GDT: 2019 Tampa Bay Lightning Training Camp

[DFC]

Not just Palat, Johnson just isn't an effective center or offensive producer on his own anymore. He's been stapled to Point's wing the last 2 years and even with that his production is nothing to write home about.

I think we move on from both of them once their contracts/NMC's are up.

Yeah. I just think Palat has more impact on his teammates, so him being unable, for whatever reason, to be the Palat of old, has hurt a lot.

 

[LTIR Trickery]

I didn't see much of CV, how was he?

 

[DFC]

Impressions of Shattenkirk? I only noticed him for good things, but wasn't paying the closest attention.

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

Probably due to Hoffman's hit last night

 

[TeslaCoilFan]

 

[Foxtail]

NHL Watchability Rankings: The top 15

Avs fan here in peace wasn't sure where to post this and see you in the Cup finals haha

Edit: also sshh don't tell the Leaf fans we are ahead

 

[Maelmoor]

Not just Palat, Johnson just isn't an effective center or offensive producer on his own anymore. He's been stapled to Point's wing the last 2 years and even with that his production is nothing to write home about.

I think we move on from both of them once their contracts/NMC's are up.

He was our best even strength scorer last season? Given his contract I would say he is good value for the money. Had he been given Points PP time TyJo would've scored 40+ goals.

Yes Palat sucked last season but seems unfair to bundle TyJo with him.

 

[Sky04]

He was our best even strength scorer last season? Given his contract I would say he is good value for the money. Had he been given Points PP time TyJo would've scored 40+ goals.

Yes Palat sucked last season but seems unfair to bundle TyJo with him.

That's not how it works, some people suck on the Power Play so it doesn't matter if you give them more minutes they're not going to produce. Johnson averaged 1:36 PP time a game and scored 1 PPG goal, you could quadruple that and he wouldn't score 40 goals.

I didn't say he was awful value, I said his regression as an offensive producer has limited our flexibility, he can only play and be effective next to Point where he's been stapled the last 2 seasons. We move on from him after his full NMC or his contract ends because once Point finds another linemate Johnson becomes an expensive ~40 point depth winger which is replaceable by cheaper players.

 

[Outl4w]

NHL Watchability Rankings: The top 15

Avs fan here in peace wasn't sure where to post this and see you in the Cup finals haha

Edit: also sshh don't tell the Leaf fans we are ahead

You have a nice core as well, please resign them for less then the LEAFS. Then Barstool sports can excuse your team of cheating next.

 

[Maelmoor]

That's not how it works, some people suck on the Power Play so it doesn't matter if you give them more minutes they're not going to produce. Johnson averaged 1:36 PP time a game and scored 1 PPG goal, you could quadruple that and he wouldn't score 40 goals.

I didn't say he was awful value, I said his regression as an offensive producer has limited our flexibility, he can only play and be effective next to Point where he's been stapled the last 2 seasons. We move on from him after his full NMC or his contract ends because once Point finds another linemate Johnson becomes an expensive ~40 point depth winger which is replaceable by cheaper players.

While that is true, it also depends who you played with etc, so I guess it depends how you look at it. Either way, 29 goals and I thought he played good overall, so I don't agree that is easy to replace with someone cheaper.

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

So your Lightning game 1:

Forwards: 12
Stamkos, Kucherov, Johnson, Verhaeghe, Maroon, Palat, Killorn, Joseph, Witkowski, Gourde, Cirelli, Smith

Defensemen: 8
Hedman, Schenn, Shattenkirk, McDonagh, Cernak, Sergachev, Rutta, Coburn

Goaltenders: 2
McElhinney, Vasilevskiy

Injuried: 3
Point, Volkov, Paquette

 

[Maelmoor]

I just feel that Martel makes the least difference of the players remaining, so was the right call to send him down.

 

[Todd1a]

With out Point for at least a few weeks what does our # 1 power play unit look like ? Stamkos, Johnson, Kucherov, Hedman and Gourde ?

 

[JoVel]

With out Point for at least a few weeks what does our # 1 power play unit look like ? Stamkos, Johnson, Kucherov, Hedman and Gourde ?

I think Johnson taking Point's position on the slot would be the most sensible option.

 

[Felonious Python]

I didn't see much of CV, how was he?

More impressive than your CV.

 

[Rschmitz]

Impressions of Shattenkirk? I only noticed him for good things, but wasn't paying the closest attention.

Like he was created in a lab to play in this offense. Defensively he's been very solid, and based on the pre-season he'll be getting PP2 minutes.

Good choice by him to come here

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

I think Johnson taking Point's position on the slot would be the most sensible option.

Yes. Although won't be Gourde. Maroon will get the first crack at being the net front.

 

[DFC]

Yes. Although won't be Gourde. Maroon will get the first crack at being the net front.

That spot's not really net-front. It's more like corner/side/behind the net. I think it might be Palat to start the year, and I think Cirelli would be great in that role. Johnson in Point's bumper spot.

I think we might see Maroon on PP2 in front of the net.

 

[Tampacuseforever]

So your Lightning game 1:

Forwards: 12
Stamkos, Kucherov, Johnson, Verhaeghe, Maroon, Palat, Killorn, Joseph, Witkowski, Gourde, Cirelli, Smith

Defensemen: 8
Hedman, Schenn, Shattenkirk, McDonagh, Cernak, Sergachev, Rutta, Coburn

Goaltenders: 2
McElhinney, Vasilevskiy

Injuried: 3
Point, Volkov, Paquette

defensemen 7

Scheen to Syracuse

Injured 2

Volkov to Syracuse

They will go with one extra Ruuta. I see them collecting Cap Space before sitting guys.

 

[The Macho King]

So your Lightning game 1:

Forwards: 12
Stamkos, Kucherov, Johnson, Verhaeghe, Maroon, Palat, Killorn, Joseph, Witkowski, Gourde, Cirelli, Smith

Defensemen: 8
Hedman, Schenn, Shattenkirk, McDonagh, Cernak, Sergachev, Rutta, Coburn

Goaltenders: 2
McElhinney, Vasilevskiy

Injuried: 3
Point, Volkov, Paquette

Issue with that is we're over the roster limit by two. I assume Point will go on LTIR, but unless Paquette is also going on LTIR, we'll have to send someone down.

 

[Felonious Python]

Hedman didn't make the team.

 

[The Macho King]

Hedman didn't make the team.

Good. More icetime for Rutta.

 

[Sky04]

Don't see Witkowski lasting long at all, guy does not have the footspeed to be in the NHL, he was burned enough on his last stint here.

They might be throwing him a bone, thought his main role coming back would be like like Conachers in the AHL given his history.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Sounds like they want to keep Witkowski and put Schenn on waivers.

 

[JFleegs]

Don't see Witkowski lasting long at all, guy does not have the footspeed to be in the NHL, he was burned enough on his last stint here.

They might be throwing him a bone, thought his main role coming back would be like like Conachers in the AHL given his history.

Did you watch the last preseason game? Witkowski looks significantly faster than his last stint with us.