NHL Entry Draft 2020 NHL Draft Discussion - Part VIII

[DrakeAndJosh]

So the middling teams get to have their cake and eat it too

 

[IlTerrifico]

If there is justice among the hockey gods, the Isles lose the play in and win the lottery for us.

Otherwise, some fiasco will happen, as usual.

 

[IranCondraAffair]

If there is justice among the hockey gods, the Isles lose the play in and win the lottery for us.

Otherwise, some fiasco will happen, as usual.

Uhhh, then we'd lose the pick. It is top-3 protected.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

If there is justice among the hockey gods, the Isles lose the play in and win the lottery for us.

Otherwise, some fiasco will happen, as usual.

It's lottery-protected lol.

Wouldn't mind a top-15 pick though.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

15 teams in the lottery as per usual... Only real issue the possible teams getting a crack at it which could turn out to be a head shaker

 

[Emerica]

Lmao. So the likes of Montreal, Chicago, etc. get tossed a bone and the bottom 7 teams can just go f*** themselves. "Oh well we couldn't please everyone!"

 

[Boud]

If there is justice among the hockey gods, the Isles lose the play in and win the lottery for us.

Otherwise, some fiasco will happen, as usual.

Isles pick is top 3 protected.

But they could lose and slide in the top 15 which would be amazing...

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

Too lazy to really figure this out ... what is the worst case scenario for us now?

 

[DJB]

So stupid to make phase 2 equal odds between all teams. What the f*** is that. Can’t wait for Edmonton/Pittsburgh/Chicago/Toronto to be pickings top 3

Just to clarify if that means let's say the first pick is one by a play in team, that picks 2 and 3 everyone is given the same odds of 12.5 %?

 

[Bubba Pilks]

Does that mean we will have the same odds as let's say Montreal or Pittsburgh or whoever loses??

So it was explained like this. Regular lottery but instead of names for 8-15, its letters. If one, two or three of those letters win, then there will be a seperate lottery for those 8 play in losers. Each having a 12.5 % chance at those picks.

We maintain our odds including 13.5%, 11.5% for first as per tankathon.

 

[DaveMatthew]

Too lazy to really figure this out ... what is the worst case scenario for us now?

5 and 6.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Too lazy to really figure this out ... what is the worst case scenario for us now?

5 and 6

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Does that mean we will have the same odds as let's say Montreal or Pittsburgh or whoever loses??

The draft lottery does not change at all for the bottm 7 teams. It is the exact same scenario as if the season played out. They have their normal assigned odds at 1/2/3.

Teams 8-15 are placeholder picks. If one of those teams wins the lottery, or wins multiple lotteries, the NHL is going to do a second lottery that only has the 8 losers from the first round of the 24 team playoff. These 8 losers will all get a 12.5 percent chance at each lottery.

So let's say the lottery unfolds like....
1 - Spot 8
2 - NJD
3 - BUF

That means, after the playoffs, the 8 losing teams will have a new lottery for first overall, they will all have a 12.5 percent chance.

So we could see an unprecedented exciting scenario where teams like Toronto, Pittsburgh, and Edmonton have a 12.5 chance at the first overall (or any of the top 3 picks). If you don't like Toronto getting Lafreniere, to quote Elliotte Friedman, "You have no soul!".

 

[BondraTime]

If there is justice among the hockey gods, the Isles lose the play in and win the lottery for us.

Otherwise, some fiasco will happen, as usual.

We don't want that to happen

 

[DJB]

Too lazy to really figure this out ... what is the worst case scenario for us now?

We pick 5th and 6th.

Habs
Toronto
Pens

Own the first 3 picks of the draft

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

thanks

 

[Bubba Pilks]

Too lazy to really figure this out ... what is the worst case scenario for us now?

Think of our odds as the exact same as it would have been with a regular 16 team playoff. Our picks are 2 and 3. So 84.8% chance of two top 5s and a 15.2% chance of 5/6.

 

[DaveMatthew]

The draft lottery does not change at all for the bottm 7 teams. It is the exact same scenario as if the season played out. They have their normal assigned odds at 1/2/3.

Teams 8-15 are placeholder picks. If one of those teams wins the lottery, or wins multiple lotteries, the NHL is going to do a second lottery that only has the 8 losers from the first round of the 24 team playoff. These 8 losers will all get a 12.5 percent chance at each lottery.

So let's say the lottery unfolds like....
1 - Spot 8
2 - NJD
3 - BUF

That means, after the playoffs, the 8 losing teams will have a new lottery for first overall, they will all have a 12.5 percent chance.

So we could see an unprecedented exciting scenario where teams like Toronto, Pittsburgh, and Edmonton have a 12.5 chance at the first overall (or any of the top 3 picks). If you don't like Toronto getting Lafreniere, to quote Elliotte Friedman, "You have no soul!".

It will be:

1. Montreal
2. Chicago
3. Toronto
4. Detroit
5. Ottawa
6. Ottawa

NHL gets the ratings by including big markets in the "play-in", big markets get an extra reward if it just doesn't work out their way.

 

[Melgene Eunyk]

So:
For us, the odds of 1-2-3 will be the same as if the season were to have ended traditionally, with us finishing 29th and 30th. It seems like a defeat with some of the proposed scenarios of the past 2 months, but this is a huge win.
It's highly unlikely we would have maintained our hold on 2-3 if the final 10 games were played out.
I'm just glad there is finally confirmation and we can look ahead to the lottery.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Still think the flaw in all of this is the expanded 24 team playin.... If they just went with the top 16, bottom 15 ... there would be far less wtfisms.

 

[Boud]

Honestly we have to be happy that the season ended when it did. Last game we confirmed that we'd end up in the 2-3 spots and who knows where we would've ended up with 10 more game played. Bottom line is were in the best position possible and that's a positive in itself, we're pretty lucky to have that.

Our odds also stay the same, and as per any other draft the lowest we could slide is 5 and 6.

This is what I expected and I think it's fair.

 

[h2]

It's an absolute joke that the 8-15 teams are even included in this when they get a chance to resume play. The teams in the 1-7 lottery positions are getting bent over. Horrible plan, absolutely horrible.

 

[BondraTime]

Why did we vote yes to this?

 

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

This league is rigged.

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

The draft lottery does not change at all for the bottm 7 teams. It is the exact same scenario as if the season played out. They have their normal assigned odds at 1/2/3.

Teams 8-15 are placeholder picks. If one of those teams wins the lottery, or wins multiple lotteries, the NHL is going to do a second lottery that only has the 8 losers from the first round of the 24 team playoff. These 8 losers will all get a 12.5 percent chance at each lottery.

So let's say the lottery unfolds like....
1 - Spot 8
2 - NJD
3 - BUF

That means, after the playoffs, the 8 losing teams will have a new lottery for first overall, they will all have a 12.5 percent chance.

So we could see an unprecedented exciting scenario where teams like Toronto, Pittsburgh, and Edmonton have a 12.5 chance at the first overall (or any of the top 3 picks). If you don't like Toronto getting Lafreniere, to quote Elliotte Friedman, "You have no soul!".

And this lottery happens before the playoffs right? So the teams in the playoffs could know that they have a significant chance at 1st overall should they lose?