2020 NHL Draft Thread: Who knows how many more days until this year's hockey tryouts? - Part III

[grN1g]

Outside of size issues what about Rossi’s game won’t translate to the nhl?

Nothing hes the next Austrian Jesus

 

[Legegendsofthenorth]

Outside of size issues what about Rossi’s game won’t translate to the nhl?

In the regular season size usually isnt an issue. Often it does in the post season.

 

[57special]

The next Vanek?

 

[2Pair]

The next Vanek?

Who or what are you talking about?

 

[DeagleJenkins]

In the regular season size usually isnt an issue. Often it does in the post season.

Yes size comes in big in the playoffs but it’s not an end all be all. If it’s simply size holding him back and the rest is great or elite take him. Size can be very overrated see greenway.

 

[AJ Thelen]

5 or 6? Let’s hope that happens.

 

[AKL]

I wouldn't take Lapierre until the third round, and we don't have a third rounder.

I really hope a team takes Askarov 5-8. I really hope.

 

[AJ Thelen]

I wouldn't take Lapierre until the third round, and we don't have a third rounder.

I really hope a team takes Askarov 5-8. I really hope.

If he keeps up this level of play i think he will.

 

[TaLoN]

5 or 6? Let’s hope that happens.
https://twitter.com/thetonyferrari/status/1307716419698585600?s=21

Would be AWESOME if he's gone at 5 or 6! We couldn't ask for a better thing in the realm of realistic possibilities.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

In Pronman’s latest “beat-writer mock draft” Russo selected Lundell for us at 9th overall. Pronman polled 15 NHL scouts to get reactions of the 1st round and this was the consensus of our Lundell selection:

“The panel of scouts pushed back on Lundell at No. 9. Even those who were advocates of Lundell felt that was slightly too high for what he projects out as“

Article: NHL staff mock draft 2020: Changes in the top three, plus an audit by NHL scouts

 

[Bazeek]

In Pronman’s latest “beat-writer mock draft” Russo selected Lundell for us at 9th overall. Pronman polled 15 NHL scouts to get reactions of the 1st round and this was the consensus of our Lundell selection:

Article: NHL staff mock draft 2020: Changes in the top three, plus an audit by NHL scouts

Considering how the first 8 went you'd probably get the same reaction regardless of who you took, except maybe Sanderson.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

In Pronman’s latest “beat-writer mock draft” Russo selected Lundell for us at 9th overall. Pronman polled 15 NHL scouts to get reactions of the 1st round and this was the consensus of our Lundell selection:

Article: NHL staff mock draft 2020: Changes in the top three, plus an audit by NHL scouts

not sure why it needs push back, Lundell is gonna be our next 1C!! (fingers crossed)

 

[Engebretson]

Considering how the first 8 went you'd probably get the same reaction regardless of who you took, except maybe Sanderson.

Feels like the 2006 draft when I was hoping for one of the guys who ended up going 1-8 and we ended up with James "Popcorn Aficionado" Sheppard.

Also, if that's how 1-8 go, I'm good with taking Sanderson. The Jets are right behind us and I can't imagine he'll drop past them. Taking Sanderson to get a blue-chip LHD while also disappointing the Jets seems like a win/win to me.

 

[2Pair]

Feels like the 2006 draft when I was hoping for one of the guys who ended up going 1-8 and we ended up with James "Popcorn Aficionado" Sheppard.

Also, if that's how 1-8 go, I'm good with taking Sanderson. The Jets are right behind us and I can't imagine he'll drop past them. Taking Sanderson to get a blue-chip LHD while also disappointing the Jets seems like a win/win to me.

Can't imagine that the Jets would be too disappointed to have Lundell as their 2C behind Scheifele

 

[Wild11MN]

What is the expectation for Lundell as far as NHL-readiness at this point? One year out or more?

 

[grN1g]

What is the expectation for Lundell as far as NHL-readiness at this point? One year out or more?

Id say 1 or 2. It would probably be best for us to let him develope offense in the SEL playing top minutes longer than just this season if we picked him.

 

[MuckOG]

What is the expectation for Lundell as far as NHL-readiness at this point? One year out or more?

