2020 Offseason Thread Part VIII

[BritainStix]

Who cares if the players get infected? They are all young, fit, & at no more risk from Covid than they are the regular flu. What pro athlete has had serious complications after testing positive?

Oh shut the f*** up.

How many times do idiots like you have to be told how serious this virus is? It's not regular flu, it's can enduce pneumonia from as little as 3 days after infection, effectively shutting down your entire system.

Are you a doctor? A nurse? Medical scientist? No?? Then stop spreading miss-information you ignorant fool. Millions of people are dying. Learn to process information!

And yes I'll take my infraction or my ban in the hope that no one listens to bullshit statementd like this. We have even lost several members of this forum to the pandemic.

Signed
Everyone working in a medical field

 

[dingbathero]

Who cares if the players get infected? They are all young, fit, & at no more risk from Covid than they are the regular flu. What pro athlete has had serious complications after testing positive?

If this is in jest.

It is poorly done.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Oh shut the f*** up.

How many times do idiots like you have to be told how serious this virus is? It's not regular flu, it's can enduce pneumonia from as little as 3 days after infection, effectively shutting down your entire system.

Are you a doctor? A nurse? Medical scientist? No?? Then stop spreading miss-information you ignorant fool. Millions of people are dying. Learn to process information!

And yes I'll take my infraction or my ban in the hope that no one listens to bullshit statementd like this. We have even lost several members of this forum to the pandemic.

Signed
Everyone working in a medical field

LMAO. Get off of your throne. I said that for “pro athletes” the risk is virtually the same as the seasonal flu. That’s absolutely correct. Stop conflating pro athletes with the elderly, obese, & ill.

I guarantee the vast majority of pro athletes just want to play. They know they are at minimal risk.

 

[ajgoal]

Who cares if the players get infected? They are all young, fit, & at no more risk from Covid than they are the regular flu. What pro athlete has had serious complications after testing positive?

Red Sox's Eduardo Rodriguez cleared after COVID-related heart issue

 

[BritainStix]

LMAO. Get off of your throne. I said that for “pro athletes” the risk is virtually the same as the seasonal flu. That’s absolutely correct. Stop conflating pro athletes with the elderly, obese, & ill.

I guarantee the vast majority of pro athletes just want to play. They know they are at minimal risk.

Since you are throwing around absolutely unfounded claims, start posting your evidence from recognised medical professionals.

As a second note, this isn't just about the players you absolute cretin, the NHL requires physios, bench staff, management, refs, camera crew, media, event staff. They all have families, some with relatives who are high risk. Cancer patients, serious illness or disease, children with medical issues. If any of them were to contract the illness, they are as good as gone. Why are their lives worth less than yours?

1.41 million dead worldwide, average seasonal flu kills roughly 600k in a bad year. Some places are entering the second wave now. There are hospitals in Italy choosing who to save and who dies. Those are FACTS.

The vast majority of players probably want to play, good for them. That has no bearing on the players who are hesitant. "Who cares about the players" sums you up as a human being.

I'll get off my high horse when people like you stop downplaying this situation. When I don't have to watch my exausted relatives break down, with bruising from PPE across their face after working 12 hour shifts on wards.

 

[deadhead]

LMAO. Get off of your throne. I said that for “pro athletes” the risk is virtually the same as the seasonal flu. That’s absolutely correct. Stop conflating pro athletes with the elderly, obese, & ill.

I guarantee the vast majority of pro athletes just want to play. They know they are at minimal risk.

Actually, no one knows what the risk is, other than short-term mortality. So far the rate of infection among professional athletes is low because they have strong incentives to avoid infection, which is why college athletes seem to get infected at much higher rates.

Problem is many of the impacts of a COVID infection won't be known for decades as population cohort studies are completed and long-term impacts can be evaluated.

Anyone who compares the coronavirus with a flu is an idiot, though even a flu should not be considered a trivial infection,

Long term outcomes in survivors of epidemic Influenza A (H7N9) virus infection
https://www.jneurosci.org/content/38/12/3060

the potential but still unknown impacts of COVID are far greater, due to its impact across multiple organs throughout the body, including the brain. And these impacts are found not just in vulnerable populations but among healthy individuals.

