GDT: 2019 IIHF World Championship III (OP Warning)

[Scooooooooooooot]

But Kakko has been better than Hughes in two tournaments already that both participated in and also played against each other in the final.

How was he better at the WJC? I feel like its revisionist history and very reactionary to say that because he scored the gold medal goal that he was overall better.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

But Kakko has been better than Hughes in two tournaments already that both participated in and also played against each other in the final.

How did Kakko have a better U18?

 

[None Shall Pass]

Wow, dude scored against a country that has produced fewer NHL players than the state of New Jersey. This changes everything.

 

[Jussi]

When you got TSN making it sound like it’s a done deal, yeah there isn’t much to discuss.

Mostly Button. Bob Errey said after the USA game that he would take Kakko over Hughes.

 

[Better Call Sal]

We're fine. Once Kakko gets drafted by the Rags, he'll start pigging out on all the overpriced food in NYC.

We'll see who's laughing last when he balloons 50 pounds!

 

[OmNomNom]

the bolded is key though. Shero, Castron, and their team would have had to have Kaapo 1b to Jack's 1a BEFORE the WC. I find it very hard to believe that was the case especially given Jack's U18 performance while Kakko stayed home to train for the WC.

personally, i don't get why kakko wasn't ranked a 1b prospect, or if this tournament moves the needle to that. like scouts had it ranked:

Hughes


Kakko







Tier 3 (rest of the ~top 7)

 

[Jussi]

How did Kakko have a better U18?

Last year when they both participated and faced off in the final.

 

[Azathoth]

I think the problem is recency bias. This tournament is a single data point for both players. There are many many other data points that will be considered by Castron and co. before they make a decision. Maybe they truly are closer then say Matthews and Laine or McDavid and Eichel (ok that one probably isn't fair but still).

 

[OmNomNom]

We're fine. Once Kakko gets drafted by the Rags, he'll start pigging out on all the overpriced food in NYC.

We'll see who's laughing last when he balloons 50 pounds!

i hope he stays away from the glutenous dollar pizza though

we already know some finns have a penchant for pizza (pulju)

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Last year when they both participated and faced off in the final.

So one game made Kakko's WJC better?

We wholeheartedly disagree then.

 

[Scooooooooooooot]

Last year when they both participated and faced off in the final.

who won the MVP for that tournament ??

 

[Emperoreddy]

personally, i don't get why kakko wasn't ranked a 1b prospect, or if this tournament moves the needle to that. like scouts had it ranked:

Hughes


Kakko







Tier 3 (rest of the ~top 7)

Because they watch and factor in more then one tournament.

 

[OmNomNom]

Last year when they both participated and faced off in the final.

but hughes had 12 points in 7 games there, and kakko had 10 points in 7

 

[Jussi]

Wow, dude scored against a country that has produced fewer NHL players than the state of New Jersey. This changes everything.

And have more NHL players in their team in this tournament than Finland...

 

[vtdevils2k]

Yeah people act like its over and Kakko should go first every time he scores a goal in the tournament. Would love to see jack get into a little groove here so people could just chill.

Tell that to the coach of team USA....granted the team has more NHL players than Finland by far.

Jack simply won’t be getting the minutes he needs to get in that groove. He will have to do something with the minutes he’s been given, which have been small.

Should have at least 3-5 points but that’s hockey.

 

[Better Call Sal]

i hope he stays away from the glutenous dollar pizza though

we already know some finns have a penchant for pizza (pulju)

Lucky for us, Jack can use a weight gain!

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

who won the MVP for that tournament ??

Wait now I wanna know lol. Who won MVP?

 

[Jussi]

but hughes had 12 points in 7 games there, and kakko had 10 points in 7

And Kakko scored in the final and Finland won.

 

[Azathoth]

Last year when they both participated and faced off in the final.

Unless I'm misreading something didn't Hughes have 12 pts in 7 games to Kaako's 10 pts in 7 games?

 

[OmNomNom]

Because they watch and factor in more then one tournament.

so you think that the gap between them (though it's grown smaller with this tournament, i'd assume, since (though we hate to admit it) playing against men is a big + for kaapo), was big enough where this tournament still places him in a solid #2 spot?

 

[OmNomNom]

And Kakko scored in the final and Finland won.

so what?

alec martinez scored the stanley cup winner for the kings in 2014

but that doesn't mean he's the best player in whole 2014 playoffs

 

[Jussi]

who won the MVP for that tournament ??

Meh, IIHF tournament selections are always hilarious, Sweden's goalie won MVP in like all their game when none of the Swedish fans agreed on that.

 

[Emperoreddy]

so you think that the gap between them (though it's grown smaller with this tournament, i'd assume, since (though we hate to admit it) playing against men is a big + for kaapo), was big enough where this tournament still places him in a solid #2 spot?

Easily. The playing against men doesn’t mean nearly as much as some want it to be.

This tournament doesn’t mean much st all. It just reaffirms what I already know.

 

[OmNomNom]

Meh, IIHF tournament selections are always hilarious, Sweden's goalie won MVP in like all their game when none of the Swedish fans agreed on that.

now you're just making excuses to suit your agenda

if kakko gets MVP of the tournament but nico hischier scores the game winner, would you be saying the same thing

 

[mtnet]

It's tiresome how so many with no stake in NJD suddenly feel compelled in recent weeks to come to this team forum every day, several times a day, to debate so vigorously as to why KK > JH.

Unless you're being paid to advise our executive scouting or management, give it a rest already.

 

[OmNomNom]

Easily. The playing against men doesn’t mean nearly as much as some want it to be.

This tournament doesn’t mean much st all. It just reaffirms what I already know.

(FYI, this is what a discussion looks like)