2019 Entry Draft Thread (HF Draft Discord server, post #652)

[Vachon23]

Someone here have seen play Jackson Lacombe ? I hear alote of good things about him

 

[Yoshidas Island]

Lavoie says his natural position is at RW. Says he's working on being more explosive and that Ryan Getzlaf is the player he's trying to emulate

 

[McGees]

I was the GM for the Canadiens for the Oilers forum 7 round mock draft. Here is who I ended up picking for you guys.

1-15 Arthur Kaliyev - RW - Hamilton - 6'2 - 194, shoots left
2-46 Mikko Kokkonen - D - Jukurit - 5'11" - 200, shoots left
2-50 Antti Tuomisto - D - Assat - 6'4" - 193, shoots right
3-77 Michal Teply - LW - Czech Republic -6'3" - 187, shoots right
4-108 Danill Gutik - LW - Yaroslavl - 6'3" - 179, shoots right
5-131 Lukas Parik - G - Liberec jr - 6'4" - 185, shoots left
5-136 Juuso Parssinen - C - Tps Juniors - 6'2" - 203, shoots left
5-138 Ryder Donovan - C - Duluth East - 6'3" - 184, shoots right
6-170 Ilya Mironov - D - Yaroslavl - 6'3" - 201, shoots left
7-206 Mark Kastelic - C - Calgary - 6'4" - 213, shoots right

I had a number of guidelines or things I wanted to accomplish in the draft. Having 10 picks helped in this regard.

- I wanted a reasonable balance of prospect positions. I think if you stick with this year in and year out you have a better chance of an evenly built team instead of having an overload of prospects in one position (see the oilers). I ended up with 3 defenseman, 3 wingers, 3 centers and 1 goalie. (I think a team should take a goalie in almost every draft due to the nature of the position.)

- I wanted size. You can't teach size. Obviously if you have a super talented player who is not big you still draft that player however when I was making my prospect lists as my pick was approaching size was a factor if prospects were close. The only player under 6'2" that I drafted was Mikko Kokkonen and he is 5'11" and a solid 200 pounds.

- Shooting hand. I hoped to have a reasonable distribution of shooting sides. Right hand shots are often mentioned regarding d-men but imo it is a factor for forwards as well. I ended up with 5 right shots and 4 left shots for position players.

-My draft looks rather Euro centric but that was not by particular design, it just happened that in most cases the player I favoured when my pick rolled around was euro.

Kaliyev no please

 

[Fazkovsky]

Lassi Thomson anyone? Too bad he is RH

 

[McGees]

I love how teams put out candid videos of the process and this is the garbage the Habs put out. Why even bother.

Better than nothing but ya, the Canucks do the best ones.

 

[Mrb1p]

If Dorofeyev is there at 46, just select him with a smile.

If hes there at 30 you better work the phone to move the f*** up. Thats another Aho/Kuxnetsov situation.

Better than nothing but ya, the Canucks do the best ones.

Im partial to the hawks, look two pages back I posted a nice video.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Better than nothing but ya, the Canucks do the best ones.

Meh, they are all poo. It isn't like the Canucks are telling you who they are talking about, they would be fools to do so but it is all lip stick on a pig for me.

 

[le_sean]

Lavoie says his natural position is at RW. Says he's working on being more explosive and that Ryan Getzlaf is the player he's trying to emulate

I try to emulate Getzlaf too but I suck.

 

[Beerfish]

Kaliyev no please

He has his flaws for sure but there are not many natural scorers like him mid 1st round. It's for sure a boom/bust pick.

 

[Mrb1p]

I try to emulate Getzlaf too but I suck.

Imagine trying to emulate one of the most physically imposing players of the modern era and you end up playing like Pacioretty.

Thats like trying aquarel but you end up drawing with crayolas

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I try to emulate Getzlaf too but I suck.

I was the GM for the Canadiens for the Oilers forum 7 round mock draft. Here is who I ended up picking for you guys.

1-15 Arthur Kaliyev - RW - Hamilton - 6'2 - 194, shoots left
2-46 Mikko Kokkonen - D - Jukurit - 5'11" - 200, shoots left
2-50 Antti Tuomisto - D - Assat - 6'4" - 193, shoots right
3-77 Michal Teply - LW - Czech Republic -6'3" - 187, shoots right
4-108 Danill Gutik - LW - Yaroslavl - 6'3" - 179, shoots right
5-131 Lukas Parik - G - Liberec jr - 6'4" - 185, shoots left
5-136 Juuso Parssinen - C - Tps Juniors - 6'2" - 203, shoots left
5-138 Ryder Donovan - C - Duluth East - 6'3" - 184, shoots right
6-170 Ilya Mironov - D - Yaroslavl - 6'3" - 201, shoots left
7-206 Mark Kastelic - C - Calgary - 6'4" - 213, shoots right

I had a number of guidelines or things I wanted to accomplish in the draft. Having 10 picks helped in this regard.

- I wanted a reasonable balance of prospect positions. I think if you stick with this year in and year out you have a better chance of an evenly built team instead of having an overload of prospects in one position (see the oilers). I ended up with 3 defenseman, 3 wingers, 3 centers and 1 goalie. (I think a team should take a goalie in almost every draft due to the nature of the position.)

