2019 Entry Draft Thread (HF Draft Discord server, post #652)

[Estimated_Prophet]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Timmins take a shot at Struble at some point in the 3rd or 4th round if he is still there. We know how much he loves his gym rats and Struble is the best athlete in the draft as well as one of the youngest players in the draft.

I don't know that Struble has the smarts that you would want but he destroyed the combine and is a left D to boot.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Thought you valued high hockey IQ and tools?

I do but I dont value players like Kaliyev who are f***ing invisible and shy away from doing the things you need to do to be successful.

He's a trap prospect because he just simply is invisible on the ice. He won't fight through hard checking, hell he won't even go into traffic.

He's really just the worst version of Pacioretty that could ever exist.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I do but I dont value players like Kaliyev who are ****ing invisible and shy away from doing the things you need to do to be successful.

He's a trap prospect because he just simply is invisible on the ice. He won't fight through hard checking, hell he won't even go into traffic.

He's really just the worst version of Pacioretty that could ever exist.

True but we do need a sniper and if our centers turn into who we think they can, we can tolerate 1 or 2 wingers who are soft but can break open a game with their shot. Problem when we had Patch is our centers could not carry the load of what is required for the position

 

[WeThreeKings]

True but we do need a sniper and if our centers turn into who we think they can, we can tolerate 1 or 2 wingers who are soft but can break open a game with their shot. Problem when we had Patch is our centers could not carry the load of what is required for the position

We need goal scorers but we need goal scorers who can actually show up. This isn't the guy. He's an absolute liability. He's a ghost. His effort level is garbage. He doesn't want to be hit. He doesn't want to go into traffic and battle.

 

[Habs Halifax]

We need goal scorers but we need goal scorers who can actually show up. This isn't the guy. He's an absolute liability. He's a ghost. His effort level is garbage. He doesn't want to be hit. He doesn't want to go into traffic and battle.

Kaliyev is not high on my list and I do agree with your strategy. But somehow, someway, we have to add goal scoring threats

 

[WeThreeKings]

Kaliyev is not high on my list and I do agree with your strategy. But somehow, someway, we have to add goal scoring threats

Trade up for Caufield or Boldy. Or select Teply in the second round, maybe Afanasayev.

You can find guys with great scoring tool kits and problem areas at other spots in the draft. Not at 15.

 

[habsfan891]

Trade up for Caufield or Boldy. Or select Teply in the second round, maybe Afanasayev.

You can find guys with great scoring tool kits and problem areas at other spots in the draft. Not at 15.

Boldy i absolutely agree with my problem with Caufield is that we already have far too many small players for him to be successful here.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Boldy i absolutely agree with my problem with Caufield is that we already have far too many small players for him to be successful here.

Team will change

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Boldy i absolutely agree with my problem with Caufield is that we already have far too many small players for him to be successful here.

yeah that's not the greatest reason to not draft Caufield. Shaw and Byron are guys who can be moved.

 

[habsfan891]

yeah that's not the greatest reason to not draft Caufield. Shaw and Byron are guys who can be moved.

I'm not saying don't draft him if he's there at 15 but i just can't agree with spending extra assets to move up for him.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Team will change

True but Mete, Suzuki, Lehkonen, Drouin, Domi are likely on our roster by the time Caufield is NHL ready. My wildest guess at the future....

Drouin / Domi / Gallagher
Caufield / Kotkaniemi / Suzuki
Lehkonen / Poehling / Ylonen or Ikonen
Teasdale / Olofsson / Armia

Romanov / Brook
Mete / Juulsen
Harris / Fleury

Are we tough enough to go on deep playoff runs?

 

[WeThreeKings]

True but Mete, Suzuki, Lehkonen, Drouin, Domi are likely on our roster by the time Caufield is NHL ready. My wildest guess at the future....

Drouin / Domi / Gallagher
Caufield / Kotkaniemi / Suzuki
Lehkonen / Poehling / Ylonen or Ikonen
Teasdale / Olofsson / Armia

Romanov / Brook
Mete / Juulsen
Harris / Fleury

Are we tough enough to go on deep playoff runs?

