Speculation: 2019 Trade Deadline IV

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[TheKingPin]

Patrick is a good player. Don’t trade him for Huberdeau.

 

[The Madrigal]

I want to make it very clear that I am one of the people who thinks the Flyers should absolutely keep Ghost. That being said, I really feel like for whatever reason Fletcher wants to trade him. Whether he doesn't like him all that much, or he just feels like he's a great asset to use in a trade it just seems like he won't be a part of the long term plans. Whether it be at the deadline or over the offseason (I hope I am wrong) I think he will be traded.

 

[The Madrigal]

Patrick is a good player. Don’t trade him for Huberdeau.

I just don't get why people keep wanting to trade centers or defenseman for a winger. We could use another stud wing for sure. That said, good centers and defenseman are always harder to come by and the Flyers have a lot of really good wing prospects.

 

[AdamParrot]

Our fanbase is still stupid. How long a lot of fans wanted to trade Couturier? Now they want to trade Ghost, who had over 60 points (!!!) last year and was in Norris talking...

UNBELIEVABLE. CRAZY!

 

[Rebels57]

Patrick is a good player. Don’t trade him for Huberdeau.

Not a swap i'd even remotely consider.

Strength down the middle is a key to winning a Cup.

Even if, conservatively, Patrick is a 60 point two-way Center for us, that is going to be huge. You don't trade a 20 year old Center with Patricks potential for a non-elite winger.

 

[Rebels57]

As for Simmonds, what are some package from the teams generally considered to be potential landing spots that everyone would be happy with?

 

[Tripod]

I just don't get why people keep wanting to trade centers or defenseman for a winger. We could use another stud wing for sure. That said, good centers and defenseman are always harder to come by and the Flyers have a lot of really good wing prospects.

Boy we have been in agreement a lot in 2019!

Just look at the UFS'a available....tons of wingers that are above average...very few D and C worth going for. And as you said, our own prospect depth is way more littered with wingers than C with high upside.

 

[TheKingPin]

I just don't get why people keep wanting to trade centers or defenseman for a winger. We could use another stud wing for sure. That said, good centers and defenseman are always harder to come by and the Flyers have a lot of really good wing prospects.

Not a swap i'd even remotely consider.

Strength down the middle is a key to winning a Cup.

Even if, conservatively, Patrick is a 60 point two-way Center for us, that is going to be huge. You don't trade a 20 year old Center with Patricks potential for a non-elite winger.

Absolutely. If you get 75-60-40 from Couts Patrick Frost you are going to be very hard to beat. If we sign one of the big UFA wings we are pretty set for the next 10 years on D, goalie and forward.

 

[The Madrigal]

As for Simmonds, what are some package from the teams generally considered to be potential landing spots that everyone would be happy with?

NASHVILLE:
Fabbro
Tolvanen
First round pick and Allard

WINNIPEG:
Roslovic
First round pick and Lemieux

BOSTON:
First round pick and ONE of Donato, Frederic, or JFK

TORONTO:
Andreas Johnsson and a second round pick

 

[The Madrigal]

Boy we have been in agreement a lot in 2019!

My man!!

Just look at the UFS'a available....tons of wingers that are above average...very few D and C worth going for. And as you said, our own prospect depth is way more littered with wingers than C with high upside.

That's how it is pretty much every year. It's so much harder to find talent on D and at C then it is at wing.

 

[Rebels57]

I feel like Boston is going to be make a substantial offer for Simmonds, especially now that Pastrnak is out for a few weeks.

I'd be down with something like Donato + 1st. It's a lot for Boston to give up for a rental, but Simmonds is going to be in high demand and they are in win-now mode.

 

[TheKingPin]

As for Simmonds, what are some package from the teams generally considered to be potential landing spots that everyone would be happy with?

At this point, take a first and be happy. I think we could get a + but that would just be trying to extract the most value. Another year of 2 1st rounders is good with me.

 

[LEIFey]

We would be lucky to get a return like that for Simmonds. That Nashville return is way too rich. Also is Winnipeg even interested?

 

[Striiker]

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[Young Sandwich]

I just don't get why people keep wanting to trade centers or defenseman for a winger. We could use another stud wing for sure. That said, good centers and defenseman are always harder to come by and the Flyers have a lot of really good wing prospects.

Have you been taking bong rips lately dude? You've been so much more civil around here lately . 2019, the year of The Madrigal.

 

[Striiker]

Also, coach usage and GM opinion are two very different things.

Gordon being stupid means absolutely nothing when guessing if you think Fletcher would even consider moving Ghost.

 

[The Madrigal]

Have you been taking bong rips lately dude? You've been so much more civil around here lately . 2019, the year of The Madrigal.

Every morning bro, breakfast of champions

 

[TheKingPin]

I feel like Boston is going to be make a substantial offer for Simmonds, especially now that Pastrnak is out for a few weeks.

I'd be down with something like Donato + 1st. It's a lot for Boston to give up for a rental, but Simmonds is going to be in high demand and they are in win-now mode.

I was just thinking the market is improving. Pasta out. Ferland off the market. Boyle makes Simmonds at least a 1st.

I think Donato + 1st is a lot though. I’d be thrilled.

 

[Rebels57]

At this point, take a first and be happy. I think we could get a + but that would just be trying to extract the most value. Another year of 2 1st rounders is good with me.

Yeah i'd be happy with just a 1st too, but I think a few teams will offer a 1st and someone is going to step in and outbid. Boston makes a lot of sense.

 

[Rebels57]

I was just thinking the market is improving. Pasta out. Ferland off the market. Boyle makes Simmonds at least a 1st.

I think Donato + 1st is a lot though. I’d be thrilled.

I'm not even sure what to make of Donato. He looked awesome during his first call-up but nearly as good since and is back in the AHL this season. When attached to a 1st though he's an intriguing wild card.

 

[Young Sandwich]

Every morning bro, breakfast of champions

 

[The Madrigal]

I was just thinking the market is improving. Pasta out. Ferland off the market. Boyle makes Simmonds at least a 1st.

I think Donato + 1st is a lot though. I’d be thrilled.

I have said for two months now and will continue to say that I think Simmonds should be worth a first + OR an elite prospect/young third liner and possibly a second. What Fletcher is looking for will be a factor though. Does he want futures for Simmonds or assets that will help right away.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

We would be lucky to get a return like that for Simmonds. That Nashville return is way too rich. Also is Winnipeg even interested?

We don’t truly know who’s interested to be honest. There hasn’t been a whole lot of information out there on Simmonds other than he’s likely to get traded & there should be a good market for him.

 

[The Madrigal]

If I'm Fletcher I want a little bit more from any team in the east as opposed to the west for Simmonds. I think a first + Donato is a fair ask when considering the Flyers would be strengthening their chances of coming out of the east and possibly winning a cup. Also, I still like Donato but his value was higher at the end of the last season after struggling at the NHL level this year.