GDT: 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs ( General talk )

[The Kingslayer]

Cody Glass by Vegas. I remember he was really hyped up the year after they picked him. Does he still have that kind of hype?

Oh yah Glass. I thought he was a regular for them last year?

 

[Thepoolmaster]

Oh yah Glass. I thought he was a regular for them last year?

Yeah I just looked it up. 39GP with 12 points. Don't think he's playing in the bubble but maybe I just haven't noticed him.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Two teams have been destroyed by goaltending decisions: Calgary and Blues

I wouldn't say the BLose decision destroyed them. Their decision to go with Binnington won them a cup.

 

[McMetal]

It's really interesting to me to see which players have the ability to step it up in the playoffs. Not everybody can. A guy like Tkachuk, who oozes skill and power in the regular season, vanishes like smoke when the playoffs roll around. Meanwhile journeyman bottom sixer Tyler Motte drills in massive goals for his underdog team when they need a little extra. It's why I want to hold on to guys like Compher as long as possible, clutchness may not be something the statwhackers can quantify yet, but it's a real thing and it matters if you want to win championships.

 

[The Kingslayer]

It's really interesting to me to see which players have the ability to step it up in the playoffs. Not everybody can. A guy like Tkachuk, who oozes skill and power in the regular season, vanishes like smoke when the playoffs roll around. Meanwhile journeyman bottom sixer Tyler Motte drills in massive goals for his underdog team when they need a little extra. It's why I want to hold on to guys like Compher as long as possible, clutchness may not be something the statwhackers can quantify yet, but it's a real thing and it matters if you want to win championships.

Yup every championship team has had a foot soldier come through in the clutch. Remember the year Fernando Pisani had like 15 goals lol

 

[dahrougem2]

Now Blues fans shall call this playoffs illegitimate. Another group of losing fans join the naysayers!


Happy to see the Blues out, and don't mind this group of Canucks going through at all. Quite a few likeable players, and a lot of young talent -- Pettersson, Horvat, Boeser, Hughes. As long as their management doesn't mess it up and properly builds around them, they should be one of the challengers in the West for a while.

The Canucks are loaded with talent but they're also loaded with awful contracts, which is going to prevent them from being contenders for a while. Not only that, but they have very, very key free agents to re-sign without cap space.

Loui Eriksson still has 2 years left at 6M
Micheal Ferland still has 3 years left at 3.5M
Antoine Roussel still has 2 years left at 3M
Jay Beagle still has 2 years left at 3M
Tyler Myers still has 4 years left at 6M

Meanwhile, Jacob Markstrom, Chris Tanev, and Tyler Toffoli are all UFA's while Jake Virtanen, Tyler Motte, Troy Stetcher, and Adam Gaudette are all RFA's.

Markstrom only makes 3.6M now, he's going to need a raise. Ditto Tyler Toffoli and his 4.6M (although I don't think by much). Tyler Motte is playing his way into a nice raise, and Virtanen isn't going to settle for the 1.25M he's currently making.

Moves have to be made in Vancouver in order for that team to be successful long term, because none of those contracts I listed expire before Elias Pettersson needs a new deal and what is surely going to cost Vancouver 10+M.

 

[Iracundia]

The Canucks are loaded with talent but they're also loaded with awful contracts, which is going to prevent them from being contenders for a while. Not only that, but they have very, very key free agents to re-sign without cap space.

Loui Eriksson still has 2 years left at 6M
Micheal Ferland still has 3 years left at 3.5M
Antoine Roussel still has 2 years left at 3M
Jay Beagle still has 2 years left at 3M
Tyler Myers still has 4 years left at 6M

Meanwhile, Jacob Markstrom, Chris Tanev, and Tyler Toffoli are all UFA's while Jake Virtanen, Tyler Motte, Troy Stetcher, and Adam Gaudette are all RFA's.

Markstrom only makes 3.6M now, he's going to need a raise. Ditto Tyler Toffoli and his 4.6M (although I don't think by much). Tyler Motte is playing his way into a nice raise, and Virtanen isn't going to settle for the 1.25M he's currently making.

Moves have to be made in Vancouver in order for that team to be successful long term, because none of those contracts I listed expire before Elias Pettersson needs a new deal and what is surely going to cost Vancouver 10+M.

Don't forget about Lou's 3.0M recapture for 2 more seasons

 

[klozge]

Loving what the Canucks are doing in these playoffs. Really, really cool.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Vancouver's core younsters are playing great and that is massive going forward.

I don't think the Canucks are built particularly well with a bunch of crap contracts among other things.