Ask the super tough Pittsburgh Penguins.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Ask the super tough Pittsburgh Penguins.

I'm saying I'm against drafting Caufield. Just saying we will still have a few smaller or softer type players than I would prefer. And the Pens have Crosby and Malkin. Not really fair to compare to how they won cups.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I think Caulfield is gone, so it's a bit of moot point. I think the guys who could slide to 15 are Newhook, Podkolzin, Broberg, or maybe Cozens (if teams view him as more of a winger than a top 6 C).

 

[Playmaker09]

True but we do need a sniper and if our centers turn into who we think they can, we can tolerate 1 or 2 wingers who are soft but can break open a game with their shot. Problem when we had Patch is our centers could not carry the load of what is required for the position

Which is why Max, DD and Cole should've all been moved in 2012.

Scoring wingers are by far the easiest piece to add in building a contender. And often the last piece. You don't build through them, barring a few truly exceptional players.

Just in the past decade you have: Hossa, Kovalchuk, Gaborik, Kessel, Horton, Nash, Neal, Ryan, Oshie, St. Louis, Lucic, Hoffman, Skinner, E. Kane, Eberle, Pacioretty, Stone, Parise (UFA), Cammalleri (UFA), JVR (UFA), Radulov (UFA), Panarin (UFA). All traded for with picks/prospects or UFA. And probably more that I forgot.

When we're one player away, someone will be on the market. They always are.

But we're not one player away. So focus on building the rest of the roster.

 

[jiboy]

I have not read much negative on Brink , what is the knock on him to not be considered a top 10 prospect?

 

[WeThreeKings]

I have not read much negative on Brink , what is the knock on him to not be considered a top 10 prospect?

He's very small and an awkward skater at that size.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I think Caulfield is gone, so it's a bit of moot point. I think the guys who could slide to 15 are Newhook, Podkolzin, Broberg, or maybe Cozens (if teams view him as more of a winger than a top 6 C).

I think you are right about Caufield.

Guys that might slip to 15: Newhook, Podkolzin, Broberg. I doubt Cozens slips

Guys that are likely still on the board at 15th: Dorofeyev, Heinola, Lavoie and several others

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I think you are right about Caufield.

Guys that might slip to 15: Newhook, Podkolzin, Broberg. I doubt Cozens slips

Guys that are likely still on the board at 15th: Dorofeyev, Heinola, Lavoie and several others

I agree, though there will be hundreds still on the board lol

Pod could slip due to the russian factor and his inconsistant year. Newhook due to his size and coming from the BCHL. Broberg if teams opt for the RDs.

 

[habsfan891]

I agree, though there will be hundreds still on the board lol

Pod could slip due to the russian factor and his inconsistant year. Newhook due to his size and coming from the BCHL. Broberg if teams opt for the RDs.

I hope the temptation of Broberg is removed before our pick i have zero desire to see him try and fail to skate through an entire nhl team multiple times per game.

 

[Mrb1p]

I have not read much negative on Brink , what is the knock on him to not be considered a top 10 prospect?

Small and not an elite skater, it scares people away. Not me though.

 

[Vachon23]

Trade up for Caufield or Boldy. Or select Teply in the second round, maybe Afanasayev.

You can find guys with great scoring tool kits and problem areas at other spots in the draft. Not at 15.

Can you make me a complete Teply scout report ? I didn’t like how he played at the U-18 but I clearly saw some tools

 

[Vachon23]

I would be surprised If Broberg was still there at 15. With the Blues winning the Cup with big defenseman, I think a team will take him before 15 like Vancouver

 

[TT1]

His mock had us picking Morgan Frost at 25 which was wrong...

"GM Peter Chiarelli has done a terrific job" that sentence didn't age well

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I would be surprised If Broberg was still there at 15. With the Blues winning the Cup with big defenseman, I think a team will take him before 15 like Vancouver

I'd go so far as to say there's zero chance he's there.