Are you kidding me? I have to READ everything you write... and I can barely read as it is. Add a beer and it's all over
Prospect Info: 2020 Devils-Centric Final Mock Draft, Rounds 1 & 2
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Are you kidding me? I have to READ everything you write... and I can barely read as it is. Add a beer and it's all over
Not a fan of inconsistency and lack of work ethic in a prospect, I don’t care how skilled you are. If you’re a consistent 40 goal scorer, that’s a different story but I don’t think that’ll be the case with Perreault or else he’d be labeled as a top #2 pick overall.
beekay414
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Then I guess you wouldn't have taken Pasta in 2014 and would've looked like a fool. You'll take the kid that can't shoot, has neck/concussion issues but won't take the immensely skilled kid with inconsistent on ice drive? Makes no sense. And it's not lack of work ethic with Perreault, it's lack of want to on one end of the ice. His offensive skill isn't going anywhere.
Perreault has scored 30 and 39 goals in his two CHL seasons. Not sure how much more consistent you'd expect a teenager to be.
Yeah, because you probably saw it all along and called Pasternak a stud before Boston took him at the end of the 1st round.
What I’m saying is that Lapierre’s issues are probably "behind" him since he’s playing at the moment, or else there would be no way he’d step foot on the ice if he still had neck issues.
Anyways, we don’t see eye to eye on this matter and that’s cool but yes, I’ll go with the one who’s been labeled a top #10 pick for close to a year over a kid who’s just content of scoring goals and do close to little else when the puck isn’t on his stick.
If you can guarantee me that he’ll be a 30 to 40 goal scorer in the NHL, I’ll gladly take Perreault, but I just don’t see it. To me, he looks like Michael Ryder... wicked shot and nothing else.
beekay414
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And the bold tells me, right there, that you haven't seen Perreault play. Kid is a line driver. He is a 35-40 goal playmaker and those guys don't come around often.
Also, considering Pasta has been my favorite player since, well, basically forever, yes, I was a huge proponent for Pasta in 2014. HUGE. There's a reason why I'm so damn high on Perreault and I keep calling him the Pasta of this class. I'm not saying that as in he's 2020 Pasta, I'm saying as a prospect, he's Pasta v2.0 and there's no reason he should be as low as he is on some of these rankings. I will continue to bang the table for the kid.
EDIT - And yes, STI, I know Perreault and Pasta aren't identical as prospects. It's more with how I feel he's being rated similarly as Pasta was in '14. I loved Pasta as a prospect and I'm all in on Perreault.
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beekay414
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The best part about Perreault is that there is also the chance that you can play him on the dot and have a dynamic goal scoring, playmaking center. If not, you're going to get a dominant offensive winger. I'm not worried about Perreault's 200 foot game right now. That'll come in time. His offensive skill is off the charts and he's an ideal partner for Nico in the long run.
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He's not flawless by any measure but watch this video and tell me he's "Michael Ryder" lol
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Are you kidding me? I have to READ everything you write... and I can barely read as it is. Add a beer and it's all over
Dude...You managed to read my head-scratching posts all the time.
If you can handle that, you can handle anything (with or without beer).
glenwo2
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It's easy to see that he's not Michael Ryder nor John Cena 'cause unlike those two : WE *CAN* SEE HIM (he's not invisible).
Hendrix Lapierre is an outstanding talent who I have lauded at great length. I feel in terms of sheer playmaking, he is the second best prospect in the entire draft after only Alex Lafreniere. He is superlative at seeing the passing seams before they even exist, and then he is able to utilize an outstanding combination of hands and skating to open a seam, and once he does he passes with surgical precision.
Lapierre comes with two caveats, however. One is the well-publicized injury woes, which are of course no fault of his own. But the other is that not only does Lapierre not shoot with any authority, but he also almost never shoots. This makes him a bit predictable, and the best defense against him is often to back off and clog the lanes.
Still, I believe if healthy -- and this is a big if -- Lapierre has the potential of becoming a play-driving #1 center at the NHL level. He's just so smart and so skilled.
That being said, I can't argue that he has more "talent" or "upside" than Jacob Perreault. Perreault possesses a combination of shooting/skating/vision which is far and away the best among RWs in the class of 2020. Three elite skills is very rare for a draftee, and when you factor in that Perreault also has terrific hands and is one of the younger players in the draft class, you have to be impressed by what he is capable of.
Of course, Perreault comes with completely different caveats which have dropped him to a likely draft destination in the #12-#20 range. His 200-foot game is in need of great work, and his compete level has come into question. Reportedly, he showed up for 2019 training camp out of shape, although I'm not entirely certain of the veracity of these reports. There are certainly elements of Perreault's game which need to improve if he is to reach his potential.
