Boston Bruins 2020-2021 Roster Discussion IV - STAY ON TOPIC

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BruinDust

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I already pointed out in my previous post how outside of the Bergeron line, Boston wasn't much better. If Granlund's issue is not having goal scorers around him then Boston is a bad landing spot. We've been trying to find a goal scorer for Krejci RW for 5+ years now.

And I'm not advocating for the guy. That being said, it is interesting to see his GPG last year equaling the 2nd best of his career.

And in Boston, like Nashville, lack of EV scoring was systemic as much as it was individual.
 

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Hes still young lots of talent. He might surprise

Absolutely. But we've been down this road before and I'd be fine with giving him (or anyone) time if this team didn't have such a small window.

IMO, they currently have about a 15% chance to win a cup next season if things go right.

IMO they are probably one legit, consistent top 6 winger away from having about a 25% chance to win a cup next season if things go right.

Add a top 4 defenseman as well and they move into a small group of 3 or 4 cup favorites, IMO.
 
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Brian La Rose of pro hockey rumors.com writes that Andreas Athanassiou could find a landing spot in Boston. He first mentions New Jersey as it has the most cap space in the League. However he goes on to opine that it may only take a max 2m one year “show me” contract to sign him. A speedy winger only 26, is one year away from a 30 goal season.

Signing AA should not affect the ongoing DeBrusk negotiations.
 

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Brian La Rose of pro hockey rumors.com writes that Andreas Athanassiou could find a landing spot in Boston. He first mentions New Jersey as it has the most cap space in the League. However he goes on to opine that it may only take a max 2m one year “show me” contract to sign him. A speedy winger only 26, is one year away from a 30 goal season.

Signing AA should not affect the ongoing DeBrusk negotiations.

Don't know much about him but like his stats...

Regular SeasonPlayoffs
SeasonTeamLgeGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPGAPtsPIM
2010-11London KnightsOHL5711112221-1160000
2011-12London KnightsOHL632215372222111450
2012-13Barrie ColtsOHL6629386730132212132511
2013-14Barrie ColtsOHL6649469552251139122
2013-14Grand Rapids GriffinsAHL21230060116
2014-15Grand Rapids GriffinsAHL551616322517165496
2015-16Grand Rapids GriffinsAHL2688169-662352
2015-16Detroit Red WingsNHL3795145151010
2016-17Detroit Red WingsNHL6418112928-7----------
2017-18Detroit Red WingsNHL7116173316-15----------
2018-19Detroit Red WingsNHL7630245438-9----------
2019-20Detroit Red WingsNHL4610142426-45----------
2019-20Edmonton OilersNHL91124-14000
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Brian La Rose of pro hockey rumors.com writes that Andreas Athanassiou could find a landing spot in Boston. He first mentions New Jersey as it has the most cap space in the League. However he goes on to opine that it may only take a max 2m one year “show me” contract to sign him. A speedy winger only 26, is one year away from a 30 goal season.

Signing AA should not affect the ongoing DeBrusk negotiations.

No, but it would add a bigger logjam of forwards looking for spots. Not only that but AA had 1 good year with 30G...in his other 4 seasons he only cracked 30 points once. He's not bumping Marchand or DeBrusk obviously so its either Bjork, Ritchie or Blidh. AA had 7 points more than Bjork last season (while playing roughly 100 more mintues) and Bjork is still only 23yr old and just got his first full season in. Unless he's signing for less than Bjork, I'd rather just go with Bjork. I can't see him signing to be a 4th liner, nor does he fit what Boston want's in its 4th liners.
 

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Don't know much about him but like his stats...

Regular SeasonPlayoffs
SeasonTeamLgeGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPGAPtsPIM
2010-11London KnightsOHL5711112221-1160000
2011-12London KnightsOHL632215372222111450
2012-13Barrie ColtsOHL6629386730132212132511
2013-14Barrie ColtsOHL6649469552251139122
2013-14Grand Rapids GriffinsAHL21230060116
2014-15Grand Rapids GriffinsAHL551616322517165496
2015-16Grand Rapids GriffinsAHL2688169-662352
2015-16Detroit Red WingsNHL3795145151010
2016-17Detroit Red WingsNHL6418112928-7----------
2017-18Detroit Red WingsNHL7116173316-15----------
2018-19Detroit Red WingsNHL7630245438-9----------
2019-20Detroit Red WingsNHL4610142426-45----------
2019-20Edmonton OilersNHL91124-14000
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Maybe I'm missing something, but what's so great about his stats?
 