These Athletes Had the Coronavirus. Will They Ever Be the Same?
A closer look at COVID-19 and heart complications among athletes
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...e-big-ten-athletes-diagnosed-with-myocarditis

 

[Starat327]

IF
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DONT
FEED
IT
IT
STARVES

 

[Curufinwe]

Downplaying Covid in March and April was lame. Doing it now is a sign of psychosis.

 

[Appleyard]

Since you are throwing around absolutely unfounded claims, start posting your evidence from recognised medical professionals.

As a second note, this isn't just about the players you absolute cretin, the NHL requires physios, bench staff, management, refs, camera crew, media, event staff. They all have families, some with relatives who are high risk. Cancer patients, serious illness or disease, children with medical issues. If any of them were to contract the illness, they are as good as gone. Why are their lives worth less than yours?

1.41 million dead worldwide, average seasonal flu kills roughly 600k in a bad year. Some places are entering the second wave now. There are hospitals in Italy choosing who to save and who dies. Those are FACTS.

The vast majority of players probably want to play, good for them. That has no bearing on the players who are hesitant. "Who cares about the players" sums you up as a human being.

I'll get off my high horse when people like you stop downplaying this situation. When I don't have to watch my exausted relatives break down, with bruising from PPE across their face after working 12 hour shifts on wards.

A KHL GM died... for example. (Rubtsovs GM at Sochi)
A Czech coach (albeit with other health concerns) died after getting COVID too. Albeit I dont think it was "the" cause of death.

A couple KHL players have been in ICU with double pneumonia as a result.
I also know a few SHLers had it in summer, are playing again, and still dont "feel right" months later.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Since you are throwing around absolutely unfounded claims, start posting your evidence from recognised medical professionals.

As a second note, this isn't just about the players you absolute cretin, the NHL requires physios, bench staff, management, refs, camera crew, media, event staff. They all have families, some with relatives who are high risk. Cancer patients, serious illness or disease, children with medical issues. If any of them were to contract the illness, they are as good as gone. Why are their lives worth less than yours?

1.41 million dead worldwide, average seasonal flu kills roughly 600k in a bad year. Some places are entering the second wave now. There are hospitals in Italy choosing who to save and who dies. Those are FACTS.

The vast majority of players probably want to play, good for them. That has no bearing on the players who are hesitant. "Who cares about the players" sums you up as a human being.

I'll get off my high horse when people like you stop downplaying this situation. When I don't have to watch my exausted relatives break down, with bruising from PPE across their face after working 12 hour shifts on wards.

Yeah, just shut the entire world down for a virus with a death rate of virtually ZERO for those under age 50. That’s reasonable. Ignore all of the ancillary damage caused by lockdowns. The ONLY thing that matters is stopping people from contracting COVID at ALL COSTS. It’s the only issue that matters.

 

[deadhead]

Yeah, just shut the entire world down for a virus with a death rate of virtually ZERO for those under age 50. That’s reasonable. Ignore all of the ancillary damage caused by lockdowns. The ONLY thing that matters is stopping people from contracting COVID at ALL COSTS. It’s the only issue that matters.

No one has suggested shutting down the world.

Closing the bars for six more months is not going to cause massive ancillary damage, it will hurt certain businesses and their employees, but by the end of next year, bar startups will be the hottest item in the economy once vaccination is widespread (party like it's 2022). Same with sports, live music, etc. Working at home has turned out to have little or no impact on worker productivity where feasible. And the long-term effect may be to increase efficiency and lower carbon footprints by decentralizing economic activity.

Mask mandates don't cause ancillary damage, other than to idiots who think "freedom" means the right to endanger their fellow citizens (invoke "stand your ground" and your 2nd amendment rights, folks!).

Virus hotspots cause more damage by overwhelming hospitals and the health system, and they hit the same establishments as lockdowns by scaring off the majority of customers.

