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CharasLazyWrister

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Just my opinion but that like saying it's okay to show up to vote on the 4th or 5th of November. There should be a cut off date for mail in voting about a week before the election day so that everything can be counted. Mail in is the exception not the norm; arrange it so a person can verify their vote has been counted. If for some reason it has not they can still show up the designated election day and vote the traditional way. Again just my opinion.

We literally had a President suggesting delay of the election a few months ago and now waiting a few days to have a final count on ballots is too much of an exception? Am I supposed to believe it is a coincidence that the party which mail in voting does not favor is fighting ant way for the deadline to be expanded?

And by the way, people are required to vote by the Election Day. Not sure why that’s your comparison considering no state (that I know of) is allowing any ballot if postmarked after Election Day.

I don’t see any legitimate reason other than one party see it as advantageous. And I think you’re honestly kidding yourself by denying that as the reason.

Voting Election Day in cities is a known extremely time consuming process. Things happen with the mail, whether the fault of the USPS or the sender. We should be trying to let as many people have a voice as possible. Period. I can’t even believe it’s an argument.
 
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Yep. On one side of the aisle you have voter suppression, on the other you have vote harvesting and fraud. Though since both major parties are corrupt it often evens out in the end.

In 2018 seats in several of the congressional districts in my county flipped while several of the voting precincts had a 130% voter turnout rate.

I wish there was a love button here because like isn't enough for this post.
 
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Yep. On one side of the aisle you have voter suppression, on the other you have vote harvesting and fraud. Though since both major parties are corrupt it often evens out in the end.

In 2018 seats in several of the congressional districts in my county flipped while several of the voting precincts had a 130% voter turnout rate.

Love this post.
 

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Not a fan of either party, but You tube should be pretty ashamed of themselves for the top of their desktop website...I'm sure they paid for that spot :sarcasm:

You need to start using AdBlock, or my personal favorite, uBlock Origin.
 

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Just my opinion but that like saying it's okay to show up to vote on the 4th or 5th of November. There should be a cut off date for mail in voting about a week before the election day so that everything can be counted. Mail in is the exception not the norm; arrange it so a person can verify their vote has been counted. If for some reason it has not they can still show up the designated election day and vote the traditional way. Again just my opinion.
That's basically how they've been doing it here in OR for the past 20 years. We got our ballots about 2 weeks ago. Each county has an opt in option for being notified by text or email or both when 1) when your ballot is mailed to you 2) when your ballot is received and then finally 3) when your ballot is accepted, ie. signatures match and will be counted when counting starts. Here in OR they officially started counting the ballots received to date this morning. No results will be posted anywhere until Nov 3 after 8pm though. But with that said, we've been doing it for decades here. I don't understand how anyone can expect it to go smoothly in any state that hasn't been doing this and didn't already have themselves set up to handle the increased number of ballots in printing needs, mailing needs, receiving needs and processing needs. It's not even the slightest bit realistic to have it happen without issue.

Oh and my personal experience on those trying to blame the GOP for the postal delay issues ....in the 70's and 80s when I lived out here it took exactly 4 days for mail to get from here to MA and vice versa. Ever since I've moved back in 2014 it has taken 6-8 days, if it even makes it at all.
 
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You need to start using AdBlock, or my personal favorite, uBlock Origin.
Highly recommend using a browser like Duck Duck Go - it's amazing getting all the information on topics so you can make your own decisions like an adult instead of being told what you should be thinking. The censorship going on is real. Do a search on Google and then do the same search on Duck Duck Go. The difference in results is eye opening. The lack of ad's is a wonderful bonus.
 
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Voter fraud is on both sides. Do you just ignore all of those stories from one side of the aisle?

That's why I loved his post- that is what he said and I agree 100% with him.

Both parties are corrupt to the core. I don't know if the answer is to reform them or blow them up and start all over again.
 

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I mean there are always the libertarian and Green Party.

amazes me to see the amount of crying I’ve seen about a 2 party system when people legit have a wealth of knowledge on their smart phones.

instead of Facebook and tik Tok maybe research? But a lot of people are just lazy.
 
