WJC: 2020 Canada Roster Talk

TheBeastCoast · Dec 17, 2019

Statsy said:
Well either way, it’s good to get a complete list of those unable to attend. There’s usually a thread about it each year, but the losses are relatively minor this year.

I guess I just think there is a pretty important distinction between available and injured...and just not available because they weren't released. Don't think the two things are the same.

JackSlater · Dec 17, 2019

I was only talking about players who aren't available due to the NHL. Once you start getting into injuries it is much more complicated, as you don't always know who actually would have made a given team had they been healthy. I have a thread detailing the players who have missed the tournament due to the NHL since 1982 that I will update in a few days.

wishywashy19 · Dec 17, 2019

JackSlater said:
I think this is it. Pretty minor crop really:

Canada: Dobson, Dach
Sweden: Dahlin, Boqvist
Russia: Svechnikov
USA: Farabee, Hughes
Finland: Kotkaniemi, Kakko

Kotkaniemi is injured as well and might not have been able to go regardless.

This looks like one of the most even talent per team no shows of all time
Probably hurts the Finns the most especially considering Lundell injury

Gold Standard · Dec 18, 2019

jj cale said:
It's a big loss but I can understand why lou did not release him as the isles need him right now.

yeah, they certainly do. They need his assprint in the barstool worked in good and firm for posterity's sake.

A great development model you got there, Lou.

I like the Iles's previous GM more. He was/is an idiot, but I liked more.

kyle44 · Dec 18, 2019

Gold Standard said:
yeah, they certainly do. They need his assprint in the barstool worked in good and firm for posterity's sake.

A great development model you got there, Lou.

I like the Iles's previous GM more. He was/is an idiot, but I liked more.

They need him so much he was scratched last night.

Ivan13 · Dec 18, 2019

wishywashy19 said:
This looks like one of the most even talent per team no shows of all time
Probably hurts the Finns the most especially considering Lundell injury

Finns?

Svechnikov and Dahlin are head and shoulders above anyone else mentioned there as it stands right now.

tfantasy · Dec 18, 2019

kyle44 said:
They need him so much he was scratched last night.

hockey20000 · Dec 18, 2019

sucks no Dobson when he's just being scratched.. yet lou loans the American player for team usa.. just trying to hurt team Canada i guess lame lou.

jj cale · Dec 18, 2019

Gold Standard said:
yeah, they certainly do. They need his assprint in the barstool worked in good and firm for posterity's sake.

A great development model you got there, Lou.

I like the Iles's previous GM more. He was/is an idiot, but I liked more.

But won't he probably play now with the current situation in Long Island?

Edit: from reading the last few posts above it seems as if they still aren't, strange.

TheBeastCoast · Dec 18, 2019

jj cale said:
But won't he probably play now with the current situation in Long Island?

Edit: from reading the last few posts above it seems as if they still aren't, strange.

Was healthy scratched last night. Pretty transparent stuff it seems.

jj cale · Dec 18, 2019

TheBeastCoast said:
Was healthy scratched last night. Pretty transparent stuff it seems.

I'm not the biggest conspiracy theorist guy, I just don't buy that Lou is screwing us over purposely.

JackSlater · Dec 18, 2019

Yes if you think that Lamoriello is such a big WJC fan that he would loan one player but not another just to swing things in USA's favour then I don't know what to tell you. The man is almost 80 years old and a very respected NHL executive.

TheBeastCoast · Dec 18, 2019

JackSlater said:
Yes if you think that Lamoriello is such a big WJC fan that he would loan one player but not another just to swing things in USA's favour then I don't know what to tell you. The man is almost 80 years old and a very respected NHL executive.

Calm down I never even said I thought that lol. I just dont think he really cares to help. If you dont think certain GMs have more of an alligance to certain international programs I'm not sure what to tell you.

bert · Dec 18, 2019

TheBeastCoast said:
Calm down I never even said I thought that lol. I just dont think he really cares to help. If you dont think certain GMs have more of an alligance to certain international programs I'm not sure what to tell you.

You just insinuated it with your second sentence lol. Its a ridiculous thing to even suggest.

Would you be saying this if he was still with the leafs?

TheBeastCoast · Dec 18, 2019

bert said:
You just insinuated it with your second sentence lol. Its a ridiculous thing to even suggest.

Would you be saying this if he was still with the leafs?

Yes? And no I didnt.

JackSlater · Dec 18, 2019

TheBeastCoast said:
Calm down I never even said I thought that lol. I just dont think he really cares to help. If you dont think certain GMs have more of an alligance to certain international programs I'm not sure what to tell you.

You're doubling down on a ridiculous idea. Any remotely respectable general manager wants to do what is best for their team and their player. They are not looking to "help" some national team due to "alligance" to a given national program.

Hale The Villain · Dec 18, 2019

Lou isn't trying to sabotage Team Canada, he just has no idea how to manage prospects.

- didn't deal one of his many D to make room for Dobson, opting to scratch him most games instead of returning him to junior
- signed a 19YR old Wahlstrom and brought him to the AHL after he put up a whopping 8G and 19P in 36GP in college
- decided to have an 18YR old Holmstrom jump from the SuperElit to the AHL, where he's predictably struggling
- brought Skarek over the pond after one mediocre SM-Liiga season to be the ECHL starter/AHL 3rd goalie at 20

Don't know why anyone would have expected him to release Dobson after decisions like this.

TheBeastCoast · Dec 18, 2019

JackSlater said:
You're doubling down on a ridiculous idea. Any remotely respectable general manager wants to do what is best for their team and their player. They are not looking to "help" some national team due to "alligance" to a given national program.

You are free to your own opinion.

newfy · Dec 18, 2019

Veleno has officially been released. I'm betting he doesnt play the first pre tourney game but plays the second

Back in Black · Dec 18, 2019

Gold Standard said:
Go Swiss.

Finally, Tomorrow!! :popcorn:

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Hockey Stick · Dec 18, 2019

Crazy how quickly this tourney is coming up! Only 8 more sleeps

tfantasy · Dec 18, 2019

Back In Black said:
Finally, Tomorrow!!

Don't get too excited. Its not on TV. I checked all the TSN channels and its not on any of them tomorrow @ noon. It might be available on stream but I was happier than a pig in crap when I thought it would be on TV

TheBeastCoast · Dec 18, 2019

tfantasy said:
Don't get too excited. Its not on TV. I checked all the TSN channels and its not on any of them tomorrow @ noon. It might be available on stream but I was happier than a pig in crap when I thought it would be on TV

It is 100% on TV. Just looked myself.

BondraTime · Dec 18, 2019

tfantasy said:
Don't get too excited. Its not on TV. I checked all the TSN channels and its not on any of them tomorrow @ noon. It might be available on stream but I was happier than a pig in crap when I thought it would be on TV

PRE-TOURNAMENT SCHEDULE

DATE	MATCHUP	TIME (ET/PT)	NETWORK
Thu, December 19	CAN vs. SUI	Noon/9am	TSN 1/3
Mon, December 23	CAN vs. FIN	11:30am/8:30am	TSN 1/4

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Canada4Gold · Dec 18, 2019

tfantasy said:
Don't get too excited. Its not on TV. I checked all the TSN channels and its not on any of them tomorrow @ noon. It might be available on stream but I was happier than a pig in crap when I thought it would be on TV

Check TSN 1 and 3. It's listed as Ice Hockey on my TV. Online it says Canada v Swiss

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