GDT: 2019-20 Trade Deadline

[Oneiro]

Don't want Hanifin. Would much rather have picks and prospects than yet another inconsistent NHL defenseman.

 

[R8Devs]

Damn both Dreger and Lavoie confirming things that didn't happen this past week

 

[HischierSeDgewOrk]

All these idiots are obsessed with being the first to report a deal...love it when it backfires.

 

[Goptor]

Why do they even admit that their source is one of his teammates in Moscow? How would any of them reliably know whats going on with the NY Islanders or Chicago Blackhawks.

 

[OmNomNom]

well... remember when the coleman trade was denied by the devils comm team?

 

[R8Devs]

Don't want Hanifin. Would much rather have picks and prospects than yet another inconsistent NHL defenseman.

I guess it really depends on how you view a guy like Vaakanainen vs Hanifin. They're not super far apart in age (Jan 1997 vs Jan 1999). I'd understand if the Devils went down a path thinking that may be able to get Hanifin to bounce back. How many young defenseman are not inconsistent anyway -- no one that you could really acquire in a trade.

 

[Triumph]

Don't want Hanifin. Would much rather have picks and prospects than yet another inconsistent NHL defenseman.

They have enough picks and prospects. Now if you're in favor of keeping Palmieri over getting a player like Hanifin, fine, but it's either take a player like Hanifin now or move a 1st round pick for a guy like him at the draft - there is just no universe where the Devils should draft 4 times in this year's 1st round (or even 3). Now I don't really like Hanifin, so I wouldn't really be in favor of that trade, but they need players at some point.

 

[Emperoreddy]

well... remember when the coleman trade was denied by the devils comm team?

Well he wasn’t traded to Colorado as it was reported.

 

[Call Me Al]

well... remember when the coleman trade was denied by the devils comm team?

he wasn't traded to colorado as reported though

 

[EnglishDevil]

I’d absolutely take Hanifin as part of the return for Palmieri. Much prefer him to anything Boston can offer.

 

[OmNomNom]

Well he wasn’t traded to Colorado as it was reported.

he wasn't traded to colorado as reported though

hmm very true... but still! where there's smoke... you never know

 

[Spoiled Bratt]

They have enough picks and prospects. Now if you're in favor of keeping Palmieri over getting a player like Hanifin, fine, but it's either take a player like Hanifin now or move a 1st round pick for a guy like him at the draft - there is just no universe where the Devils should draft 4 times in this year's 1st round (or even 3). Now I don't really like Hanifin, so I wouldn't really be in favor of that trade, but they need players at some point.

Why is that? If the players you’re targeting is going to cost a 1st round pick and then some, you draft the kid that’s up on your list and work from there.

There’s nothing wrong with drafting 3X in the 1st round. The Ducks did it and they landed Getzlaf and Perry, two cornerstones of their franchise for close to a decade. The same can be said about Philly with Carter and Richards, which turned out to be franchise changing for them as well.

Granted, Boston had 3 picks that were back-to back-to back and they didn’t strike gold but I honestly feel like Castron and his crew can do some real damage with all the ammo that is at their disposal.

 

[JrFischer54]

so was the flames package hanafin for hall straight up? but devils chose the pick and bahl?

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

I’d absolutely take Hanifin as part of the return for Palmieri. Much prefer him to anything Boston can offer.

This^. Hanifin immediately becomes our 1LD that is signed for another 4 seasons. How could we knock that back.

Is he a true first pairing D? Possibly not yet. But on this team he would be and could grow into that role.

Hanifin-Subban
Smith-Severson
Butcher-Carrick

 

[Spoiled Bratt]

Don't want Hanifin. Would much rather have picks and prospects than yet another inconsistent NHL defenseman.

I would take Hanifin for Palmieri in a heartbeat. He’s a 23 year old dman with major upside. He’s not a finish product and fits a glaring need and the timeline we’ve been talking about.

I don’t know why anyone wouldn’t be happy with Hanifin coming our way instead of picks and prospects.

 

[Camille the Eel]

Don't want Hanifin. Would much rather have picks and prospects than yet another inconsistent NHL defenseman.

I would take him in a second. He’s just what we are missing. Is he available ? They would never trade him.

 

[Camille the Eel]

Yeah, they're a team that needs to do something as their window is closing.



This speculates that Hanafin was part of the offer for Hall from Calgary, with aligns with the talk of them offering a hockey trade instead of picks/prospects.