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Gonzothe7thDman

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In reality, they need to get an option for everyone for electronic voting because that's where this is all headed. We file our taxes electronically every year and it's safe and secure, so why not voting? Let's get out of the 18th century and use technology for what it's designed to do, make things simpler.

I also think they need to do away with the electoral college because why should a small number of swing states be the only people whose votes matter?

As someone who has worked in IT for quite a few years. And as someone who knows a lot of software devs and guys that work in CyberSecurity, believe me when I say we are nowhere close to being able to vote electronically safely.

And even then, if we ever were that will degrade the publics trust in the process. Just about anybody can volunteer to man the polling stations. They can see and help in the process.

The average person will have no idea how an electronic process works.
 

McGarnagle

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Liberal Democracy (by which I mean the system, not a specific left-right alignment) is by its very nature susceptible to corruption and special interest money and will inevitable devolve into an oligarchy of corporations.

I'm a monarchist. We need a strong central leader whose devotion is to his nation and not to the people giving him money to get re-elected.
 

Troublesome 85

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No doubt. Things have been bad enough since May. Imagine what they'll do if the incumbent party is reelected.

I know my rights. Laws and what will happen if anyone steps on my property. Sounds extreme but extreme things are happening in the streets and I won’t allow my families to become victims cuz some people are having a tantrum.
 

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No doubt. Things have been bad enough since May. Imagine what they'll do if the incumbent party is reelected.

If they respond to re-election as you think they will their party won't win a presidential election for very long time to come. People aren't going to vote for a candidate whose party can be associated with this kind of behavior.
 

McGarnagle

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I know my rights. Laws and what will happen if anyone steps on my property. Sounds extreme but extreme things are happening in the streets and I won’t allow my families to become victims cuz some people are having a tantrum.

Your rights and laws don't matter anymore. Look what they did to that couple in Missouri who were defending their property.
 

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Your rights and laws don't matter anymore. Look what they did to that couple in Missouri who were defending their property.

Nah hahaha that couple were a couple of morons. They brandished their guns. That’s against the law. They also forgot the rules of hand guns. 2 of the main 4. Actually they forgot all 4 rules. Off the top of my head

never point a gun at something you’re not willing to kill
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forgot the 4th. They also weren’t really being attacked so the castle doctrine doesn’t really go with it.

I’m well versed in most gun laws and rules. Was going to look into becoming a range trainer so I could help educate people.
 
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Seidenbergy

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As someone who has worked in IT for quite a few years. And as someone who knows a lot of software devs and guys that work in CyberSecurity, believe me when I say we are nowhere close to being able to vote electronically safely.

And even then, if we ever were that will degrade the publics trust in the process. Just about anybody can volunteer to man the polling stations. They can see and help in the process.

The average person will have no idea how an electronic process works.

90% of individuals in this country file their taxes electronically.
 

Gonzothe7thDman

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No doubt. Things have been bad enough since May. Imagine what they'll do if the incumbent party is reelected.

Yea and hopefully nobody else tries to kidnap any governors or plot political assassinations. I worry about the fringe groups that seem to be salivating about a civil war.

90% of individuals in this country file their taxes electronically.

Cool. I am talking about voting.
 

Mainehockey33

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Nah hahaha that couple were a couple of morons. They brandished their guns. That’s against the law. They also forgot the rules of hand guns. 2 of the main 4. Actually they forgot all 4 rules. Off the top of my head

never point a gun at something you’re not willing to kill
Trigger finger
Act as if the gun is always loaded

forgot the 4th. They also weren’t really being attacked so the castle doctrine doesn’t really go with it.

I’m well versed in most gun laws and rules. Was going to look into becoming a range trainer so I could help educate people.
I’m pretty sure that lady’s finger was on the trigger too, right? But yeah, my dad taught me not to point my gun at anything I didn’t intend to shoot when he started taking me hunting.
 

CharasLazyWrister

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If they respond to re-election as you think they will their party won't win a presidential election for very long time to come. People aren't going to vote for a candidate whose party can be associated with this kind of behavior.

I am curious given what has been going on why you seem to think this is only a one way thing. Quite a selective intake of information...
 
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