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Seidenbergy

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Ranked choice voting could only work if voting went 100% electronic.

Manual counting "regular" votes is taking long enough....days upon days in some areas. Adding the layers that RCV would add would be a nightmare and would cost a fortune to do manually.
 
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Bruinaura

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The place where I work had #12 covid19 case today. 7 in Oct

My neighbor got it from his wife and was on a ventilator He was away from home for 2 months and was lucky to live. He looks like he aged 20 years in 2 months. His wife didn't get it too bad but now has scared lungs Why people can't wear a mask and social distance is beyond me.

It is just ignorant and selfish.
We've had an increase this week in the number of people who have had close contact with someone who tested positive. Especially since the CDC broadened the definition of close contact.

I've spent more time responding to Covid questions in the last week than I have working on benefits renewal. :help:
 

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I don't know, I like it. You don't have to vote for more than one person. Perhaps you have a tough time picking between two candidates and would be happy to see either one of them win. Ranked-choice would give you a better chance of making that possible. I always want my vote to matter and I think it'd be more likely to with ranked choice.

Saying all of that, I doubt it passes here and we haven't had a situation like Maine had with LePage where there's a huge drive to change things.
I voted for it knowing how contentious the next few elections will be in Boston specifically. Sadly it won't be signed into law until 2022 so the mayoral race in Boston will be another shitshow.

What happened in the September primary in the 4th congressional district was enough to sway my vote to yes.

I kind of wish Cumberland Farms hadn't yanked their ballot question. The debate on weather to allow them and others to sell beer and wine would have been fun. It will be up for vote in 2022.

Cumberland Farms Drops Beer and Wine Ballot Question
 

LSCII

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So what about states like Georgia where if no candidate gets 50%, there's a runoff?

All ranked choice voting is doing is making that runoff instant. It's not perfect, but it's at least better than first past the post.

With RCV, at least you get a winner that 50% of the population is at least okay with.

I don't know. Hasn't happened here, so it's never a been an issue. And a run off isn't anything that happens very often in other places either. Is it truly a big deal to have one every so often? Seems to me that overhauling a voting process for corner cases that happen what, every 5-10 years, isn't the way to go, but the voters will speak and we shall see.
 

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Ranked choice voting could only work if voting went 100% electronic.

Manual counting "regular" votes is taking long enough....days upon days in some areas. Adding the layers that RCV would add would be a nightmare and would cost a fortune to do manually.

I don't really get the obsession with all votes being counted "day of".

If it takes a few more days to get it right, so be it. There seems to be this hand-in-hand implication that somehow the system is delegitimized or invalid if there's isn't a result on "Election Day". I don't get it.
 

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I don't really get the obsession with all votes being counted "day of".

If it takes a few more days to get it right, so be it. There seems to be this hand-in-hand implication that somehow the system is delegitimized or invalid if there's isn't a result on "Election Day". I don't get it.

We have the tech to both get it right AND have the results same-day.
 

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I don't really get the obsession with all votes being counted "day of".

If it takes a few more days to get it right, so be it. There seems to be this hand-in-hand implication that somehow the system is delegitimized or invalid if there's isn't a result on "Election Day". I don't get it.

Just my opinion but that like saying it's okay to show up to vote on the 4th or 5th of November. There should be a cut off date for mail in voting about a week before the election day so that everything can be counted. Mail in is the exception not the norm; arrange it so a person can verify their vote has been counted. If for some reason it has not they can still show up the designated election day and vote the traditional way. Again just my opinion.
 

Mainehockey33

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Ranked choice voting could only work if voting went 100% electronic.

Manual counting "regular" votes is taking long enough....days upon days in some areas. Adding the layers that RCV would add would be a nightmare and would cost a fortune to do manually.
It’s only used if a candidate doesn’t receive a majority of the votes. Maine used it for a house vote in the second district and they used a computer program to count the vote so it wasn’t a nightmare nor did it cost a fortune. The representative we have now is much more popular and is leading the polls around 60 to 30 in a toss up district that could go red or blue.
 

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I do not support online voting, it is too easy to hack into those systems and I don't trust the states to fund & implement truly secure and user friendly electronic voting. Just look at most state government online sites (DMV anybody?)- they're a nightmare to navigate even if the site uses up to date technology which most do not because by the time the technology is purchased, installed, all the bugs ironed out & employees trained to operate it it is already 5 years out of date.

In CT for in person voting you are given a ballot once your ID is confirmed. You fill in the circle next to the candidates' names or yes/no questions, then you insert it into a machine that reads & records your votes. The safety feature is the actual ballot is still available to be counted if the machine gets hacked or malfunctions.
 
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Looked up one of the judges out here and found one of the most racist website dedicated to her. Didn’t even talk about what she’s done but about her and her family. Her race and other disgusting things.
 

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BOSTON (CBS) – The Boston Marathon has been postponed until at least the fall of 2021, the Boston Athletic Association announced Wednesday.

“With fewer than six months until Patriots’ Day and with road races prohibited until Phase 4 of the Massachusetts reopening plan, we are unable to host the Boston Marathon this coming April,” B.A.A. CEO Tom Grilk said in a statement.
 

