Management 2020 Off-Season Proposals , trade, sign, kick to curb IV

[BigBadBruins7708]

That tells you all you need to know about Hall's desire or effort he wants to put into it

Buffalo let's him float like he always does with no consequences. No expectations it pressure to win. No accountability. Perfect for that loser.

A player doesn't magically play for terrible teams and 5 1st overall picks across 3 franchises because of "bad luck"

 

[maxl7]

That tells you all you need to know about Hall's desire or effort he wants to put into it

Buffalo let's him float like he always does with no consequences. No expectations it pressure to win. No accountability. Perfect for that loser.

A player doesn't magically play for terrible teams and 5 1st overall picks across 3 franchises because of "bad luck"

Stop. Yes, it sucks that he didn't choose Boston, but he clearly has an affinity for Ralph Krueger. If he didn't care that much, he could have cashed in on a 7 year deal and spent the rest of his career floating, as you say. He clearly (wrongly) thinks Buffalo has a chance to win with Krueger.

 

[Johnny4778]

Nate Schmidt apparently not going to Florida?

 

[maxl7]

Wonder if Winnipeg was able to bump up their offer at the last minute or something.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Stop. Yes, it sucks that he didn't choose Boston, but he clearly has an affinity for Ralph Krueger. If he didn't care that much, he could have cashed in on a 7 year deal and spent the rest of his career floating, as you say. He clearly (wrongly) thinks Buffalo has a chance to win with Krueger.

Buffalo should be legit now. Franchise young C and D already...

 

[BruinDust]

Stop. Yes, it sucks that he didn't choose Boston, but he clearly has an affinity for Ralph Krueger. If he didn't care that much, he could have cashed in on a 7 year deal and spent the rest of his career floating, as you say. He clearly (wrongly) thinks Buffalo has a chance to win with Krueger.

Has nothing to do with that. He'll go to Buffalo, with a coach he has sway, see a big bump in his numbers playing alongside Eichel and likely PP and PK duty.

Then he'll either sucker in the Pegula's to hand him a 8-year, 80 million dollar deal (heck Jeff Skinner convinced them to part with $72 million), or he'll use his better numbers to convince some other sucker owner/GM to give him 10 million per for 7 years.

 

[TCB]

Buffalo should be legit now. Franchise young C and D already...

Don't count on it.

 

[RiverbottomChuck]

If we get Schmidt that would really enhance our performance no?

 

[kdog82]

If we get Schmidt that would really enhance our performance no?

Bruins aren't getting him. Sweeney sleeping.

 

[maxl7]

Has nothing to do with that. He'll go to Buffalo, with a coach he has sway, see a big bump in his numbers playing alongside Eichel and likely PP and PK duty.

Then he'll either sucker in the Pegula's to hand him a 8-year, 80 million dollar deal (heck Jeff Skinner convinced them to part with $72 million), or he'll use his better numbers to convince some other sucker owner/GM to give him 10 million per for 7 years.

Maybe. Anybody he signed with would have given him that cushy spot to rack up points, though. Maybe the Sabres beat everyone else on money. Hopefully we get some more behind the scenes details on who offered him what.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

So what do we need to add? Basically they are getting AP + Krejci + RD depth for Karlsson (legit #2) and a $7M dump to get AP as a N°1 not having to trade away the rest. Creates a hole in C beyond next year for sure. Jut thinking outside the box as the way the B's are built right now there is no way to keep the "roll 4 lines" depth and have a decent D so either they need to stack the top 6 and top 4 and change their mindset to match a checking / grit bottom 6, or accept there are going to be very unfortunate matchups on the bottm 6 and 3rd pairing that will expose them in a long playoff run.

My point is they won't dump Karlsson for exact reason we would want him. Especially not to "upgrade" with an older, signed for one year Krejci.

They would add picks or prospects just to Fleury to dump him. So they'd keep Karlsson, dump Fleury+ futures and add AP.

We aren't a good trading match for dumping salary.

 

[RiverbottomChuck]

Bruins aren't getting him. Sweeney sleeping.

I sadly agree lol

 

[BruinDust]

Maybe. Anybody he signed with would have given him that cushy spot to rack up points, though. Maybe the Sabres beat everyone else on money. Hopefully we get some more behind the scenes details on who offered him what.