- I wanted size. You can't teach size. Obviously if you have a super talented player who is not big you still draft that player however when I was making my prospect lists as my pick was approaching size was a factor if prospects were close. The only player under 6'2" that I drafted was Mikko Kokkonen and he is 5'11" and a solid 200 pounds.

- Shooting hand. I hoped to have a reasonable distribution of shooting sides. Right hand shots are often mentioned regarding d-men but imo it is a factor for forwards as well. I ended up with 5 right shots and 4 left shots for position players.

-My draft looks rather Euro centric but that was not by particular design, it just happened that in most cases the player I favoured when my pick rolled around was euro.

Ouch!

I see what you did......you set the bar low so everybody will be happy on Friday when Timmins easily trumps this group.

 

[Yoshidas Island]

MA Godin has Kolyachonok as one of his 6 targets for the Canadiens in the 2nd round.

 

[Mrb1p]

Imagine emulating Alexander the Great but you end up as Von Moltke

 

[Whitesnake]

Inside from somebody in the Armada surroundings....do not touch Bolduc. Kid has ALL the tools. But he just doesn't care that much. If a team is able to make him care...then fine. Do we really know somebody who has that ability? To make some people go from not caring to totally caring? If Bouchard is a guy like that...fine pick him. But first instinct is to not touch him....

 

[Mrb1p]

Inside from somebody in the Armada surroundings....do not touch Bolduc. Kid has ALL the tools. But he just doesn't care that much. If a team is able to make him care...then fine. Do we really know somebody who has that ability? To make some people go from not caring to totally caring? If Bouchard is a guy like that...fine pick him. But first instinct is to not touch him....

Bouchard is probably aware of this already

 

[Fazkovsky]

Who are the interesting overagers? Matej blumel? Justin bergeron? Ronald Attard? Mark Kastelic? Jonathan Yantsis?

 

[Mrb1p]

Who are the interesting overagers? Matej blumel? Justin bergeron? Ronald Attard? Mark Kastelic? Jonathan Yantsis?

Fagemo, Struthers and Bergeron the rest arent worthy

 

[Runner77]

McCagg's 690 interview from this morning now available on replay: https://www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-690/mccagg-lots-of-options-for-bergevin-at-the-nhl-draft-1.1325138

 

[philipsson]

Yeah, miles ahead. I've heard that Morin just isn't that smart even outside of hockey, but I can't attest for myself as I haven't spoken to him personally.

In Rimouski, when they lost, he threw his broken hockey stick like a javelin. Went through the net and hit someone in the stands. Pretty fair to assume he is not the most sharpened pencil in the box (pas l'crayon l'plus aiguisé d'la boite).

Rimouski defender Morin will face QMJHL discipline for throwing stick

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

He has his flaws for sure but there are not many natural scorers like him mid 1st round. It's for sure a boom/bust pick.

I agree with this take. If it turns out that there is relatively little disparity between defensemen we can get in the first round and those we might expect to fall to us in the second, like Kolyachonok or Lacombe, and I suspect more of a gradient from 1 to 2 among forwards, the Habs need to consider top talents like Kaliyev very carefully. Possibly also Krebs, if his Achilles partial tear turns out to be fairly treatable (bringing to bear the best Achilles orthopedic specialists), Newhook if he falls too, or even Tomasino.

It would be pretty cheeky to get both a Kaliyev/Krebs at 15 and a Dorofeyev at 50, in addition to 2-3 strong-skating poised Ds at 46, 77 and in the fifth round.

 

[sheed36]

McCagg's 690 interview from this morning now available on replay: https://www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-690/mccagg-lots-of-options-for-bergevin-at-the-nhl-draft-1.1325138

I listened to the interview this morning. It was a pretty good listen. You could tell that Grant is very high on Lassi Thomson. I also agree with him on drafting for need isn't the bet idea since it could take at least 3 years for these players to make the Habs and the roster could be completely different by then. I'd rather the Habs take the highest rated player left on their draft list when they're up at 15 and not draft with need in mind. I wouldn't be crazy about drafting Knight @ 15 but if he's the highest player on their list when they're up then do it and live with it but I'd much prefer a skater @ 15.

To fix their current need of a LHD MB will have to trade for one or sign a UFA LHD since who ever they draft won't fix that need next year. I have this feeling though that pick #15 might be on the table for a youngish LHD like Ghost.

 

[Vachon23]

Inside from somebody in the Armada surroundings....do not touch Bolduc. Kid has ALL the tools. But he just doesn't care that much. If a team is able to make him care...then fine. Do we really know somebody who has that ability? To make some people go from not caring to totally caring? If Bouchard is a guy like that...fine pick him. But first instinct is to not touch him....

A part of the problem is that he love Baseball and he is a really good player.

 

[le_sean]

A part of the problem is that he love Baseball and he is a really good player.

Understandable, there’s way more money in baseball. People balking at Hayes’ contract, well $7m is what an okay reliever makes.

 

[Vachon23]

Understandable, there’s way more money in baseball. People balking at Hayes’ contract, well $7m is what an okay reliever makes.

I don’t think he as a futur in baseball. He’s good but not that good

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Imagine emulating Alexander the Great but you end up as Von Moltke

Dude, you try and make the Schlieffen plan work with crazy Kaiser Wilhelm breathing on your neck the whole time! That thing was doomed to fail from the get go, he did the best he could.