But, since potential is what we are discussing, I would have to say that Perreault would rank very highly in the 2020 class in this respect. Lafreniere and Byfield would certainly top this list, but Perreault has to be in the conversation immediately after the likely top two picks.
In my final rankings, I ranked Perreault at #12 and Lapierre at #23. I would love to see Lapierre prove me too conservative, and he certainly has the ability to do just this. I would say my ranking of him was in the neighborhood of most of the consensus, but quite frankly the injuries are so scary I'm not certain I would even draft him this early. The worst injuries in terms of recurrence are head and neck and back injuries, and Lapierre has suffered major versions of all of these before he turned 19. He was not the same player after returning late in the 2019-20 season, and although I have high hopes that he will return to form for his draft +1 campaign, there is still no guarantee.
My ranking of Perreault is as high as I have seen him ranked. I must admit that normally I am a stickler for compete level, but I was completely bedazzled by his skill set. When Perreault is going full throttle, he looks like a top 3 pick, not a guy who the Devils have a shot at at #20 overall. I can explain his high ranking with the same rationalization as I used to rank Arthur Kaliyev as high as anyone last year -- Jacob Perreault is just that talented. If he puts it all together, his potential is to be an absolutely unstoppable offensive force at the NHL level.
This is a point I would not argue. If your conviction is not to draft players who have questions regarding compete level, this is a perfectly legitimate and honorable stance to take.
...however you'll lose credibility if you falsely label Perreault a one-tool pony and compare him to players far below his skill range.
i assume for your posts beer is actually required.Dude...You managed to read my head-scratching posts all the time.
If you can handle that, you can handle anything (with or without beer).
Guadana
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Lapierre may never touches 20 goals. And he is a playmaker center with no upside in bottom line. He can’t be a reliable board player. He never be a good player in our system he can be, only if Hischier will play on the wing. it’s a non smart gambling. If we wanna make a bet - make it on Perrault.
Recently, I've done some more research on Perreault and Gunler, in the attempt to justify the character concerns which have been raised with these two talented young players. With Perreault, I discovered that he is actually quite popular among teammates, which gives me more hope that the concerns with him just amount to slight immaturity.
I'm going to continue to promote Perreault at the #18 or #20 picks. I feel comfortable enough sticking my neck out for him. His upside is simply tremendous, and he is the type of player who would greatly benefit both a Nico Hischier and a Jack Hughes.
Guadana
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I think he will be a good fit but i dont like a challange he will have in the next two years. If he has one at all. On the other hand Reichel and Amirov will play. And they will play in adult league with better challange against better opponents. They have much more space for personal growth and more opportunities with more complex and interesting tasks.
I believe that Perrault is a great choice for the Devils, i will be happy enough with him, but for the reasons stated above, any hockey player is currently lower on my list than Reichel and Amirov.
Amirov would likely be my top choice at #18 if he fell that far, but I do not think he will. I'm a huge fan of Amirov, but he joins the list with Jarvis and Mercer of players the Devils likely missed out on when Nashville choked in the Arizona series and dropped that pick down from #9 to #18.
I think Perreault is still a wild card in the draft. A team seeking goal-scoring from the wing -- like Edmonton or Montreal -- could decide to forego his concerns and take a chance on his tremendous potential in the #14-#16 range.
What I love about your consistent promoting of Lukas Reichel is that -- not only is he a terrific player -- but he is extremely likely to be available for the Devils at #18 and #20. This is an excellent fit, and someone I hope the Devils are strongly considering going into the draft.
I'd be surprised if he even hits 20 goals (talking about lapierre).
It's understandable. His dad was a long-time successful NHL player and he's way more talented than his peers. I would be immature too if I was him. I think I've gotten on board with picking him at #18.
Hey, I'm still immature too and I'm in my 50s
I think he's high on my list at 18/20, but I'm afraid I'm maybe going overboard with my fixation for goal scoring, sort of like how Shero went overboard with big defensive defense men last draft.
If we pull off one of the D at 7, I'm definitely all over him though.
Hey, I'm still immature too and I'm in my 50s
I think he's high on my list at 18/20, but I'm afraid I'm maybe going overboard with my fixation for goal scoring, sort of like how Shero went overboard with big defensive defense men last draft.
If we pull off one of the D at 7, I'm definitely all over him though.
@Nubmer6 is correct. Which is to say, he's in his 50s and he's still immature.
*Throws a temper tantrum at STI*
Thats pretty impressive. I’ve never been able to throw incorporeal things. Where do you grab hold of them and get over the whole lack of mass thing as far as the gravity?
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