2019-20 Roster Speculation Pt. 2

[The Red Helmet]

People that are complaining about the body type of a 20 year old kid are going just a bit overboard IMO

You mean a 20 year old professional athlete. If you think Middelstadt's conditioning isn't translating to the ice then you are freaking clueless. He couldn't do a pull up at the combine and everyone laughed it off. I'm sorry but it matters. It at the very least shows that he wasn't hitting the gym when he was a teen and didn't care about his conditioning.

It's time for this kid to get serious about his career and that means dropping the fat and putting on some muscle. It is absolutely hilarious that you and others are forgiving Middelstadt for being a fat ass.

 

[Team Cozens]

How are we fitting Hoffman, RNH, donskoi under the cap? Let alone the other 2.. assuming that Hoffman gets 7ish mil, he and RNH take up 13-14 mil of our 19 mil cap space right now...and that’s before our RFAs

Edit:with risto being traded the cap they take would be more like 8-9 mil of the 19. Still leaves 10-11 mil for 5-RFAs and 3 UFAs in your scenario

Well.... we have 19 million space now.

RNH - 6 mill
Hoffman - 5.2 mill
Miller - 3.8 mill
Haula - 2.75
Donskoi- 2.75 = 20 million

Traded out in various ways. Risto, Sheary, Sobotka, Hunwick would be 14 million.
Bogosian at some point as well. Obviously picks and prospects would be involved.

So still close to 12 million still available for left over RFA.

 

[dotcommunism]

I thought Turk had gone through 4 drafts already. But you're the expert, so hey, I defer.

Turkulainen is still draft eligible next year. Looking closer, Innala is an interesting case as it looks like he won't be eligible for next year's draft, and that means he should be a free agent, but it looks like he isn't actually eligible to sign an NHL contract this season.

 

[Chainshot]

Why do people want RNH? He's not what you think he is. I hope Parker starts to obsess about a forward who is actually good soon.

 

[BloFan4Life]

You mean a 20 year old professional athlete. If you think Middelstadt's conditioning isn't translating to the ice then you are freaking clueless. He couldn't do a pull up at the combine and everyone laughed it off. I'm sorry but it matters. It at the very least shows that he wasn't hitting the gym when he was a teen and didn't care about his conditioning.

It's time for this kid to get serious about his career and that means dropping the fat and putting on some muscle. It is absolutely hilarious that you and others are forgiving Middelstadt for being a fat ass.

I think you will be happy to know his golf game is getting ridiculous good with him playing all the time.

 

[sabremike]

You mean a 20 year old professional athlete. If you think Middelstadt's conditioning isn't translating to the ice then you are freaking clueless. He couldn't do a pull up at the combine and everyone laughed it off. I'm sorry but it matters. It at the very least shows that he wasn't hitting the gym when he was a teen and didn't care about his conditioning.

It's time for this kid to get serious about his career and that means dropping the fat and putting on some muscle. It is absolutely hilarious that you and others are forgiving Middelstadt for being a fat ass.

IIRC the pullup thing had more to do with him not having the proper technique than lack of strength.

 

[Ace]

Why do people want RNH? He's not what you think he is. I hope Parker starts to obsess about a forward who is actually good soon.

I think he’s a better option at 2C than throwing Mittelstadt back in over his head or playing Sobotka.

He’s exaxtly what I think he is.

 

[Chainshot]

I think he’s a better option at 2C than throwing Mittelstadt back in over his head or playing Sobotka.

He’s exaxtly what I think he is.

That's the reason to look for any mid-6 center. We should hope for one who is good at a 3C role who can play up to handle the 2C deployment while they wait on Mittelstadt.

IIRC the pullup thing had more to do with him not having the proper technique than lack of strength.

It was. He was doing them within a couple days of having UM's strength guys correct his form.

 

[Royal Thunder]

I think you will be happy to know his golf game is getting ridiculous good with him playing all the time.

