2019-20 Roster Speculation Pt. 2

[Jim Bob]

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That's only if Jets reach a deal with Carolina. Canes aren't trading Pesce, Faulk only has one year remaining and a NTC, so it would probably be for Hamilton or won't happen.

It has to be talk around Hamilton to Winnipeg unless the Jets just want cap space and it is TVR to the Jets...

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[MayDayMayDay]

I would be willing to move back in the first round some if it meant upgrading our top six now.

Someone on the board mentioned a Drouin & 15 OA for 7 OA. I think that's worth considering.

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

Maybe we take Perrault back as a cap dump to offset the term difference?

Perrault only gets 5 teams on his NTC. Buffalo might be on it but I don't know.

 

[Jame]

I would be willing to move back in the first round some if it meant upgrading our top six now.

Someone on the board mentioned a Drouin & 15 OA for 7 OA. I think that's worth considering.

Hell no

 

[OkimLom]

I wouldn't. He's a Murray pick...

But he's Swedish...

 

[Jim Bob]

Teams looking for defense should seek trades, not free agents

I hope Botts is working to upgrade the defense corps and not just focused on 2C and top 6 W.

 

[Chainshot]

Hell no

That epithet isn't strong enough. I'd entertain 31OA and something else for Drouin, but that's about it. The bloom is firmly off that blossom.

 

[HaNotsri]

Seems like a good idea to trade with Winnipeg right now.

If Strålman hits the market he's my ideal target as stop gap RHD. He probably goes back to Rangers but maybe he could be tempted by the golden Pegulabucks?

 

[Chainshot]

Would you offer 7OA for Meier as basis of a deal?

 

[Gabrielor]

I’m still holding out hope that at some point this week, I see Anthony cirelli acquired by buffalo for risto

 

[Jame]

That epithet isn't strong enough. I'd entertain 31OA and something else for Drouin, but that's about it. The bloom is firmly off that blossom.

It still annoys me that Montreal was able to get Domi for Galchenyuk, and Chicago was able to get Strome for some stuff.... and yet people believe that there wasn't a market for ROR because Lebrun could only identify 3 teams... even though there is video of Chayka talking to Botterill about ROR.....

 

[Chainshot]

Seems like a good idea to trade with Winnipeg right now.

If Strålman hits the market he's my ideal target as stop gap RHD. He probably goes back to Rangers but maybe he could be tempted by the golden Pegulabucks?

Strålman broke down a lot last year. He could be akin to Enström from last season in how he finished up. I don't know if he can come in and be a contributing top 4 RHD any longer.

 

[Chainshot]

It still annoys me that Montreal was able to get Domi for Galchenyuk, and Chicago was able to get Strome for some stuff.... and yet people believe that there wasn't a market for ROR because Lebrun could only identify 3 teams... even though there is video of Chayka talking to Botterill about ROR.....

Imagine if it had been Domi instead. Pfffttt....

 

[Fezzy126]

Would you offer 7OA for Meier as basis of a deal?

Absolutely f***ing yes!

Edit: I have dropped all work tasks and began frantically searching twitter for any and all Meier related news. Why are you toying with my emotions chain?

 

[stokes84]

We've seen both, as the acquistion of Scandella and the drafting of Samuelsson show...

Fair rebuttal, but I don’t think Scandella is that awful of a skater. Braun is hot garbage IMO, propped up by a really nice surrounding cast. I hope it’s not an option.

 

[Jame]

Would you offer 7OA for Meier as basis of a deal?

What kind of contract are you going to give him?

1. Timo is f***ing awesome.
2. He's better on the left side... which our top line is already locked in to with Skinner
3. I believe Timo can drive his own line... I also think he and Reinhart would be phenomenal together
4. But, can I afford to pay Timo and Reinhart both in the 8-9 per range?
5. I wish I could

 

[Jame]

Fair rebuttal, but I don’t think Scandella is that awful of a skater. Braun is hot garbage IMO, propped up by a really nice surrounding cast. I hope it’s not an option.

Braun is total garbage now... agreed

 

[Chainshot]

Absolutely ****ing yes!

What kind of contract are you going to give him?

1. Timo is ****ing awesome.
2. He's better on the left side... which our top line is already locked in to with Skinner
3. I believe Timo can drive his own line... I also think he and Reinhart would be phenomenal together
4. But, can I afford to pay Timo and Reinhart both in the 8-9 per range?
5. I wish I could

I'd try to extend him long-term and see if he's willing to sell some UFA years for certain payday to make the second line some sort of Meier-Reinhart-fast, cheap guy on the right. I'd try to see if they could get Meier at William Nylander's number as a basis to his and later Sam's deals.

There would have to be something else in there for the Sharks on the cheap, but I was wondering how they are paying him and Labanc.

 

[HaNotsri]

Strålman broke down a lot last year. He could be akin to Enström from last season in how he finished up. I don't know if he can come in and be a contributing top 4 RHD any longer.

Maybe Bogo will be back when Strålman breaks? And then Strålman can rehab until Bogo breaks.

 

[Jame]

I'd try to extend him long-term and see if he's willing to sell some UFA years for certain payday to make the second line some sort of Meier-Reinhart-fast, cheap guy on the right. I'd try to see if they could get Meier at William Nylander's number as a basis to his and later Sam's deals.

There would have to be something else in there for the Sharks on the cheap, but I was wondering how they are paying him and Labanc.

So if I can get Meier at 6.5 x 6 years (a bit less than Nylander as he had 2 seasons at 60 points.... and I can lock Reinhart in to a long term 8.0 x 6 years (buys more UFA years than Meier)... and I can get to that scenario by trading #7?

That's damn tempting...

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

I’m still holding out hope that at some point this week, I see Anthony cirelli acquired by buffalo for risto

Don't hold your breath.

 

[Chainshot]

Maybe Bogo will be back when Strålman breaks? And then Strålman can rehab until Bogo breaks.

I wish I didn't laugh at this, but I did. It's so true.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

It still annoys me that Montreal was able to get Domi for Galchenyuk, and Chicago was able to get Strome for some stuff.... and yet people believe that there wasn't a market for ROR because Lebrun could only identify 3 teams... even though there is video of Chayka talking to Botterill about ROR.....

The problem might be that JB sees Tage as an equivalent prospect — he may have thought he struck a similar deal as those teams because he has shitty pro scouts and can’t adequately assess talent.

 

[Jame]

Imagine if it had been Domi instead. Pfffttt....

yea... you don't need a secret decoder ring to know that Botts passed on some form of a Domi for ROR deal.

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

The problem might be that JB sees Tage as an equivalent prospect — he may have thought he struck a similar deal as those teams because he has ****ty pro scouts and can’t adequately assess talent.

Targeting Tage screams being awed by size and a big shot while ignoring his lack of 5v5 production at most levels and his terrible analytics.