2019 Entry Draft Thread Part IX

[Mrb1p]

Even moreso when he totally dominated the Slovaks in their first encounters.

 

[G0bias]

Even moreso when he totally dominated the Slovaks in their first encounters.

If people are really bothered with how he does against junior aged competition, they only have to watch his U20s. Where he was stellar. (All his games are on YT)

There's a silver lining, as this just likely means he'll be among the many options when our time comes to pick, hopefully.

 

[Habs Icing]

He's looked terrible at the u18s in general, especially defensively.

I'm glad you brought that up. In this tourny he has not lived up to the hype.

He’s not my favourite either but you can’t don’t one a guy because of one bad 1 week tournament

That's one way of looking at it. He had a bad week. Another way is that he was exposed by stiffer competition. Who knows the truth? That's why the scouts get paid the measly bucks, to make difficult decisions.

 

[Janne Niinimaa]

Some of the hot takes in this thread based off a short tournament are disgusting.

That's one way of looking at it. He had a bad week. Another way is that he was exposed by stiffer competition. That's why the scouts get paid the measly bucks, to make difficult decisions.

Are we going to pretend that the u-18 is better competition than his play in Liiga or the WJC? He was excellent all year and had a rough tournament with a Finnish team that got completely dominated.

 

[Habs Icing]

Are we going to pretend that the u-18 is better competition than his play in Liiga or the WJC? He was excellent all year and had a rough tournament with a Finnish team that got completely dominated.

That's not what I said. I presented two ways of looking at what has happened. I didn't state which one I thought was the case. I don't consider myself a scout.

 

[Janne Niinimaa]

That's not what I said. I presented two ways of looking at what has happened. I didn't state which one I thought was the case. I don't consider myself a scout.

I'm saying that's not really a way of looking at it. He performed better all year against better competition.

 

[Habs Icing]

I'm saying that's not really a way of looking at it. He performed better all year against better competition.

Older competition. Not necessarily better.

 

[Playmaker09]

Older competition. Not necessarily better.

You can’t actually be serious?

 

[phillytennis]

I'm glad you brought that up. In this tourny he has not lived up to the hype.

After this U18 tournament, Heinola presents more questions than answers.
I think that there are better choices at 15.

 

[Andrei79]

Older competition. Not necessarily better.

Significantly better competition.

 

[Mrb1p]

That's one way of looking at it. He had a bad week. Another way is that he was exposed by stiffer competition. Who knows the truth? That's why the scouts get paid the measly bucks, to make difficult decisions.

Stiffer competition??? He was literally the best player on the ice in the liiga playoffs Jesus christ.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

If Podkolzin falls to 15, you pick him and you run out of the building.

Anybody remember how Tarasenko was ranked prior to his draft? Was he ever considered top 3-5 but actually fell to 16.

I know KHL threat was peaking back then..

Or MB/TT don’t assume they are smarter than all those other GMs/scouts that are passing

Very underwhelming tourney against his peers so far while a bunch of others have stepped up could push him out

I’d rather take someone rising than someone dropping like a rock

 

[jaffy27]

Here we go.....

https://www.tsn.ca/bowen-caufield-on-the-rise-in-tsn-hockey-s-mock-draft-2-0-1.1296083

 

[Mrb1p]

Here we go.....

https://www.tsn.ca/bowen-caufield-on-the-rise-in-tsn-hockey-s-mock-draft-2-0-1.1296083

Jeez this mock is terrible

 

[phillytennis]

Stiffer competition??? He was literally the best player on the ice in the liiga playoffs Jesus christ.

Mrb1p....making excuses for Heinola's
average play.... he's another Olli Matta and Joelivi...just accept it.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Here we go.....

https://www.tsn.ca/bowen-caufield-on-the-rise-in-tsn-hockey-s-mock-draft-2-0-1.1296083

Lmao, Lavoie to the habs. I don't even hate the pick but just...why always us?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Mocking the Habs the Q player is still my biggest pet peeve.

 

[Mrb1p]

Mrb1p....making excuses for Heinola's
average play.... he's another Olli Matta and Joelivi...just accept it.

If Juolevi and Maata could QB a PP and pass like Markov, maybe.

 

[Janne Niinimaa]

Mrb1p....making excuses for Heinola's
average play.... he's another Olli Matta and Joelivi...just accept it.

Can you back up any of your claims with anything other than him having a subpar tournament?

 

[Mrb1p]

Lmao, Lavoie to the habs. I don't even hate the pick but just...why always us?

Why didnt he mock Turcotte to Chicago? York to Anaheim?

Its like the Habs is the only team that looks for homegrown superstars.

And this team has drafted 5 QC players in the top 100 since 03.

 

[phillytennis]

Or MB/TT don’t assume they are smarter than all those other GMs/scouts that are passing

Very underwhelming tourney against his peers so far while a bunch of others have stepped up could push him out

I’d rather take someone rising than someone dropping like a rock

Agreed... remember Sebastian Colberg....ranked 11th....he fell like a rock...we picked him as a early second rounder....big mistake...he nevera amounted to anything.

 

[phillytennis]

If Juolevi and Maata could QB a PP and pass like Markov, maybe.

I am certain Pittsburgh and Vancouver expected more from both.

 

[G0bias]

If we trade for a late 1st, we'll be mocked Suzuki too. Because

 

[Mrb1p]

Agreed... remember Sebastian Colberg....ranked 11th....he fell like a rock...we picked him as a early second rounder....big mistake...he nevera amounted to anything.

Do you know why Collberg was ranked so high?

Drumroll

He was good at an international tournament.

 

[phillytennis]

Do you know why Collberg was ranked so high?

Drumroll

He was good at an international tournament.

Colberg....had a decent shot....but was strictly a perimeter player....he never liked physical contact....

 

[Saxon]

Now people wouldn't take POD at fifteen because of one tournament...... wtf is happening right now