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A few spots still keeps us in the same quality zone. Depends what we get for it but I would prefer not to trade down unless we get another 1st or an upgrade of 27.
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Madden mentioned something about being more likely to trade down than up in the last Q&A on their site.
Buffalo:
8th
Cozens
Anaheim:
6th
Rakell
If the can get Sanderson at 8 I would totally be fine with that.
This is actually an interesting offer. I can see benefit to Buffalo with this but there has to be a player they really like at #6 to consider it. I do not know what they want and not, but I imagine they would not be willing to part with Cozens easily.
However, yeah this would be intriguing for us.
The Duck Knight
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Depends how far we're talking. 6 to 8? Sure pick up an extra asset. Anything more than that gets pretty iffy for me.
The Mighty Duck Man
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''We look to move down more often than we look to move up.''
NHL Draft Primer with Ducks Assistant General Manager Madden
Ya I think this is just standard for the Ducks.
Hindsight is 20/20, but I don;t have a problem with them trading down considering the Ducks thinking there is a clear top group.
Smirnov2Chistov
EEK!
If they can acquire another asset for moving down - even if it's two or three spots I'm all for it.
Might be something like that. I haven't been following prospects this year, just following this thread. Seems like people here are really keen on: Rossi, Drydale, Sanderson, and possibly Holtz
If Anaheim is open to trading down, my guess is GMBM and Madden covet Holtz. Minnesota's GM Guerin is known to want a center in return for Dumba. Consider this scenario:
NYR - Lafreniere
LAK - Byfield
OTT - Stutzle
DET - Perfetti
OTT - Raymond
Players still available would include Rossi, Drysdale, Sanderson, Holtz, etc. Perhaps Anaheim values Dumba + Holtz (selected at Minnesota's 9th overall) over 6th + whatever add would be required by Guerin. Minnesota would have to be very bullish on Rossi (compared to Lundell, who's the next best center) for this to make sense.
Obviously next season's expansion draft would have to be considered. I also don't know how significant the + would need to be from Anaheim. Maybe Lundestrom? I don't think he alone gets it done.
NYR - Lafreniere
LAK - Byfield
OTT - Stutzle
DET - Perfetti
OTT - Raymond
Players still available would include Rossi, Drysdale, Sanderson, Holtz, etc. Perhaps Anaheim values Dumba + Holtz (selected at Minnesota's 9th overall) over 6th + whatever add would be required by Guerin. Minnesota would have to be very bullish on Rossi (compared to Lundell, who's the next best center) for this to make sense.
Obviously next season's expansion draft would have to be considered. I also don't know how significant the + would need to be from Anaheim. Maybe Lundestrom? I don't think he alone gets it done.
AngelDuck
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Well if they really do want Holtz then trading down is the best thing to do.
My issue is that I think Rossi is such a tier ahead of Holtz that it’s going to be a mistake. But obviously we’re all just guessing and the ducks know more about these players than we do
My issue is that I think Rossi is such a tier ahead of Holtz that it’s going to be a mistake. But obviously we’re all just guessing and the ducks know more about these players than we do
WhatTheDuck
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My thoughts exactly, the comment likely wasn't much worth reading into at all. They are willing to potentially move down from any pick depending on how things play out.
The safe money is that they end up picking at six, getting a player they had ranked from third to sixth overall. Don't often see much movement in that early in the draft.
The Mighty Duck Man
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You don't trade down to target a guy already in range of your pick. Now maybe they see 4 through whatever as pretty interchangeable so they'd rather pick 8th or 10th and get something extra, but if there's a specific target then it would probably be someone ranked a good bit lower than Holtz is.
Interesting. My issue with a guy like Cozens is after they have seen him for over a year, if they are willing to trade him then thats a warning sign. If they think he is a future 1c they ain't moving him.
AngelDuck
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Nothing Buffalo does is a warning sign of anything.
Them wanting to trade Cozens is a point in his favor as a player
The Mighty Duck Man
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On the other hand, it might be notable that this philosophy of theres, which they're open about and have been for years, is considered a tidbit from a national reporter a week before the draft. Its true every year, but this is the year its openly talked about? I found that interesting.
Or maybe it's a smokescreen, you never can tell, but I'm guessing not.
what about Rakell and our 2nd for the 8th? Draft value chart values a 36 @ 217 points and if rakell is worth like a 15th then he is worth like 433 points for a total of 650. An 8th is worth 629.
Buffalo gets some immediate help for Eichel (I bet they would do great together) and Ducks can target a guy like Sanderson for another key piece for the new core.
Buffalo gets some immediate help for Eichel (I bet they would do great together) and Ducks can target a guy like Sanderson for another key piece for the new core.
It wouldn't bother me. This would be a move to compete now. Rakell is going to help them win in the next 3ish years more then Cozens will.
AngelDuck
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I think it’d be more like Rakell + the Bruins 1st for the 8th. And I’m still not sure that’s enough from us to get back into the top 10
But it’s a good idea
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Only thing is i dont really see many trades i like going down that keep us in the top 12....
I guess thats ignoring prospects/players tho... and specifically just looking at draft picks.
Haven't discussed him much, probably because 6 is a bit of a reach but I can't help but think Anton Lundell is someone the Ducks would have ranked higher than other teams.
One of the most complete center prospects I've tracked in a long long time. I'd be surprised if he's not a legit all purpose #2 center in the NHL within a couple seasons.
One of the most complete center prospects I've tracked in a long long time. I'd be surprised if he's not a legit all purpose #2 center in the NHL within a couple seasons.
The three teams that make a lot of sense here are, in order: Carolina (at 13), Nashville (11), and Minnesota (9).
Each has an early 2nd round pick they can trade: Nashville (37), Carolina (41), and Minnesota (39).
Carolina might want to trade up to lock down Askarov, and apparently there's some smoke that New Jersey will take him at 7.
I'm predicting a trade with Carolina of our #6 for their #13 and #41.
Each has an early 2nd round pick they can trade: Nashville (37), Carolina (41), and Minnesota (39).
Carolina might want to trade up to lock down Askarov, and apparently there's some smoke that New Jersey will take him at 7.
I'm predicting a trade with Carolina of our #6 for their #13 and #41.
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If they make that trade they better be sure the guy/s they want will be there at #11. Chances are #41 never even makes it as an NHL regular.
But yeah that's that kind of deal I was hinting about with Lundell.
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