We're talking about 6-9 more months until vaccinations reach "herd immunity" levels. If people would just follow guidelines we can save 100+K of lives before that point is reached. What we need are more video of people dying in ICUs and athletes struggling to get out of bed - 9/11 "porn" mobilized the country, maybe we need COVID "porn" (dramatic video) - we were ready to go to war over 3,000 deaths, we can't wear a mask over 300K deaths?

 

[Appleyard]

Funnily enough Sweden's economy has suffered more than Denmark, Norway and Finland...

with 5-10x the death rates.

Sweden's GDP slumped 8.6% in Q2, more sharply than its neighbors despite its no-lockdown policy

Economic recovery from coronavirus: Nordics lead the way

The Nordic countries’ different approaches to covid-19 will continue

 

[Rebels57]

Downplaying Covid in March and April was lame. Doing it now is a sign of psychosis.

It's absolutely f***ing pathetic.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Yay! Two Covid threads!

 

[Starat327]

Yay! Two Covid threads!

2 is always better than 1!

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Since you are throwing around absolutely unfounded claims, start posting your evidence from recognised medical professionals.

As a second note, this isn't just about the players you absolute cretin, the NHL requires physios, bench staff, management, refs, camera crew, media, event staff. They all have families, some with relatives who are high risk. Cancer patients, serious illness or disease, children with medical issues. If any of them were to contract the illness, they are as good as gone. Why are their lives worth less than yours?

1.41 million dead worldwide, average seasonal flu kills roughly 600k in a bad year. Some places are entering the second wave now. There are hospitals in Italy choosing who to save and who dies. Those are FACTS.

The vast majority of players probably want to play, good for them. That has no bearing on the players who are hesitant. "Who cares about the players" sums you up as a human being.

I'll get off my high horse when people like you stop downplaying this situation. When I don't have to watch my exausted relatives break down, with bruising from PPE across their face after working 12 hour shifts on wards.

There are plenty of “experts” who disagree with wide-scale lockdowns & the Covid mass hysteria. They just get censored or ignored by most mainstream media outlets for refusing to tow the party line.

Opinion | Epidemiologists Stray From the Covid Herd

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

2 is always better than 1!

I prefer none in this situation.

 

[CapnZin]

Yeah, just shut the entire world down for a virus with a death rate of virtually ZERO for those under age 50. That’s reasonable. Ignore all of the ancillary damage caused by lockdowns. The ONLY thing that matters is stopping people from contracting COVID at ALL COSTS. It’s the only issue that matters.

Law of large numbers, sir. The world population can be in harms way (~7,700,000,000 people) and an effective .01% mortality rate could potentially kill 77 million people world wide. That’s not anything to take lightly. Sad to see someone say stuff like this.

 

[Starat327]

I prefer none in this situation.

What if we could make PS5s duplicate like Corona threads?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

What if we could make PS5s duplicate like Corona threads?

Every time there’s a covid thread a scalper gets a PS5.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

how is this topic back again..?

wether u believe or not, your not changing the other sides mind, anymore then you are if it were a political/religion topic...

 

[mdm815]

As of last week just under 19k ppl aged 15-54 had died. That’s six 9/11’s, or to frame it for certain members of this board, imagine a sold out WFC getting taken out.

There were 38 million cases of the flu during the 2019-20 season. They are forecasting 40 million new cases of covid between Thanksgiving and January.

All of this is to say; this is nothing like the flu.

 

[captainpaxil]

The best thing about bubble hockey was the break from plague, riots and the death of american democracy. Can we please keep that stuff to the coronavirus thread.

Any word on myers contract or if Gordon is coming back to the ahl?

 

[Ghosts Beer]

All of this is to say; this is nothing like the flu.

It is for professional athletes, which was the limited scope of my point.

 

[mdm815]

It is for professional athletes, which was the limited scope of my point.

Ok to step into your logic, many athletes are reporting only being at 90% weeks after (with no understanding of when/if they’ll get to 100), and in leagues where losing even a fraction of step get you benched, that would seem like a problem.