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No, but it would add a bigger logjam of forwards looking for spots. Not only that but AA had 1 good year with 30G...in his other 4 seasons he only cracked 30 points once. He's not bumping Marchand or DeBrusk obviously so its either Bjork, Ritchie or Blidh. AA had 7 points more than Bjork last season (while playing roughly 100 more mintues) and Bjork is still only 23yr old and just got his first full season in. Unless he's signing for less than Bjork, I'd rather just go with Bjork. I can't see him signing to be a 4th liner, nor does he fit what Boston want's in its 4th liners.

To me you can add Athanassiou to the likes of Duclair and Spooner. Guys who have been able to produce at the NHL level but ultimately simply aren't consistent enough offensive performers to overlook all their other weaknesses at the NHL level. Hence why teams quickly give up on them.

Guys like Duclair and Athanassiou need to temper their expectations on their next contract if they want to stay in the NHL.
 

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Don't know much about him but like his stats...

Regular SeasonPlayoffs
SeasonTeamLgeGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPGAPtsPIM
2010-11London KnightsOHL5711112221-1160000
2011-12London KnightsOHL632215372222111450
2012-13Barrie ColtsOHL6629386730132212132511
2013-14Barrie ColtsOHL6649469552251139122
2013-14Grand Rapids GriffinsAHL21230060116
2014-15Grand Rapids GriffinsAHL551616322517165496
2015-16Grand Rapids GriffinsAHL2688169-662352
2015-16Detroit Red WingsNHL3795145151010
2016-17Detroit Red WingsNHL6418112928-7----------
2017-18Detroit Red WingsNHL7116173316-15----------
2018-19Detroit Red WingsNHL7630245438-9----------
2019-20Detroit Red WingsNHL4610142426-45----------
2019-20Edmonton OilersNHL91124-14000
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You'd love him, gooey soft and super fast
 

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Take it for what it’s worth. Eklund! Hockey Buzz! Go with it as you may. Hoffman is looking for a one year deal for five million and is signing shortly. The three teams involved are Montreal, Buffalo , and our Bruins. Just of the rumor press.
 

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Take it for what it’s worth. Eklund! Hockey Buzz! Go with it as you may. Hoffman is looking for a one year deal for five million and is signing shortly. The three teams involved are Montreal, Buffalo , and our Bruins. Just of the rumor press.
Can't see him coming to us.
Buffalo has all kinds of cap room and would be guaranteed PP time, with Ike and Hall.
I don't think he would like playing for Julien with his defence first system.
We simply cannot afford his contract, unless we move JDB or Moore.
 

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Take it for what it’s worth. Eklund! Hockey Buzz! Go with it as you may. Hoffman is looking for a one year deal for five million and is signing shortly. The three teams involved are Montreal, Buffalo , and our Bruins. Just of the rumor press.

I believe Montreal over the cap...Boston and Buffalo I can see happening.

There's a roadblock somewhere...thinking it's Boston and Hoffman.
 

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This infuriated me and why the Bruins need to load up

Michael Haley tells the real story behind his beatdown of David Backes.

I like Michael Haley but going after David Backes is clear garbage

Backes hasn’t been able to fight for years and do to his concussion history he shouldn’t

I was at that game and Haley saying Chara elbowed Kaner or whatever is hilarious- Kane pulled serious BS the entire shift

Good on a 40 something Chara for retaliation but more the reason they need a handful of guys who will drop them

Backes is one good punch from zululand

he’s playing and he’s fair game but he told Haley no

why I’m sick of a soft team

Haley talks tough and maybe there was no one else to go with the Bruins have gotten away from their style

Seriously If I’m Haley 0.0 I go after Backes - out of respect, age, concussion history I try and get a big hit on McAvoy or Carlo
 

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Can someone tell me if the bruins go over the cap what happens. Do they just pay a tax penalty or you stash players in the minors for the time being. Is it possible they pay a hidden tax like baseball does.
 

