GDT: 2019-20 Trade Deadline
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Nope. Subban, Severson, Vatanen, Butcher, and Mueller are all easily better. Colton White might be too. Moore is Schneider/Domingue bad.
I can’t see Boston still being interested in Palms now. Their top-six is pretty set now. I’d imagine they would’ve also wanted us to swallow Backes contract, which is not ideal unless the return was significantly greater than the Kase deal.
Vegas played six left-handed defenceman last night. I think they could very much be after Vatanen.
Vegas played six left-handed defenceman last night. I think they could very much be after Vatanen.
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Anaheim should have been able to get more. They hurt the market for teams that were willing to absorb entire contract.
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Anaheim screwed up, even though Kase has injury issues can't believe a late 1st rounder was more useful to them moving forward. The fact that adding Backes didn't even return solid prospect is just bad.
Except in overtime
It's weird that a guy that's such a good skater and has great puck skills is such an amazingly bad defenseman. I'm sure they thought the same thing when they offered him that contract "Yeah, his game has some holes, but look at those tools! He'll figure it out." Nope. He can't even get into lineup in Boston, and they only signed him last year.
Better Call Sal
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There's nothing Boston can now provide that'll make me think of dealing Palms there.
I'd want this year's first and Studnicka at least, and now the first is in Anaheim.
I'd want this year's first and Studnicka at least, and now the first is in Anaheim.
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Don’t think the return is that bad tbh. I think Kase is overrated on here. Dude can’t stay healthy and hasn’t been all that effective this year.
Probably should’ve gotten more but they didn’t get fleeced.
4 or 5 concussions in and an underwhelming producer.
Probably should’ve gotten more but they didn’t get fleeced.
4 or 5 concussions in and an underwhelming producer.
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There's no doubt Kase has injury issues, but he definitely isn't overrated here. Probably the opposite. His scoring rate throughout his career is actually very good for a young player and I think any Anaheim fan will tell you how effective he is at driving play. Couple that with being stuck on an atrocious team, and you'll see his production skyrocket in Boston. He's exactly the type of player the Devils should be looking to acquire if they want to avoid icing an AHL caliber roster next year.
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Oi. If player B is Gryzleck we’d think because a mobile, extremely creative left handed defenseman could fundamentally change our club.
However we have Ty Smith in the pipeline. And what do Fitz and co really think of him?
Do not trade Palms for another forward no matter who. Coyle? Debrusk? Palms is better than either of them.
This is making me sick just thinking about it. We can’t be determined just to unload Palms no matter what the return, just looking for a best deal. If we are . . . Well that’s just depressing. The next 3 days will tell.
However we have Ty Smith in the pipeline. And what do Fitz and co really think of him?
Do not trade Palms for another forward no matter who. Coyle? Debrusk? Palms is better than either of them.
This is making me sick just thinking about it. We can’t be determined just to unload Palms no matter what the return, just looking for a best deal. If we are . . . Well that’s just depressing. The next 3 days will tell.
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If thats the case Player B is someone who has really good value given that its the difference between a 1st and 2nd round pick. We could still get their 1st in 2021 and 2nd in 2020 which would be good plus a player.
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This is my biggest problem and why I think that he would now be out of their price range without the first. I don't know how you make it work with other people in the action and the fact that we don't have to move him. I mean, don't get me wrong, I've been one of the biggest proponents to moving him, but we are not obligated to do it right this very moment. If I don't like the offers this season, given what the Rangers are asking for Kreider as a rental, I'm okay with flipping him as a rental next year for a slightly discounted rate.
Not sure how they make that work under the cap unless Backes was involved.
Unless he was one of Player A or Player B, which doesn't make sense.
Devil X
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My biggest concern with Palmieri is simple.
Do i believe he would re-sign in NJ, yes. Do I want to deal with his next contact? Not sure.
Can we get the same value for him now that we can at the deadline next year... No.
No matter your opinion on Palmieri this is a business, if the Devils dont believe Palms is part of this next core (too old) then you move him because you're going to get the most value out of a deal now then in the summer or at the TDL next season.
Would it suck to see him go? of course. But pure value wise, he's at his height right now and it will only decrease every day after the deadline.
Do i believe he would re-sign in NJ, yes. Do I want to deal with his next contact? Not sure.
Can we get the same value for him now that we can at the deadline next year... No.
No matter your opinion on Palmieri this is a business, if the Devils dont believe Palms is part of this next core (too old) then you move him because you're going to get the most value out of a deal now then in the summer or at the TDL next season.
Would it suck to see him go? of course. But pure value wise, he's at his height right now and it will only decrease every day after the deadline.
Devil X
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If player B is someone like Heinen then it can work I believe. Not saying he alone makes the difference between a 1st and 2nd. But the Devils could retain a little to make it work if it upped the value.
Boston is off my list with the move they made with Anaheim, unless they’re sending us their 2021 1st round pick with a prospect/roster player.
If not, let them play Kase in their top #6.
If not, let them play Kase in their top #6.
I wonder if Columbus would be in on Palmieri after Bjorkstrand going down. They went nuts last year and somehow have a first.
Josh Anderson is also intriguing. I was wondering why I keep hearing his name out in rumors. He is having a poor year, but is someone I think who could make sense for the current makeup of the team. I believe Ovy, Anderson and Coleman were the only players in the league to have 20 goals and 200 hits last year.
Josh Anderson is also intriguing. I was wondering why I keep hearing his name out in rumors. He is having a poor year, but is someone I think who could make sense for the current makeup of the team. I believe Ovy, Anderson and Coleman were the only players in the league to have 20 goals and 200 hits last year.
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Still don't see Palms being moved. The offer would have to be insane. Better value than even the Coleman deal. And given the cap circumstances of contending teams, I find it hard to believe a deal like that would come to fruition. Anyway, if people wanna speculate, they should be doing so valuing Palms with 50% retention.
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