However, knowing that your top guys can bring it when it matters is huge. A ton of teams have a core that will melt like ice cream on the dunes of the Sahara once they get to a must win game.

 

[dahrougem2]

Vancouver's core younsters are playing great and that is massive going forward.

I don't think the Canucks are built particularly well with a bunch of crap contracts among other things.

However, knowing that your top guys can bring it when it matters is huge. A ton of teams have a core that will melt like ice cream on the dunes of the Sahara once they get to a must win game.

You could have been more blunt: this is the Toronto Maple Leafs and Calgary Flames lol

 

[John Mandalorian]

You could have been more blunt: this is the Toronto Maple Leafs and Calgary Flames lol

I enjoyed his editorial decision to make ice cream and the dunes of the Sahara the headliners.

 

[ArWKo]

Always happy to see the Blues go down but boy as if Canucks fans aren’t already insufferable enough, now that they’ve won a round and their team is a contender it’s going to just get worse and worse.

That said I quite enjoy watching that Canucks team and love the core they’ve put together. Hopefully for their sake Benning can do something about those albatross contracts for their bottom sixers so they can keep getting better.

 

[Ceremony]

Not bad...

Strong Nate Guenin energy from Pietrangelo here. Embarrassing.

 

[Metallo]

Yup every championship team has had a foot soldier come through in the clutch. Remember the year Fernando Pisani had like 15 goals lol

Yes 14 goals, just like John Druce.

Here is an interesting article on unlikely heroes:
Unlikely heroes leave the most indelible marks on NHL playoffs

 

[AvsCOL]

Gotta love the Blues falling flat on their faces

 

[TruePowerSlave]

I wonder what happens with Pietro. If he leaves the Blues take a major step backwards. However, he probably is demanding an extension that will look ugly in the not too distant future.

Allowing your #1D get this close to UFA and potentially walk for nothing was an awful decision.

 

[Metallo]

I wonder what happens with Pietro. If he leaves the Blues take a major step backwards. However, he probably is demanding an extension that will look ugly in the not too distant future.

Allowing your #1D get this close to UFA and potentially walk for nothing was an awful decision.

Too many GMs bank on unsustainable cap growth to save their asses. Any stalling of that growth wrecks their plans.

 

[Hasbro]

Always happy to see the Blues go down but boy as if Canucks fans aren’t already insufferable enough, now that they’ve won a round and their team is a contender it’s going to just get worse and worse.

That said I quite enjoy watching that Canucks team and love the core they’ve put together. Hopefully for their sake Benning can do something about those albatross contracts for their bottom sixers so they can keep getting better.

They’ve never been sufferable

 

[Hasbro]

If they lose Petro they’ll have to fight and claw just to make the playoffs imo.

They should absolutely pay to clear space for him or else they are pretty much conceding the Central to the Avalanche starting next year.

 

[Chiarelli]

Blues are toast.

Short window
Aging core
Salary cap issues
Garbage goalies

I kept waiting for the clock to strike midnight on binnington last season and it never happened but it seems he has been figured out. Fun while it lasted... One less thing to worry about in the central

 

[dahrougem2]

I think the only way Pietrangelo stays is if the Blues convince a team to take one of Allen/Binnington for literally nothing, and then convince Vince Dunn to take a short bridge deal that's hardly a raise from his current salary.

Call me a pessimist, I don't see that happening.

 

[Islay1989]

Speaking of Vince Dunn, half of their board wants him catapulted to the moon. He and Faulk are real popular there.

 

[dahrougem2]

Speaking of Vince Dunn, half of their board wants him catapulted to the moon. He and Faulk are real popular there.

He was downright horrendous this playoff season. Justin Faulk I understand, because he's never been very good yet he's somehow convinced GM's to pay him big money and convinced coaches to give him top-4 minutes.

Vince Dunn isn't supposed to look as bad as he did, but he did. So there's some worry on their part about giving him big money, too.

 

[Hasbro]

Now Blues fans shall call this playoffs illegitimate. Another group of losing fans join the naysayers!


Happy to see the Blues out, and don't mind this group of Canucks going through at all. Quite a few likeable players, and a lot of young talent -- Pettersson, Horvat, Boeser, Hughes. As long as their management doesn't mess it up and properly builds around them, they should be one of the challengers in the West for a while.

I hope the Avalanche win and this Corona Cup narrative persists to motivate them for a repeat.

 

[Hasbro]

I hope the Canucks beat Vegas... because those weasels are about 16 years overdue for a beat down at the hands of the Avalanche.