knocking on the $32m door right now. Ferraro could push that to $37m as a UFA or arbitration eligible, but he's not. So the Sharks hold the cards, and all Ferraro could do is hold out.

Playing hardball with Mario of all defensemen for this team is the dumbest move ever.

 

[stator]

Playing hardball with Mario of all defensemen for this team is the dumbest move ever.

DW is not above dumb moves like Eklund, misjudging goaltender talent, and some contracts, but young players are expecting the limitations on their negotiating power of RFAs. My guess is Ferraro will probably sign for $2.5m to $3m cap hit for 3 years.

Somebody should start a "next contract" thread for Ferraro rather than hijacking this one.

 

[one2gamble]

DW is not above dumb moves like Eklund

what was dumb about this?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

what was dumb about this?

I think he means the decision to send him back to Sweden.

 

[TheBeard]

I think he means the decision to send him back to Sweden.

Just because Ek whined about it doesn’t make it a bad move. He wasn’t seeing more time in the NHL this year and playing in Europe instead of the AHL isn’t gonna stunt his growth the way some people act like it’s going to.

 

[TheBeard]

DW is not above dumb moves like Eklund, misjudging goaltender talent, and some contracts, but young players are expecting the limitations on their negotiating power of RFAs. My guess is Ferraro will probably sign for $2.5m to $3m cap hit for 3 years.

Somebody should start a "next contract" thread for Ferraro rather than hijacking this one.

There’s about 5 elite goalies in the NHL which means the other 25 or so teams struggle with finding a quality goalie as much as we do. My guess with Mario is he’s closer to 4.