Prospect Info: 2019 Draft Thread: Part 3?

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[BarDownBobo]

To me the most interesting scenario would be if the following happens:

1. Hughes
2. Kakko
3. Byram
4. Dach
5. Cozens
6. Turcotte
7. Zegras

If any of those 7 are available it's a no brainer to me(although I'd be a little hesitant with Cozens), but after that I think there's 5/6 names you could make an argument for at 8.

 

[Pass the Saitl Sauce]

To me the most interesting scenario would be if the following happens:

1. Hughes
2. Kakko
3. Byram
4. Dach
5. Cozens
6. Turcotte
7. Zegras

If any of those 7 are available it's a no brainer to me(although I'd be a little hesitant with Cozens), but after that I think there's 5/6 names you could make an argument for at 8.

I’d be happy with any of those 7 + krebs or Boldy at 8

 

[PKSpecialist]

To me the most interesting scenario would be if the following happens:

1. Hughes
2. Kakko
3. Byram
4. Dach
5. Cozens
6. Turcotte
7. Zegras

If any of those 7 are available it's a no brainer to me(although I'd be a little hesitant with Cozens), but after that I think there's 5/6 names you could make an argument for at 8.

Run to the podium and take the BPA, Podkolzin, no questions asked.

 

[Stud Muffin]

Run to the podium and take the BPA, Podkolzin, no questions asked.

Yup, there’s no reason not to take him at that point.

 

[780il]

Anyone of Turcotte/Dach/Zegras is there at 8, I take them and run. Period.

 

[MCMIL OIL]

Podkolzin at 8 would be great. A stable year in one spot and higher competition well benefit him greatly. Podkolzin is the kind of prospect you have patience with. With Ken Holland at the helm, I feel alot safer then with previous management taking a chance on him. Have a plan and stick to it. Podkolzin could be one of the best player in the draft. Having said that any of those 7 are ahead of him and I'm talking them.

 

[oil Leaks]

If the draft was to unfold as above. With Holland as GM, I feel a lot more comfortable picking Podkolzin.

 

[Joey Moss]

I feel more comfortable about how Holland would handle European prospects in comparison to how we have handled them in the past but I'm still not convinced Podkolzin would be the right pick for us. Teams who have the most success with Russian players usually have a handful of them. Detroit in the 90's/early 2000's and lately Washington, Tampa and NY Rangers. I think there's something to be said about picking the right player for our core, not just the outright BPA.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I feel more comfortable about how Holland would handle European prospects in comparison to how we have handled them in the past but I'm still not convinced Podkolzin would be the right pick for us. Teams who have the most success with Russian players usually have a handful of them. Detroit in the 90's/early 2000's and lately Washington, Tampa and NY Rangers. I think there's something to be said about picking the right player for our core, not just the outright BPA.

I mean Maksimov and Samorukov are probably 2 of our more important prospects right now, not like he would be alone.

 

[Llamamoto]

I mean Maksimov and Samorukov are probably 2 of our more important prospects right now, not like he would be alone.

He wouldn't be alone, but I don't think Pod is the best player available. His stats, the eye test, all do not support a top-10 pick.

 

[CycloneSweep]

He wouldn't be alone, but I don't think Pod is the best player available. His stats, the eye test, all do not support a top-10 pick.

I mean the eye test of like...every scouting agency supports a top 10 pick.

 

[Llamamoto]

I mean the eye test of like...every scouting agency supports a top 10 pick.

Not anymore. He's ranked quite a bit lower now after the u18s.

And scouts have gotten things wrong before.
I have Dach, Turcotte, Zegras, Krebs, Boldy, Caufield, and Newhook all ahead of him.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Not anymore. He's ranked quite a bit lower now after the u18s.

And scouts have gotten things wrong before.
I have Dach, Turcotte, Zegras, Krebs, Boldy, Caufield, and Newhook all ahead of him.

Got any links? The lowest I have seen him from a scouting agency is 5

 

[Llamamoto]

Got any links? The lowest I have seen him from a scouting agency is 5

2019 NHL Draft Rankings

This page has a bunch of writer's rankings. Podkolzin is ranked 12th, 4th, 7th, 6th, 17th, 4th in May.

 

[CycloneSweep]

2019 NHL Draft Rankings

This page has a bunch of writer's rankings. Podkolzin is ranked 12th, 4th, 7th, 6th, 17th, 4th in May.

