Salary Cap: 2020-21 Lightning Roster Discussion | Part 2

[The Gongshow]

Checking capfriendly. Teams that could take Killorn realistically:
- Preds
- Panthers
- Kings
- Devils
- Red Wings
- Senators

He would be a good fit for the Preds or Panthers, hopefully Preds move for him.

Yzerman knows that Detroit is the only team that probably can take Johnson. Will have to pay a 1st for that.

At this point I'd happily give up our first for that cap space. How often have our first round picks worked out anyways, they would need years to develop. We have 3 RFA's that are easily worth more than our 1st round draft pick at this point.

JBB needs to get going here, it's a tough market right now. Time to add the sweetener

 

[God King Fudge]

Yeah boys I don't think we're going to be willing to attach what's going to be needed to move TJ at this point. We need to accept that right now it's incredibly likely that we're losing either Cirelli or Serge.

 

[BoltSTH]

Doesn't help that Vegas is now $7m over the cap, so they will dumping contracts

 

[Crunchrulz]

Yeah boys I don't think we're going to be willing to attach what's going to be needed to move TJ at this point. We need to accept that right now it's incredibly likely that we're losing either Cirelli or Serge.

Farm is not deep on D. While either would hurt, Serge is the one I would work the hardest to keep. On the flip side, I also feel he is the one with the strongest value and would get the best return as part of a package or by himself.

 

[God King Fudge]

Farm is not deep on D. While either would hurt, Serge is the one I would work the hardest to keep. On the flip side, I also feel he is the one with the strongest value and would get the best return as part of a package or by himself.

Agreed on both points but I think the need for Serge outweighs possible return unless the desperation in the market causes a team to make a stupid deal. You gotta do whatever you can to keep him.

I think you're gonna see Cirelli shipped out for an underwhelming return and Killorn basically given away. Nate Schmidt for a 3rd is absolutely absurd and that doesn't bode well for the caliber of player we're looking to move.

 

[Todd1a]

Someone call Brisebois and let him know the offseason started and we are allowed to make trades if we want to !

 

[God King Fudge]

Someone call Brisebois and let him know the offseason started and we are allowed to make trades if we want to !

He's trying man. The market isn't there. Teams are not trying to take on cap. Who knows how long the Cap is going to be flat? No one is taking on$5M for 31 points without a serious addin. He can't force teams hands.

We have a lot of guys that aren't producing to their contract.

 

[violaswallet]

As a Florida fan do you think McD could be the guy that could be traded? Large contract but it makes sense given that Florida seems to be trying to move Weegar for some reason

 

[Todd1a]

He's trying man. The market isn't there. Teams are not trying to take on cap. Who knows how long the Cap is going to be flat? No one is taking on$5M for 31 points without a serious addin. He can't force teams hands.

We have a lot of guys that aren't producing to their contract.

At this point we won’t be able to sign one of Cernak, cirell or Sergachev I thought at least two of them we could sign

 

[DFC]

Yeah boys I don't think we're going to be willing to attach what's going to be needed to move TJ at this point. We need to accept that right now it's incredibly likely that we're losing either Cirelli or Serge.

Or starting the season with a holdout or two. If offer sheets don't materialize, we're kind of in a stand off.

 

[DFC]

He's trying man. The market isn't there. Teams are not trying to take on cap. Who knows how long the Cap is going to be flat? No one is taking on$5M for 31 points without a serious addin. He can't force teams hands.

We have a lot of guys that aren't producing to their contract.

Let's just pull the Yzerman special: give TJ 20 minutes per night with Kucherov and Point, 1st PP minutes, and on the ice in all EN situations. He puts up 15 points in his first 15 games and we move him for a 2nd.

Then we finally end the stand off with Cirelli and bring him back from Sweden, where he's been staying in shape.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Let's just pull the Yzerman special: give TJ 20 minutes per night with Kucherov and Point, 1st PP minutes, and on the ice in all EN situations. He puts up 15 points in his first 15 games and we move him for a 2nd.

Then we finally end the stand off with Cirelli and bring him back from Sweden, where he's been staying in shape.

This is actually not a bad idea..

 

[BoltSTH]

Trade Cirelli for draft picks/prospects and use some of those to help move Johnson. As a last resort we could waive Killorn; I think he would be picked up @ 4.5m for 3 years.. $9.5m should be enough to sign Sergachev and Cernak, and pick a couple of cheap UFA like Rutta.

 

[Todd1a]

this sucks because it's not like Johnson is a bad player I think he still puts up 45 to 55 points easy in a top 6 role

 

[FinnLightning26]

Meh. I'm not worried at all. Whatever team we'll ice next season, it will still be one of the best in the league and at least we have a Cup now. Imagine how much this would've sucked if we didn't win.

 

[Bozo Nicholson]

McPhee is making the same mistakes Wilson did. That team will be a disaster in a few years.

The Sharks went from “Man, they’re gonna win the cup this year aren’t they?” to “Man, what a steaming pile of shit.”

 

[Todd1a]

The Sharks went from “Man, they’re gonna win the cup this year aren’t they?” to “Man, what a steaming pile of shit.”

yep they suck

 

[HoseEmDown]

McPhee is making the same mistakes Wilson did. That team will be a disaster in a few years.

McPhee? He's not the GM anymore, hasn't been for a year. It's McCrimmon who's the GM.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Yeah boys I don't think we're going to be willing to attach what's going to be needed to move TJ at this point. We need to accept that right now it's incredibly likely that we're losing either Cirelli or Serge.

Yeah ok.

That’s not happening

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Agreed on both points but I think the need for Serge outweighs possible return unless the desperation in the market causes a team to make a stupid deal. You gotta do whatever you can to keep him.

I think you're gonna see Cirelli shipped out for an underwhelming return and Killorn basically given away. Nate Schmidt for a 3rd is absolutely absurd and that doesn't bode well for the caliber of player we're looking to move.

If we move killer we don’t have to move Tony.

What’s wrong with people here

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

this sucks because it's not like Johnson is a bad player I think he still puts up 45 to 55 points easy in a top 6 role

He’s pretty bad

 

[ViD]

Columbus would be interested in Cirelli, just saying. Once we sign Dubois, give us a call

 

[Todd1a]

If we move killer we don’t have to move Tony.

What’s wrong with people here

you can't sign Serg and Tony with just moving killorn out

 

[These Are The Days]

Basically every damn team in the league is out of cap space and can't take guys like Killer and Johnson. But when it comes to our RFA's they suddenly have room? Come on man...

 

[Todd1a]

Basically every damn team in the league is out of cap space and can't take guys like Killer and Johnson. But when it comes to our RFA's they suddenly have room? Come on man...

lol very good point