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My top 6

Marchand- Bergeron-Studnicka

DeBrusk- Krejci- Pastrnak

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Jack Studnicka
2019-20 Stats (Providence/AHL) – 60 games, 23 goals, 49 points
Drafted: Round 2 (No. 53 overall) — 2017

Who else did you expect?
Even before Studnicka impressed during limited minutes up in the Toronto bubble, the 21-year-old forward was already far and away the shining star of Boston's prospect pool, especially after his impressive scoring totals in the OHL (233 points in 252 games) translated over to his first full season against AHL competition (23 goals, 49 points in 60 games).
An explosive forward in the offensive zone with a quick stride and silky mitts, Studnicka can make a lot happen with the puck on his stick. But speaking back in July, Cassidy was quick to note that Studnicka's adherence to the finer details of his game brings along some comparisons to another skilled Bruins pivot.
“Like Bergy (Patrice Bergeron), he’s good at everything, but he’s not this flashy guy," Cassidy said. "And I do see that with Jack. He’s a second-effort player, never quits on a play, can make plays, smart, work both ends of the ice. I think Bergy’s shot is obviously ahead of Jack’s and rightfully so. Jack’s going to have to work on that part of it. I’m sure Bergy did as well over the years. Some of that has to do with getting stronger, some of that is knowing the league. A quick release is paramount if you want to score goals.
“Bergy started in the league as a right winger. Jack may have to do that, I don’t want to project — but when you look at Bergeron, Krejci, Coyle, Kuraly, Lindholm, we’re pretty strong down the middle, so that might be an opportunity for him to make our team on the wing. So he learns a different part of the game. I’m going to say there are some similarities at the same age. Listen, I hope he turns into the next Bergy, that’d be great for the franchise, would be great for the individual. It’d be great for us as coaches because he’s second to none in terms of a player and a person. So if that happens I think the Bruins will be in good shape for the next 10 years.”

Now, it's VERY unfair to expect Studnicka to develop into a player of Bergeron's caliber — but it's easy to see why Studnicka has the makings of an impactful top-six forward at the NHL level. With Boston's current pipeline of centers intact for the 2021 season, it would appear as though Studnicka's best shot at sticking with the big club to start would be on the wing — in which he will be competing for valuable minutes alongside the likes of Craig Smith, Ondrej Kase, Anders Bjork, Jake DeBrusk, Nick Ritchie, Zach Senyshyn and others.
And while there's no guarantee that Studnicka will be logging minutes next to Bergeron, Krejci or Coyle to open the new season, it seems rather inevitable that the gifted forward will be up in Boston and contributing at some point during the 2021 NHL campaign. For as much as Studnicka's skill is evident, it's his willingness to operate in Grade-A ice and drive to the net (despite still needing to pack on some weight) that stands out upon watching the tape — with his fearless approach often leading to a number of quality looks out on the ice.
 
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Can someone tell me if the bruins go over the cap what happens. Do they just pay a tax penalty or you stash players in the minors for the time being. Is it possible they pay a hidden tax like baseball does.

It's pretty brutal in terms of punishment- hefty fines between $1-$5m that will then count against their next year's cap, they could lose draft picks, be forced to forfeit games, have contracts voided, suspensions etc. The league has discretion I believe in what to do but this is a hard cap league where the hammer comes down.
 
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With some quick math and not going into details he would be in top 5 scoring goals on bruins last 4 years. Which isn't saying much but better than most bruins at producing goals.

Kind of odd to use 4 years as it gives him an edge over DeBrusk who only has played 3 years. If you do 3yr and factor in Craig Smith over the last 3 years, then AA is sitting 6th in goals just 7 ahead of Krejci. This is also factoring AA getting 16 minutes a night with roughly 2 minutes coming via the PP, which he probably isn't getting in Boston.
 

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It's pretty brutal in terms of punishment- hefty fines between $1-$5m that will then count against their next year's cap, they could lose draft picks, be forced to forfeit games, have contracts voided, suspensions etc. The league has discretion I believe in what to do but this is a hard cap league where the hammer comes down.

I would think this season might be different give the state of things. It was not unreasonable for teams to expect to have 3-4M extra cap space this season. Covid threw wrench into all that leaving many teams over the cap with few options to unload salary.
I would imagine the league would allow teams to be over the cap but teams would only be allowed dress a cap compliant roster. Pretty sure I heard a clip about a month back with Vegas owner suggesting this is what would happen but it was just a guess nothing concrete.
 
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I say stand pat and watch teams over or close to cap with ridiculous players signings strangle themselves and need cap teams to giving them a helping hand. Donny is doing the right thing here.

Ah the Mikey O’Connell playbook. That worked so well last time they sat on their hands claiming cap space when they implemented the cap. They ended up with Zamanov
 
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