That's still an average ranking of 8
The athletic guys really don't seem to like him.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Watching some Newhook videos cause y'all like him so much. I definitely see the skill but I think he has a very major hurdles to overcome.

1. He will not find the time and space he does in the NHL.
2. Playing in shit leagues forever he hasn't really had to play thru adversity, that will be something huge for him to learn.
3. His u18 performance was good but most of it was against crap teams, which is fine. He clearly does well when he is clearly more skilled than the opponent but when the skill level is close his game isn't as strong.
4. He reminds me of a Matt Barzal but not even in the same world of ability.

Edit: Based on the link Llama posted too, only one scouting group had Newhook top 10 and it's a group that has Pelletier, Broberg and Kaliyev all in the top of ahead of him too...which is....interesting.

 

[Llamamoto]

Watching some Newhook videos cause y'all like him so much. I definitely see the skill but I think he has a very major hurdles to overcome.

1. He will not find the time and space he does in the NHL.
2. Playing in **** leagues forever he hasn't really had to play thru adversity, that will be something huge for him to learn.
3. His u18 performance was good but most of it was against crap teams, which is fine. He clearly does well when he is clearly more skilled than the opponent but when the skill level is close his game isn't as strong.
4. He reminds me of a Matt Barzal but not even in the same world of ability.

Edit: Based on the link Llama posted too, only one scouting group had Newhook top 10 and it's a group that has Pelletier, Broberg and Kaliyev all in the top of ahead of him too...which is....interesting.

Here is 'llama's' top-11 rankings:

Kakko
Hughes
Dach
Byram
Turcotte
Zegras
Krebs
Boldy
Caufield
Newhook
Cozens

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

My tiers for the Oilers:

________________________
Not Happening
Kakko, Hughes, Byram
________________________
Stoked
Dach, Turcotte, Zegras
________________________
Happy
Krebs, Boldy, Caufield
________________________
Indifferent
Newhook
________________________
Concerned
Cozens, Podkolzin
________________________

 

[Llamamoto]

Curious as to what people think about Boldy.

 

[MessierII]

This is my top 5

Hughes
Kakko
Byram
Turcotte
Caufeild

Those players to me have the highest potential in the draft. Hughes and Kakko are sure shot stars. Byram and Turcotte I see as potential stars but likely further away than the other two. Caufeild is riskier but still has enough goal scoring potential I think he gets picked 5th.

Those guys I think are the least likely to be available at 8. After that there’s another tier with

Zegras
Podkolzin
Cozens
Dach
Boldy

One these guys is likely our guy. I’d say Zegras and Pod of this tier are the least likely to be there so I think we have our pick between Cozens, Dach and Boldy. Personally I’d probably go with Cozens in this scenario.

Regardless of how this plays out a good forward prospect will be there for us.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Curious as to what people think about Boldy.

I really like him. If none of Dach, Turcotte, or Zegras are there I'd be very happy with the pick.

 

[Oscar Acosta]

Trade the pick.

Be the smart team for once. What are the odds of an 8th overall pick panning out, like 32%, but you can trade that pick for an instant NHL player. And we're not talking some dumbass Griffin Reinhart trade in the first round.

You trade that pick in a package for something to shake loose on Lucic, plus a guy that can play today. Then you have 100% odds on an NHL player. Yeah dude at #8 might be someone someday, but we can't worry about that now. We aren't in that position to worry about 5 years down the road with McDavid and Draisaitl burning prime years.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Trade the pick.

Be the smart team for once. What are the odds of an 8th overall pick panning out, like 32%, but you can trade that pick for an instant NHL player. And we're not talking some dumbass Griffin Reinhart trade in the first round.

You trade that pick in a package for something to shake loose on Lucic, plus a guy that can play today. Then you have 100% odds on an NHL player. Yeah dude at #8 might be someone someday, but we can't worry about that now. We aren't in that position to worry about 5 years down the road with McDavid and Draisaitl burning prime years.

Actually when you have guys like McDavid and Draisaitl you need guys that are ready 3-5 years down the road on ELCs to remain competitive. Hopefully this is our last high pick. Unless we are getting a very good player for it, you shouldn't trade it. Especially just to get rid of Lucic

 

[Canovin]

I have a feeling Dach becomes an Oilers