koyvoo
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Ill post what I posted in the Vasi Vezina thread
There are a lot of crazy goalie stories this year that make it really tough to make out a clear frontrunner. The safe bets are probably on Vasi and Bishop, who are playing well on their own behind elite defensive play, but there are a lot of other novel contenders as well.
Elvis is putting up one of the most absurd statlines I've seen in years coming into the league, Jarry is taking over in Pitt, Samsonov and Shets are stepping in and dominating. It honestly is gonna come down to who has the best last stretch of the year imo. If Vasi keeps playing like he has since the new year it's probably his, but Markstrom honestly deserves Hart consideration, let alone Vezina consideration, if he drags the defensively horrendous Canucks into a divisional title.
No clear frontrunner yet imo, really depends on who has the best stretch over these last 20 games to add to their resume. My top 5 atm probably looks like
Vasi
Bishop
Markstrom
Jarry
Merzlikins (?)
It's just because he missed so many games with injury. If he comes back tomorrow and played every game for the rest of the season he'd still only reach 47 GP.No mentions of Kuemper? 2.17 GAA .929%. Take a look at Arizonas record before and after his injury.
Maybe he'd have a case if their backup didn't have more games played than him.No mentions of Kuemper? 2.17 GAA .929%. Take a look at Arizonas record before and after his injury.
Of the ~16 goalies that have played 35 or more games at this point of the season, the save percentages go Bishop (.924), Vasi (.921) and Helley (.919). Bishop is lowest in GP of that group (I think 7 or 8 fewer than Vasi, who has 3 fewer than Helley).
How the GMs come down on this? No clue. I'd bet based on past indicators those three are the top 3 though (assuming nothing significant changes as in injury/completely fall off a cliff).
He might - but 50 games is pretty low when you're probably going to have a couple of guys close to 60.Rask has played 33 games I think he would be considered. He'll likely be just around 50 to end the season and he's got the best stats in the league.
He might - but 50 games is pretty low when you're probably going to have a couple of guys close to 60.
Who knows though - this **** is voodoo. He's clearly been one of the best goalies this season. I'd like it if Bish won though - the dude has probably been robbed of at least one if not two Vezinas.
Really can't argue this.1. Vas
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Don't disagree with you at all - I'd much prefer capping Vasi's workload at 55 and having ~30 from McBackup to 60 and 20. Some teams it's not an option (for instance - Helleybuck pretty much *has* to start just to get to the playoffs). Some of it is coaching and players - the #1 has to buy in to a platoon workload I think for it to work. Cassidy is a great coach and I think he can get guys to buy in to stuff like that.I think overall goalies arent playing as many games. Teams are realizing how important having a good backup is to handle 35 or so games. I think teams are realizing if you ride your goalie into the ground during the regular season they're less likely to have a strong playoff run. It's not surprising that Rask's insane playoff runs were last year when he only played like 50 games and in 2013 during the shortened season.
Don't disagree with you at all - I'd much prefer capping Vasi's workload at 55 and having ~30 from McBackup to 60 and 20. Some teams it's not an option (for instance - Helleybuck pretty much *has* to start just to get to the playoffs). Some of it is coaching and players - the #1 has to buy in to a platoon workload I think for it to work. Cassidy is a great coach and I think he can get guys to buy in to stuff like that.
But at the end of the day, the Vezina is a regular season award, so while something might be better *for the team*, it is generally more impressive to sustain high performance over more games than it is to do it over fewer. It's the same if you rest skaters - can't win the Art Ross even if your PPG is higher if you only play 74 games, even if it is better for the team in the long run.