Boston couldn't promise him that. Not with Marchand and Pastrnak here. He wasn't even guaranteed 1st unit PP duty here. And he wasn't getting to play with a center with the offensive capability of Eichel.

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

Hall to Buffalo is purely to get his money, pad his stats for a season playing alongside Eichel, and then go back to UFA next year to hopefully get a big long term deal. That guy is a puke and I'm glad he isn't going to be on this team.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Wtf... Step away from HF for a few hours. And Hall signs with... Buffalo??? Wtf

 

[Ned Bouhalassa]

FWIW, I've a feeling he may the kind of guy that doesn't like that attention from a big market city. It can't just be the money, he's already got lots of that.

 

[maxl7]

Boston couldn't promise him that. Not with Marchand and Pastrnak here. He wasn't even guaranteed 1st unit PP duty here. And he wasn't getting to play with a center with the offensive capability of Eichel.

Depends on how they restructure their PP with Krug gone.

 

[BruinDust]

Depends on how they restructure their PP with Krug gone.

Well neither Hall nor Marchand were about to take over at the top of the umbrella, and I'd be very surprised if they change their structure given it's success, even without Krug.

Personally I don't think the conversation ever got that deep. He knows Krueger will let him play all-out offense without having to worry about his defensive play, rack up 90-95 points, and cash in.

 

[Pay Carl]

If we get Schmidt that would really enhance our performance no?

yeah, I would be raging if they trade Debrusk for him though

 

[maxl7]

Well neither Hall nor Marchand were about to take over at the top of the umbrella, and I'd be very surprised if they change their structure given it's success, even without Krug.

Personally I don't think the conversation ever got that deep. He knows Krueger will let him play all-out offense without having to worry about his defensive play, rack up 90-95 points, and cash in.

Well, again, they might go with a totally different PP structure. Even so, Hall could play halfwall. Also, Hall's defensive play is just fine. This just reads like sour grapes because Boston lost out.

 

[BruinDust]

Well, again, they might go with a totally different PP structure. Even so, Hall could play halfwall. Also, Hall's defensive play is just fine. This just reads like sour grapes because Boston lost out.

I'm being straight up honest when I say I was never a Taylor Hall fan and didn't care one way or the other if he signed in Boston. I've always believed the rumors he was a $%&^*&ty teammate were true. Some have sour grapes over this but I can say with all certainty I'm not one of them. I actually find the whole thing hilarious.

 

[PB37]

I always feel Buffalo is *that* close to being a playoff contender, but then they go and screw it up.

Hall is a big step in the right direction for them, but they still need a goaltender and a better 2nd pair on their blueline.

 

[Mione134]

Wtf... Step away from HF for a few hours. And Hall signs with... Buffalo??? Wtf

Imagine being ON here when it happened.

Oof. It was a riiiiiiiiide

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

Has nothing to do with that. He'll go to Buffalo, with a coach he has sway, see a big bump in his numbers playing alongside Eichel and likely PP and PK duty.

Then he'll either sucker in the Pegula's to hand him a 8-year, 80 million dollar deal (heck Jeff Skinner convinced them to part with $72 million), or he'll use his better numbers to convince some other sucker owner/GM to give him 10 million per for 7 years.

Yep. As GW says, “It’s always about the money.” TH probably ain’t had much learnin’...

His agents/money men sold this to him. It all makes perfect sense.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Just spitballing here. If Hall signs trade Bjork with Moore to a team for a draft pick. I’m sure somebody would take this deal. Than trade Ritchie and Vaakanainen to Vegas for Nate Schmidt.

try to re-sign both DeBrusk and Grzelcyk

not sure if there is enough money to make this work but the lines for me would look like this:

Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
Hall-Krejci-Kase
DeBrusk-Coyle-Smith
Kuraly-Studnicka-Wagner

Studnicka gets worked in as a centre and ready for 2nd/3rd line duties when Krejci walks as a UFA.

Schmidt-McAvoy
Grzelcyk-Carlo
Chara-Lauzon/Clifton
Zboril

sadly... way over budget... I will say I like the lineup though