Will see if Calgary shifts to offer up futures for help at the deadline.

If we didn’t do that, I’m glad Shero was fired. He should have been. Damn.

probably isn’t true.

 

[Camille the Eel]

I guess it really depends on how you view a guy like Vaakanainen vs Hanifin. They're not super far apart in age (Jan 1997 vs Jan 1999). I'd understand if the Devils went down a path thinking that may be able to get Hanifin to bounce back. How many young defenseman are not inconsistent anyway -- no one that you could really acquire in a trade.

There’s no comparison. Hanafin is a first pairing guy and will be for 10 years. The skating alone completely distinguishes him from Vats. If we were to get him, in my view our D problems are more or less solved and we are repositioned. Players like that just don’t become available.

 

[Edmonton East]

Yeah, they're a team that needs to do something as their window is closing.



This speculates that Hanafin was part of the offer for Hall from Calgary, with aligns with the talk of them offering a hockey trade instead of picks/prospects.

Will see if Calgary shifts to offer up futures for help at the deadline.

Check my post history in late Nov/early December. I said Calgary was my front runner for Hall and that it would involve a roster player as main piece rather than futures.....

At the time, the media wasn't speculating Calgary as a top candidate either. That all happened after the Zona trade.

 

[Edmonton East]

There’s no comparison. Hanafin is a first pairing guy and will be for 10 years. The skating alone completely distinguishes him from Vats. If we were to get him, in my view our D problems are more or less solved and we are repositioned. Players like that just don’t become available.

Ehhhhhhhhh I think his draft status/hype is clouding your judgement a bit. He's a middle pair right now that might become a #2 guy in the future.

 

[NJDevs26]

so was the flames package hanafin for hall straight up? but devils chose the pick and bahl?

We don't know what the package was (or if we were giving up anything else), just apparently that Hanifin was part of it. I'd have to see the whole deal to really jump to a conclusion either way whether Shero should have taken it or not, but I would be worried already two teams have wanted to move on from Hanifin before turning 23.

 

[Edmonton East]

We don't know what the package was (or if we were giving up anything else), just apparently that Hanifin was part of it. I'd have to see the whole deal to really jump to a conclusion either way whether Shero should have taken it or not, but I would be worried already two teams have wanted to move on from Hanifin before turning 23.

It wasn't a clean swap. Devs were sending a LD as well and Calgary was sending non 1st pick(s)/crappy prospect(s). No, I don't know the final offer that was given, but the above was the general foundation I believe. Given Calgary's cap situation, you can probably narrow down the LD.

I am still surprised the Yotes trade was made. I'm only ok with it if Yotes miss the playoffs and don't win the lotto AND Bahl becomes at least a bottom pairing guy.

 

[StevenToddIves]

I feel like Bjork has more offensive upside than Heinen. Maybe those were the two players? I’d still would have wanted a first with Bjork. Maybe Gryzelyk?

We need to stop discussing guys like Bjork and Heinen as potential returns in a Palmieri trade. Neither of those guys would even be a lock to make the Devils team in 2020-21. Is Heinen going to be as good as Joey Anderson or Nick Merkley one year from now? Is Bjork going to be good as Jesper Boqvist one year from now? I'm not so sure. The last thing the Devils need to be focusing on in any trade is future Fs for their bottom 6, the Devils have more than enough prospect depth there.

 

[glenwo2]

so was the flames package hanafin for hall straight up? but devils chose the pick and bahl?

Yeah.

I mean...for all the "inconsistency" that Noah is as an NHL Defenseman, he's Scott Stevens compared to our garbage at "D".

I am very surprised if Noah was the offer and Shero turned him down for Wrecking-Bahl and picks.

I'm guessing Shero preferred the picks part (w/ young player) more than an established player.

IF this report is true, that is.

IF it is, then I am glad Shero got the boot.

 

[StevenToddIves]

I guess it really depends on how you view a guy like Vaakanainen vs Hanifin. They're not super far apart in age (Jan 1997 vs Jan 1999). I'd understand if the Devils went down a path thinking that may be able to get Hanifin to bounce back. How many young defenseman are not inconsistent anyway -- no one that you could really acquire in a trade.

Hanifin is a far superior return to Vaakanainen. Hanifin is already a mid-pairing defender, while Vaakanainen has the upside of one day developing into aa mid-pairing defender. Sure, Hanifin does not look like the future star Carolina thought they were drafting, but he's still a terrific skater; a big body with a big shot.