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I don't really get the obsession with all votes being counted "day of".

If it takes a few more days to get it right, so be it. There seems to be this hand-in-hand implication that somehow the system is delegitimized or invalid if there's isn't a result on "Election Day". I don't get it.
A large part of this is because people don't understand that what we see on the news on election night is actually a gimmick created by the media years ago.

There are also other factors that I can't get into here
 
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BOSTON (CBS) – The Boston Marathon has been postponed until at least the fall of 2021, the Boston Athletic Association announced Wednesday.

“With fewer than six months until Patriots’ Day and with road races prohibited until Phase 4 of the Massachusetts reopening plan, we are unable to host the Boston Marathon this coming April,” B.A.A. CEO Tom Grilk said in a statement.
I need a dislike button.
I get it but it makes me sad
 

McGarnagle

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I do not support online voting, it is too easy to hack into those systems and I don't trust the states to fund & implement truly secure and user friendly electronic voting. Just look at most state government online sites (DMV anybody?)- they're a nightmare to navigate even if the site uses up to date technology which most do not because by the time the technology is purchased, installed, all the bugs ironed out & employees trained to operate it it is already 5 years out of date.

In CT for in person voting you are given a ballot once your ID is confirmed. You fill in the circle next to the candidates' names or yes/no questions, then you insert it into a machine that reads & records your votes. The safety feature is the actual ballot is still available to be counted if the machine gets hacked or malfunctions.

I'm not worked up about the security of online/mail voting, because I think the powers that be can and do rig in-person voting just as easily.
 

talkinaway

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Random thought that I've had off and on for the last week or so - whatever happened to the Olympics in Tokyo 2021? If Boston can't handle a marathon, which is an international event but on a much smaller scale, how is a truly worldwide event going to take place next summer?

Haven't heard a thing about it, but it seems prudent to pull the Band-Aid off and cancel it or delay it again. Of course, putting Tokyo in 2022 would mean you're basically doing back-to-back Winter and Summer Olympics in 2022, which would be exhausting for the networks who show the Olympics - and the viewers who watch them. Cancelling Tokyo creates all sorts of logistical problems. I'm sure Tokyo's put in a ton of money and expects to see some small return (despite the Olympics being a famous money pit) to offset holding the event, and they REALLY want to hold it. Moving everything back 4 years so that Tokyo gets 2024 would annoy Paris and LA.
 

LSCII

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I'm not worked up about the security of online/mail voting, because I think the powers that be can and do rig in-person voting just as easily.

Exactly. And if people want to be honest with themselves with what's going on around the country, the most easily used trick to sway an election isn't fake ballots or stolen identities. It's voter suppression for large groups of people that they don't want making an impact on the outcome of an election. Limiting inner city drop boxes, or polling stations. Making people stand in line for 10 hours just to cast their ballot. Gerrymandering the districts to limit the impact a demographic can have. Those are being done blatantly and brazenly in front of people's faces today. But yeah, mail in votes and absentee voting are bad, mmkay? Bad. lol
 

McGarnagle

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Random thought that I've had off and on for the last week or so - whatever happened to the Olympics in Tokyo 2021? If Boston can't handle a marathon, which is an international event but on a much smaller scale, how is a truly worldwide event going to take place next summer?

Haven't heard a thing about it, but it seems prudent to pull the Band-Aid off and cancel it or delay it again. Of course, putting Tokyo in 2022 would mean you're basically doing back-to-back Winter and Summer Olympics in 2022, which would be exhausting for the networks who show the Olympics - and the viewers who watch them. Cancelling Tokyo creates all sorts of logistical problems. I'm sure Tokyo's put in a ton of money and expects to see some small return (despite the Olympics being a famous money pit) to offset holding the event, and they REALLY want to hold it. Moving everything back 4 years so that Tokyo gets 2024 would annoy Paris and LA.

I'm sure Japan would be pissed, but a reasonable option would be for each Olympic sport's sub-committee to run separate bubbles that are much more manageable - i.e. track & field in South Africa, Basketball in LA, swimming in Sydney, so on and so forth. No big opening/closing ceremonies with mass gathering, limited attendance, make it a tv-centric event. It'd be much easier to pull off.

I'm more concerned about the World Cup being pushed back.
 

McGarnagle

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Exactly. And if people want to be honest with themselves with what's going on around the country, the most easily used trick to sway an election isn't fake ballots or stolen identities. It's voter suppression for large groups of people that they don't want making an impact on the outcome of an election. Limiting inner city drop boxes, or polling stations. Making people stand in line for 10 hours just to cast their ballot. Gerrymandering the districts to limit the impact a demographic can have. Those are being done blatantly and brazenly in front of people's faces today. But yeah, mail in votes and absentee voting are bad, mmkay? Bad. lol

Yep. On one side of the aisle you have voter suppression, on the other you have vote harvesting and fraud. Though since both major parties are corrupt it often evens out in the end.

In 2018 seats in several of the congressional districts in my county flipped while several of the voting precincts had a 130% voter turnout rate.
 
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