I would guess he's a year out. It appears he already has the size and smarts, but he's probably not ready to step right into a NHL line-up.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Here’s Wheeler’s recent evaluation of Rossi with a quote from Rossi’s coach:

3. Marco Rossi — C, Ottawa 67’s, 5-foot-9

Rossi was busy this summer. He skated with the ZSC Lions. He skated privately with Rob Schremp. He got fully healthy for the first time in a while and worked harder than ever in the gym. And now he has decided against signing in Europe, despite considerable interest, because he, his family, and his agent Serge Payer believe he’s going to make his NHL club this winter. Rossi has also reached agreements to practice with the EBEL’s Graz99ers and their head coach Doug Mason, as well as the DEL’s Straubing Tigers and their head coach Tom Pokel.
I don’t know how much more I can say about Rossi. He’s not far off from my idea of a perfect hockey player. He can break teams down through seams, he can beat defenders one-on-one both off the cycle (with strength) and the rush (with finesse and touch). He can score with his release or his hands and footwork. He plays in the middle of the ice but knows when to take the outside lane. And he’s the best defensive forward in the draft. Some evaluators point to his height and question whether he’ll stick at centre, his natural position. Others question his late birthday and dominant Ottawa 67’s team for the effect they had on his remarkable production. And while the latter has some effect on my evaluation, the former is lazy and doesn’t account for how strong he is or the way his low centre of gravity in his stance helps him fight off bigger defenders. He’s also one of the most determined, focused prospects I’ve ever interacted with and is probably the most NHL-ready player in the draft after Lafreniere, so the team that selects him is potentially getting an impact player from Day 1.
I always come back to Ottawa 67’s general manager James Boyd telling me this about Rossi:
“He’s a phenomenal player. Phenomenal. A few teams that have picked up on it. I’m biased but I think he’s the best player in our league. It’s not often you’ve got a player on your team who is the best offensive player, the best defensive player, the best guy on faceoffs, the best guy on the power play, the best guy on the penalty kill and probably your No. 1 shootout shooter. And the thing is he doesn’t cheat, so as the game goes along, he takes over. The No. 1 thing for me is his skating — which was a concern for some people — is phenomenal. Some guys are interested in getting better, he’s obsessed. If I told him to eat a pound of sunflower seeds every day because it would help him get to the NHL, he’d be right on it. It’s only going to continue. You hear this sort of stuff about Sidney Crosby or Shea Weber when they were juniors, it’s almost like a disorder, the striving to get better. I see the same thing in Marco. Nothing’s going to stop him.”

Wheeler: Wheeler: Updated ranking for the 2020 NHL Draft’s top 100 prospects

 

[Nsjohnson]

Here’s Wheeler’s recent evaluation of Rossi with a quote from Rossi’s coach:

Wheeler: Wheeler: Updated ranking for the 2020 NHL Draft’s top 100 prospects

Yeah I saw Wheeler's too. Crazy to see him rank Stuztle so low.

Perfetti got the rise I thought he may. Crazy talent.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Here’s Wheeler’s recent evaluation of Rossi with a quote from Rossi’s coach:

Wheeler: Wheeler: Updated ranking for the 2020 NHL Draft’s top 100 prospects

he sounds like a monster. we shall see, is it october yet??

 

[grN1g]

Trading up with Detroit and overpaying and praying to God Ottawa passes him on 3 is our likely only chance at landing rossi.

I'm fully expecting OTT to take him at 3 regardless which means idk if we really can trade up for him.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Trading up with Detroit and overpaying and praying to God Ottawa passes him on 3 is our likely only chance at landing rossi.

I'm fully expecting OTT to take him at 3 regardless which means idk if we really can trade up for him.

You think they take him over stutzle or Byfield??

 

[57special]

A perfect hockey player that doesn't have speed or size?

The NCAA and even more, AHL are a big jump up in speed and strength. The NHL yet another big jump. I wonder what a guy who has, maybe, slightly above average speed and below average size in the CHL is going to do in the NHL. How do you get away from checks, or get any room at all to operate? Are you really going to be able to defend deep in the D zone as a C needs to in the NHL?

A coach giving a rave review about one of his players? Shocker!

It's not impossible for a small player to star in the NHL, but if you don't have speed, acceleration, and exceptional skating it's a lot harder. Spurgeon is relatively tiny, but he always had good wheels.

Would I take him at #9? Probably...him expecting to go straight into the NHL as a C is crazy talk, though. Look at how much difficulty Hughes had last year, and he is an exceptional skater.

 

[thestonedkoala]

You think they take him over stutzle or Byfield??

I agree; they won't take him over Stutzle or Byfield, though I'm going to laugh if they don't take him 5th. Grab Drysdale.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

I agree; they won't take him over Stutzle or Byfield, though I'm going to laugh if they don't take him 5th. Grab Drysdale.

I don’t think Ottawa touches him and I see him going 6th at the earliest but more likely 7th. He may be good yes but I’d put Drysdale ahead of him simply because of the change occurring towards star 1D and he is a right handed one at that.