2021-2022 Regular Season Discussion Thread - Part 2
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I don't want to finish 7th, I think Calgary is more dangerous than Colorado.
Troy McClure
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I don’t agree. Colorado coasting into the playoffs shouldn’t be read as any sign of weakness.
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BG44
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Everyone seems to have selective amnesia. Am I doing it right?
Neither one is ideal, but it is interesting, curious, how much people are reading into a team that's locked up 1st place in the West a while ago.
Troy McClure
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Look out East. Tampa took off six weeks playing footsie with the competition. Now, in the past week, Tampa decided to start trying again and have been destroying teams.Everyone seems to have selective amnesia. Am I doing it right?
Neither one is ideal, but it is interesting, curious, how much people are reading into a team that's locked up 1st place in the West a while ago.
Did I ban him for too longEveryone seems to have selective amnesia. Am I doing it right?
Neither one is ideal, but it is interesting, curious, how much people are reading into a team that's locked up 1st place in the West a while ago.
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Calgary probably beats us within 5 games in those playoffs with a healthy Tkachuk and a bit less luck on that last second Pavelski goal. Their roster hasn't changed a ton since then, it's only gotten better really.
Neither CGY or COL are good matchups.
Neither CGY or COL are good matchups.
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I mean we also probably beat Calgary in 5 games if Bishop was healthy instead of having to use Khudobin.
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The Stars biggest issue compared to two years ago is how much worse their old core has gotten in just two years. Benn , Seguin , Klingberg and Radulov are nowhere near as good as two years ago and they already weren't that great that year either. Klingberg was amazing in the later playoff rounds though.
someone tell me why klinger gets so lackadaisical with the puck? it's almost as if when he has possession, he thinks the defenders will just concede that they can't take if from him, so they won't attack.
.... aaaaand there he's dispossessed again.
.... aaaaand there he's dispossessed again.
Stars notebook: Here’s how Dallas can pass Predators for West’s top wild-card spot
Here is a fun read. Way too much love for Faksa. Wish Bowness had the courage to admit he has no idea what he is doing. What terrible reasons to not play Robertson 4v4 and what an awful reason to allow Faksa on a shootout.
Here is a fun read. Way too much love for Faksa. Wish Bowness had the courage to admit he has no idea what he is doing. What terrible reasons to not play Robertson 4v4 and what an awful reason to allow Faksa on a shootout.
keep your best players on the bench, put the worst ones out to, 'surprise' the opponent. foolproof.
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I agree with most however Sequin is better than he was 2 years ago in that series. He can actually skate now.
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In the playoff sure but in the regular season prior to him getting injured ( i think it happened in like February 2020 he said ? ) he was of course better than what he is now.
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I don't think the old core is that much worse.
Benn I think is basically the same player now as he was 2 years ago.
- He was on pace for 46 points 2 years ago.
- He has 46 points this year, on pace for 47.
Klingberg I think is a bit worse but not that much.
- He was on pace for 45 points 2 years ago.
- He has 46 points this year, on pace for 51.
Seguin was better in the regular season 2 years ago but he was wrecked for the playoff run. He should be more useful this year.
Radulov deserves his healthy scratches, nuf said.
Overall, I think this team is better on paper than the team that played in the bubble simply because of Otter, Hintz and Robo. Otter is better now than bubble Dobby and Hintz and Robo are better now than the two best forwards from that playoff run except for Pavelski, but we still have him.
I'm not saying I expect much from this team in the playoffs though. Regardless of how they compare to the bubble team, they are an inferior team to both their potential first round opponents. But you never know what will happen, I sure as shit didn't expect a run to the finals 2 years ago.
Edit: If I f'ed up the simple math, please call me out.
Troy McClure
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Klingberg being casual with the puck is what lets him make the great plays he does. It's what lead to the pretty Robertson deflection. Sometimes him being casual ends up in turnover. Some of those turnovers end up as goals. Most of the time, his casual efforts work out for the better, but late in the game, he had several in a row.
Points wise maybe so but in terms of shot share metrics all three guys have seen big declines in even strength CF% numbers from 2019-20 to 2021-22.
Benn 51.3% -> 46.5%
Seguin 50.2% -> 47.5%
Klingberg 51.1% -> 49.8%
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Food for thought because it is so hotly debated. Does it matter if Dallas plays Colorado or Calgary if and when they clinch? Does it matter who they match up better against? Yes, but not for the reason that is being tossed around.
It's actually a fairly pointless debate about Colorado vs. Calgary, and I think I could prove it easily. It's almost impossible to imagine the team that makes it out of the Western Conference will not either be Colorado, Calgary, or a team that beat both of them. I'd be willing to bet a large amount of money that this statement will prove to be true. It's possible for sure that both Colorado and Calgary could get upset in Round 1 or 2, but I'd it's not likely. It's hard to imagine both juggernauts stumbling immediately. Again not impossible, but it seems improbable.
The path to the Stanley Cup for Minnesota, St. Louis, Edmonton, Los Angeles, Nashville, and hopefully Dallas will likely require those teams to play and defeat both Colorado and Calgary to get to the Stanley Cup.
So the only question left is would you rather, assuming you even get by Round 1, face the winner of Edmonton/Los Angeles or Minnesota/St. Louis. It's not even a debate. Zero question.
I don't think the Stars are going to win the Stanley Cup, and I'd definitely recommend saving your money betting for them to win against Calgary or Colorado in Round 1. That's not really what matters though. You want the easiest path to the Stanley Cup, and it's not even close that the Pacific path is one that is less daunting and more manageable than the Central.
Just because I'm realistic about their chances though about not having much of a fighting chance doesn't mean that I'm fully hoping for upsets. The moment they clinch ... total fanboyin'.
It's actually a fairly pointless debate about Colorado vs. Calgary, and I think I could prove it easily. It's almost impossible to imagine the team that makes it out of the Western Conference will not either be Colorado, Calgary, or a team that beat both of them. I'd be willing to bet a large amount of money that this statement will prove to be true. It's possible for sure that both Colorado and Calgary could get upset in Round 1 or 2, but I'd it's not likely. It's hard to imagine both juggernauts stumbling immediately. Again not impossible, but it seems improbable.
The path to the Stanley Cup for Minnesota, St. Louis, Edmonton, Los Angeles, Nashville, and hopefully Dallas will likely require those teams to play and defeat both Colorado and Calgary to get to the Stanley Cup.
So the only question left is would you rather, assuming you even get by Round 1, face the winner of Edmonton/Los Angeles or Minnesota/St. Louis. It's not even a debate. Zero question.
I don't think the Stars are going to win the Stanley Cup, and I'd definitely recommend saving your money betting for them to win against Calgary or Colorado in Round 1. That's not really what matters though. You want the easiest path to the Stanley Cup, and it's not even close that the Pacific path is one that is less daunting and more manageable than the Central.
Just because I'm realistic about their chances though about not having much of a fighting chance doesn't mean that I'm fully hoping for upsets. The moment they clinch ... total fanboyin'.
If they matchup against Calgary I'm gonna die inside the Saddledome
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