Prospect Info: 2019 NHL Draft Talk Part III

[lhsgolf19]

2019 NHL Mock Draft: Predicting a turbulent first round - Sportsnet.ca

Sportsnet mock has Turcotte to Detroit 6OA. I'll take that.

If Turcotte is on the board at 6... The Organization might take 10 seconds to make their pick lol... They might start the walk up before LA finishes their announcement ha

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

I'm sure there are teams talking and everything to gauge the value of some of the picks around them but theres no way this happens until pick#5 is made. Vancouver likely has one guy theyre targeting in that range that they wanna move up for so he'll have to fall. Theres also probably guys Detroit really wants, I would guess if Byram falls it would take a lot for Detroit to move that pick given what the team needs

It would take a massive amount to make me move off of 6 to 10. 6 to 7 or 8 if there are like Dach, Cozens, and Podkolzin still on the board at 6? Okay. But to go back to 10, it's not gonna be 10+40 for 6. It's gonna be something a person would look it and say "HOLY CHEESE AND RICE" I'm not big on the next rung of guys (Boldy, Caufield, Newhook, etc.) To willingly drop down, it's gotta be a knock the socks off trade, not a fair value deal.

Unless it happened to be a trade back that someone roped in NYR and got Trouba here. Now that won't happen because NYR already robbed Winnipeg blind, but that's what would make me give up 6.

Like

Give
Wings: 6OA + non-Zadina/Veleno/Hronek piece (Cholo?)
Vancouver: 10 OA + 40OA
NYR: Trouba

Get
Wings: Trouba + 40 OA
NYR: 10 OA + non-Zadina/Veleno/Hronek piece (Cholo?)
Vancouver: 6 OA

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Oh that's talking dirty to me. Put me in that Peyton Krebs territory.

6th is Peyton Krebs territory too.

 

[Hen Kolland]

6th is Peyton Krebs territory too.

I mean any territory is Krebs territory for me personally. But I haven’t seen a single credible source that has even suggested he’s on the radar.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

I mean any territory is Krebs territory for me personally. But I haven’t seen a single credible source that has even suggested he’s on the radar.

He's got a destroyed achilles, right? Maybe Peyton Krebs territory moves back to the 20s.

 

[Marky9er]

If they are going to take Podkolzin I'd rather they did it at 10 than 6, I'll say that. I don't even know what that means, but yeah.

 

[Hen Kolland]

He's got a destroyed achilles, right? Maybe Peyton Krebs territory moves back to the 20s.

Destroyed Achilles? Partial laceration. According to everything I’ve seen, unfortunate, but a low concern injury.

Krebs will not last much longer than 10.

Edit: if he’s even available at 10. Pronman mocked him to Anaheim at 9 recently. He’s a really f***ing good player, even with the injury

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

I mean any territory is Krebs territory for me personally. But I haven’t seen a single credible source that has even suggested he’s on the radar.

What or who do you consider a credible source? Like you I haven’t seen him linked to our team, but then again I question who really knows who we actually like (in terms of public sources). Whether we like him or not I would have no issues with him at 6.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

It would take a massive amount to make me move off of 6 to 10. 6 to 7 or 8 if there are like Dach, Cozens, and Podkolzin still on the board at 6? Okay. But to go back to 10, it's not gonna be 10+40 for 6. It's gonna be something a person would look it and say "HOLY CHEESE AND RICE" I'm not big on the next rung of guys (Boldy, Caufield, Newhook, etc.) To willingly drop down, it's gotta be a knock the socks off trade, not a fair value deal.

Unless it happened to be a trade back that someone roped in NYR and got Trouba here. Now that won't happen because NYR already robbed Winnipeg blind, but that's what would make me give up 6.

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Give
Wings: 6OA + non-Zadina/Veleno/Hronek piece (Cholo?)
Vancouver: 10 OA + 40OA
NYR: Trouba

Get
Wings: Trouba + 40 OA
NYR: 10 OA + non-Zadina/Veleno/Hronek piece (Cholo?)
Vancouver: 6 OA

Lmao you guys are still after Trouba via trade. Smh. GET OVER IT!!

 

[Hen Kolland]

What or who do you consider a credible source? Like you I haven’t seen him linked to our team, but then again I question who really knows who we actually like (in terms of public sources). Whether we like him or not I would have no issues with him at 6.

Well the overwhelming idea is that these guys are tuned in to a certain extent. Our beat writers haven’t mentioned him at all and the national writers haven’t indicated that his name has come up in discussions they have had.

I’ve been the biggest Krebs supporter on this board and I imagine nobody will have him higher on their final board.

 

[Frk It]

Well the overwhelming idea is that these guys are tuned in to a certain extent. Our beat writers haven’t mentioned him at all and the national writers haven’t indicated that his name has come up in discussions they have had.