Plenty of time in the day for him to golf and still workout. But yeah he seems to be golfing with the boys literally every day lol

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Well.... we have 19 million space now.

RNH - 6 mill
Hoffman - 5.2 mill
Miller - 3.8 mill
Haula - 2.75
Donskoi- 2.75 = 20 million

Traded out in various ways. Risto, Sheary, Sobotka, Hunwick would be 14 million.
Bogosian at some point as well. Obviously picks and prospects would be involved.

So still close to 12 million still available for left over RFA.

Trade Sobotka and Hunwick? To who exactly? You need to include picks

 

[CatsforReinhart]

That's the reason to look for any mid-6 center. We should hope for one who is good at a 3C role who can play up to handle the 2C deployment while they wait on Mittelstadt.



It was. He was doing them within a couple days of having UM's strength guys correct his form.

That still shows he wasn't serious about training


He didn't know how to do a pullup and wants to be a star in the NHL

 

[Team Cozens]

Trade Sobotka and Hunwick? To who exactly? You need to include picks

Yup.
I said “obviously picks and prospects would be involved”

 

[dkollidas]

I wonder if Bonino could be a cheap stop-gap between Mitts and Eichel. He’s not great but I think he’d be better than Berglund and would help to keep Mittelstadt a bit insulated. That and then go after a Winger like Leblanc through a trade?

I’m also very high on Andrew Copp. Think he’ll be a real good 3C, but just don’t know if Winnipeg wants to move him. He might be the cheap depth they want to keep.

But overall I think Bonino is the best cheap fit barring an addition via a Ristolainen Trade.

 

[Der Jaeger]

I wonder if Bonino could be a cheap stop-gap between Mitts and Eichel. He’s not great but I think he’d be better than Berglund and would help to keep Mittelstadt a bit insulated. That and then go after a Winger like Leblanc through a trade?

I’m also very high on Andrew Copp. Think he’ll be a real good 3C, but just don’t know if Winnipeg wants to move him. He might be the cheap depth they want to keep.

But overall I think Bonino is the best cheap fit barring an addition via a Ristolainen Trade.

Bonino's cost went up with the Subban trade. Nashville doesn't have a cap issue anymore.

 

[Fjordy]

Bonino still does not have to cost much, apparently Nashville is very focused on Duchene, they also have Turris with a big contract, they are unlikely to want to keep Bonino with all his strength to play them 4C with such a salary.

 

[joshjull]

Pretty sure it opens today.

June 23: UFA Interview Window Opens

12 a.m.: Interview period begins for upcoming unrestricted free agents
5 p.m.: This is the deadline for teams to tender qualifying offers to restricted free agents.

You are correct sir. It opens today.

 

[Snippit]

What would Colin Miller cost from VGK? They have to trade someone...

Dahlin-Miller
Pilut-Risto
McCabe-Montour

 

[CaptPantalones]

What would Colin Miller cost from VGK? They have to trade someone...

Dahlin-Miller
Pilut-Risto
McCabe-Montour

They need cap space. I wonder if a conditional 2nd/3rd and a buyout option like Hunwick or a cheaper roster guy gets it done

 

[Snippit]

They need cap space. I wonder if a conditional 2nd/3rd and a buyout option like Hunwick or a cheaper roster guy gets it done

If it was only draft picks that's a great trade.

I still explore trading Risto for a forward. Miller is a pretty effective Risto replacement and he's only 2 years older. But if there's not a good market for him then we should keep him, and explore moving Nylander. It is urgent we upgrade the forward group this off-season though.

 

[CaptPantalones]

If it was only draft picks that's a great trade.

I still explore trading Risto for a forward. Miller is a pretty effective Risto replacement and he's only 2 years older. But if there's not a good market for him then we should keep him, and explore moving Nylander. It is urgent we upgrade the forward group this off-season though.

Agreed. I like the idea of trying to trade for Miller on the cheap and either keeping risto and getting forwards through other outlets, or pursuing a vet dmen in UFA