Speculation: 2019 Trade Deadline IV

[Don Nachbaur 26]

Frost

Could only hope.

 

[flyersfromquebec]

If, by some miracle, sunday morning we are 2 points back or equal to a playoff spot, I could see a trade for Stone. Still trading Simmonds, Macdonalds and Raffl.

Dont know what it would take but I could see something around 1st 2019, 2nd 2020 + prospect. I know Fletcher could wait and try to sign him this summer, but I playoff serie with Hart in net is really something I wanna see soon lol. Plus getting to know the flyers organisation he will maybe sign here before free agency.

 

[Striiker]

Could only hope.

There’s no sure things when it comes to prospects, but he’s got the right skill-set if we’re looking for that type of player.

Most importantly, he won’t cost us anything and weaken our roster elsewhere.

 

[baudib1]

I wouldn't give up anything for Stone or anyone else who is a UFA unless we get an agreement that he'll sign. We're not like real buyers here.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I wouldn't give up anything for Stone or anyone else who is a UFA unless we get an agreement that he'll sign. We're not like real buyers here.

You just know Holmgren is chomping at the bit. Stay strong, Fletcher.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

I would think it’d be basic negotiating that if fletcher pulled the trigger on someone like stone they’d have an extension agreed upon. They wouldn’t be a rental.

 

[Hiesenberg]

I wouldn't give up anything for Stone or anyone else who is a UFA unless we get an agreement that he'll sign. We're not like real buyers here.

Guys like Stone/Panarin wouldn't be good trade deadline day targets unless you can get a quick deal done on an extension. Way too much risk.

 

[Magua]

Ya he's not a special shooter. I think you're underselling him quite a bit though.

He's got 25 5v5 points and if you cut him down to 7 goals instead of 13 he's still scoring at 2.03/60. Terrific possession numbers too. He looks better on PP2 for Toronto than anyone we have currently.

Half his points are assisted/scored by Matthews, Marner, Tavares. Playing on the 3rd line here, will he get those linemates? Should he play higher with the talent we have and will have starting next season?

He has a -4 xGF% fwiw, if you just want to use Corsi. I'm not underselling him. He's a good player. I'm not trading the haul we can get for Simmonds for Johnsson. He has all the ingredients of a player who likely comes down to statistical earth in the future, while still being a solid 3rd line/middle 6 player. This organization -- about to add Frost, Farabee, Allison, Laczynski, etc. -- does not need to go trading a 1st+ for him to then re-sign him to a deal coming off this likely unsustainable season. That's my two cents.

 

[Striiker]

Say it with me: “we don’t need another mediocre winger”.












Not unless we can dump Ghost in the process.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Say it with me: “we don’t need another mediocre winger”.












Not unless we can dump Ghost in the process.

Read that like Tina Turner sang it

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Half his points are assisted/scored by Matthews, Marner, Tavares. Playing on the 3rd line here, will he get those linemates? Should he play higher with the talent we have and will have starting next season?

He has a -4 xGF% fwiw, if you just want to use Corsi. I'm not underselling him. He's a good player. I'm not trading the haul we can get for Simmonds for Johnsson. He has all the ingredients of a player who likely comes down to statistical earth in the future, while still being a solid 3rd line/middle 6 player. This organization -- about to add Frost, Farabee, Allison, Laczynski, etc. -- does not need to go trading a 1st+ for him to then re-sign him to a deal coming off this likely unsustainable season. That's my two cents.

That’s a reasonable stance. Before you labeled him a nondescript third liner & nothing the Flyers didn’t already have, while advocating that Laughton was more valuable. I labeled him a speedy 24 y/o winger capable of 20 goals, which seems accurate, & considering he’d be 5th on the team in points, I don’t think he’s as fungible as you first painted. But your revised take seems more accurate. I still would prefer him to a late first in this particular draft.

 

[flyersfromquebec]

Say it with me: “we don’t need another mediocre winger”










Not unless we can dump Ghost in the process.

Stone?

 

[nuclear reactor]

Has a player of Stone’s caliber and age been traded at the deadline and then not re-signed? I just don’t know if he’s going to make it to free agency. That team is going to have a big advantage with the 8th contact year.

 

[BernieParent]

Stone Foote.

There's a cream for that.

 

[BernieParent]

If, by some miracle, sunday morning we are 2 points back or equal to a playoff spot, I could see a trade for Stone. Still trading Simmonds, Macdonalds and Raffl.

Dont know what it would take but I could see something around 1st 2019, 2nd 2020 + prospect. I know Fletcher could wait and try to sign him this summer, but I playoff serie with Hart in net is really something I wanna see soon lol. Plus getting to know the flyers organisation he will maybe sign here before free agency.

My knee-jerk reaction is no way no how, given that the majority of trades at the TDL are at a premium. BUT, if Fletcher can open the prospect vault and hand over a few shiny pieces not named Frost or Farabee (although I don't know if I would even consider Farabee untouchable for a signed Stone) and a 1st, then we could be in business. The good thing is that the Senators need everything.

 

[Curufinwe]

Hextall built an entire prospect pool of two-way forwards. We don't need more of that. Unless it's one of the best two-way players in the game like Stone, of course.

We need an offensive dynamo. A Panarin, Skinner, Duchene type.

Frost and Farabee are basically smaller Couturiers.

NAK, Konency, Allison, Rubtsov, Laberge, Ratcliffe, O’Brien... all drafted for their checking.

 

[baudib1]

Has a player of Stone’s caliber and age been traded at the deadline and then not re-signed? I just don’t know if he’s going to make it to free agency. That team is going to have a big advantage with the 8th contact year.

I would argue he's not in Stone's "caliber" but Shattenkirk was the top UFA rental and left Washington for NYR.

Pretty sure there are others.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I just want the best players, don’t care what style they play or what certain attributes they possess.

 

[Magua]

I just want the best players, don’t care what style they play or what certain attributes they possess.

Agreed. Snipers come in all sort of shapes and sizes.

 

[Cootsfanclub]

One thing about Vasi starting today is that we're probably getting backup vezina'd tomorrow

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Agreed. Snipers come in all sort of shapes and sizes.

Don’t forget toughness too. We can’t have Giroux getting hit like he did on Saturday.

 

[baudib1]

I'd prefer un-nerdy (dis-nerdy?) players.

 

[deadhead]

Hextall built an entire prospect pool of two-way forwards. We don't need more of that. Unless it's one of the best two-way players in the game like Stone, of course.

We need an offensive dynamo. A Panarin, Skinner, Duchene type.

I thought we already had Voracek and Ghost?
Striiker tells me they're elite offensive players, as is Giroux.
How many do we need?

 

[Curufinwe]

Simmer hit Mantha so hard that the world went in reverse and prevented Giroux from getting hit. That’s what super toughness can do.

 

[flyersfromquebec]

Columbus is losing right now 2-0