I’ve been the biggest Krebs supporter on this board and I imagine nobody will have him higher on their final board.

Did you post a board?

 

[Ezekial]

Well the overwhelming idea is that these guys are tuned in to a certain extent. Our beat writers haven’t mentioned him at all and the national writers haven’t indicated that his name has come up in discussions they have had.

I’ve been the biggest Krebs supporter on this board and I imagine nobody will have him higher on their final board.

If your board is leaked to the media your organization has failed miserably. Many of these writers think about fit and piggy back others ideas and formulate an opinion. Much like HF boards posters.
Some are plugged, sure, but even the plugged ones only get told things they're supposed to hear.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Did you post a board?

I can’t remember if I did to be completely honest. I know I’ve posted several throughout the offseason of what I was feeling at any given moment. And I posted my gut feeling on the top 10

 

[Frk It]

I can’t remember if I did to be completely honest. I know I’ve posted several throughout the offseason of what I was feeling at any given moment. And I posted my gut feeling on the top 10

Commit to one and post it here: Prospect Info: - Draft Boards - Specific to our own Member Draft Boards

 

[Hen Kolland]

If your board is leaked to the media your organization has failed miserably. Many of these writers think about fit and piggy back others ideas and formulate an opinion. Much like HF boards posters.
Some are plugged, sure, but even the plugged ones only get told things they're supposed to hear.

That’s very true.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Commit to one and post it here: Prospect Info: - Draft Boards - Specific to our own Member Draft Boards

There’s probably one in there already hahaha. But it doesn’t necessarily reflect how I feel right now.

Honestly, I could look any of you dead in the eye and say I would be comfortable picking Krebs as high as 3. Just have that feeling about the kid that I can’t really explain; he has a bit of everything I would want out of a prospect besides the draft year production.

 

[lhsgolf19]

Says we initiated the Talks... Looking at possibly Seider or Soderstrom

 

[Hen Kolland]

Says we initiated the Talks... Looking at possibly Seider or Soderstrom

If this is what he wants, then he’d be better served finding a way to trade up into the 20 range when these players could still be available.

I’m fine with positioning ourselves, but why trade down to 10 in order to still “reach” for a RHD.

 

[GBFP]

If we initiated than there would be little reason for Vancouver to play ball - especially for 40 OA. Probably looking at a second rounder next year if Vancouver is at all interested.

 

[Zetterbeer]

If this is what he wants, then he’d be better served finding a way to trade up into the 20 range when these players could still be available.

I’m fine with positioning ourselves, but why trade down to 10 in order to still “reach” for a RHD.

This seems a bit ridiculous.

"The Detroit Red Wings are looking at a situation where they're looking pretty solid on the left side. With Dennis Cholowski, with Filip Hronek, you got two players there who project as really high end defenseman at the NHL level, and where things start to get a bit sketchy is at that right side"

Well first of all, Hronek is a RD and if Cholowski makes our left side "solid" then I must be missing something?

 

[DInTheB]

Wouldn’t be shocked if we went from 10 to 15 or so.

 

[Hen Kolland]

This seems a bit ridiculous.

"The Detroit red wings are looking at a situation where they're looking pretty solid on the left side. With Dennis Cholowski, with Filip Hronek, you got two players there who project as really high end defenseman at the NHL level, and where things start to get a bit sketchy is at that right side"

Well first of all, Hronek is a RD and if Cholowski makes our left side "solid" then I must be missing something?

I mean there were some people convinced the Wings were taking Seider. I think that Seider or Soderstrom are fine players, but realistically this team needs an impact player. Both suggestions are what I would consider safe options but lack the high potential to be impact players.

 

[Frk It]

If this is what he wants, then he’d be better served finding a way to trade up into the 20 range when these players could still be available.

I’m fine with positioning ourselves, but why trade down to 10 in order to still “reach” for a RHD.

You don’t think a GM with direct access to other GM’s has a better idea of where players will go as opposed to mock drafts or rankings from public scouting services?

Not sure I even buy this rumor, but I could very easily see NHL teams liking these 2 players more than you are suggesting based on the info we all have available.

 

[Ishad]

Not a fan of trading down.

 

[Zetterbeer]

I mean there were some people convinced the Wings were taking Seider. I think that Seider or Soderstrom are fine players, but realistically this team needs an impact player. Both suggestions are what I would consider safe options but lack the high potential to be impact players.

Exactly, and if we're really wanting a potential game breaker on defense, I don't see the logic in reaching for a RHD and not just taking Broberg at 6. Maybe we are really high on Seider, but like you said, why not trade some assets to move up from 35 into the 20's or late teens? Grabbing two potential elite players at 6 and say 21 is much better than moving back and grabbing an extra 2nd rounder in the process.