2018 Roster and Fantasy GM Thread

[JT Milker]

Honestly the forward group is deep.

The massive problem is D, and especially right shot D long term

They need to look at the waiver wire or trade market to add a piece back there

Deep implies good. This is one of the worst forward groups in the league, has 1 ~1st line player.

 

[JuniorNelson]

Murray, the Ducks GM said talks are going but nothing is imminent with Nick Ritchie. I wonder if there is room for trade talks here? Virtanen and Ritchie patrolling the wing would make other teams careful, no?

 

[JuniorNelson]

A) he reportedly wouldn't sign with a Canadian team, possibly would not sign with any team as part of the trade.

B) you can be sure if an extension could be agreed upon the price would have been a hell of a lot higher.

I feel like trade rhetoric is unreliable. I usually discount it. It's the same with rumors. Mostly unreliable, in the end. Still, the reports seem accurate here. Bummer. I am guessing that the Canucks used the opportunity to chat up Karlsson, explaining their limitless cash abilities.

 

[Fire Benning]

Murray, the Ducks GM said talks are going but nothing is imminent with Nick Ritchie. I wonder if there is room for trade talks here? Virtanen and Ritchie patrolling the wing would make other teams careful, no?

Doubt it. I reckon all unsigned RFAs will get deals done with their current teams.

 

[Cogburn]

Murray, the Ducks GM said talks are going but nothing is imminent with Nick Ritchie. I wonder if there is room for trade talks here? Virtanen and Ritchie patrolling the wing would make other teams careful, no?

I've heard much worse ideas. If we could clear some clutter after said trade, I'd be happy to see the two on a line, with someone like Gaudette centering.

 

[Mr Plow]

Murray, the Ducks GM said talks are going but nothing is imminent with Nick Ritchie. I wonder if there is room for trade talks here? Virtanen and Ritchie patrolling the wing would make other teams careful, no?

Baertschi for Ritchie, who says no?

 

[Melvin]

Baertschi for Ritchie, who says no?

The ducks?

 

[Mr Plow]

The ducks?

I thought so, but I reckon it's close. Baertschi is the better offensive contributor right now, producing at a legit top six rate. He's also locked up for three years at a pretty reasonable cap hit.

Ritchie doesn't bring the level of production that Baertschi does, but he is three years younger and plays a much more physical game than Sven. He's also still holding out on signing an extension in Anaheim so there might be tiny but more incentive to move him if negotiations aren't going well.

What do you think Vancouver would need to add to a Baertschi for Ritchie swap in order to make it fair value?

 

[Melvin]

I thought so, but I reckon it's close. Baertschi is the better offensive contributor right now, producing at a legit top six rate. He's also locked up for three years at a pretty reasonable cap hit.

Ritchie doesn't bring the level of production that Baertschi does, but he is three years younger and plays a much more physical game than Sven. He's also still holding out on signing an extension in Anaheim so there might be tiny but more incentive to move him if negotiations aren't going well.

What do you think Vancouver would need to add to a Baertschi for Ritchie swap in order to make it fair value?

I mean, maybe.

Baertschi scores at a better "rate" but he never plays enough games for that to matter. I think the ducks would be better off giving Ritchie whatever he is asking for over taking baertschis contract which will be substantially more expensive.

Surely Ritchie isn't asking for 3.36M? Why not just pay him?

 

[JuniorNelson]

Ducks don't have enough centers. They might be more amenable at the end of camp? Granlund?

 

[BROCK HUGHES]

Deep implies good. This is one of the worst forward groups in the league, has 1 ~1st line player.

Yepp one star in Boeser.Hopefully another in EP.Bo is a great 2nd line center playing a first line role as we dont have anything better then him.Then the rest of the team is made up of 3rd and 4th liners on big time contracts...our defence sucks again this year ..with garbage goaltending..
It looks like another season of doom and gloom..hold onto your hats...

 

[Bettman Returnz]

We are still a few pieces short of completing this rebuild. Could use a bonafide #1 centre, another top2/3 D and maybe top 6 winger.

 

[Intangibos]

1. Trade Baertschi for McCann (underrated by dinosaurs in Florida, great numbers when you factor in his deployment)
2. Play Goldobin/Leipsic/Dahlen as long as possible in the top 9 praying that one of them can make it, especially Goldobin/Leipsic learning to in their own zone
3. Finish 30th because lol top 9 LW
4. Hughes

Idk if McCann can play the wing but I'd like to see
Dahlen (probably) - Horvat - Boeser
Goldobin - Pettersson - McCann
Leipsic - Sutter - Virtanen
Eriksson - Beagle - Roussell
Gaunce

Leipsic doesn't deserve to be on that 3rd line or anywhere in the top 6, but that 3rd line has some speed and both Sutter and Virtanen are fine defensively. Leipsic also seems like a solo player much like Sutter does so f*** it. Eriksson is a fine 2/3 LW, the only issue with him is his inflated contract, but I really don't like the idea of dumping one of Goldobin/Leipsic because I think either one can be a solid 2 LW if they can just learn to play some f***ing defence. Goldobin looks like he tries IMO but doesn't get it, and Leipsic looks downright lazy in his own zone.

I think if playing in their own zone just clicked for either one of them they would be a solid player, and I have no problem playing both of them to see if they can improve since it's not like we want to be pushing for the playoffs anyway. The value of sucking and developing these players is higher than the value of anything they could possibly return and moving Eriksson up the lineup.

I prefer Gaunce in the lineup because I really like him, but realistically who is this team going to bench to get him out there? We'll have injuries anyway and I have no problem giving some of our players a night off here and there to rest or whatever.

 

[me2]

Jake Allen might be battling an injury apparently. I wonder if St. Louis is a team you call about to see if they’re interested in Nilsson if Allen isn’t healthy for the start of the season.

Would you trade for Nilsson if you wanted to win games?

 

[PetterssonSimp]

Yepp one star in Boeser.Hopefully another in EP.Bo is a great 2nd line center playing a first line role as we dont have anything better then him.Then the rest of the team is made up of 3rd and 4th liners on big time contracts...our defence sucks again this year ..with garbage goaltending..
It looks like another season of doom and gloom..hold onto your hats...

Horvat’s been producing at borderline 1st line numbers since 2 years ago, last year further proved he may be at the bottom of the 1st line centres in terms of point production, but he’s pretty clearly a 1st line player. At least if you would play a Bergeron on your 1st line, you’d play Horvat on the 1st line.

 

[Dr Good Vibes]

Big problem with this team's future continues to be the defense core. Hughes helps that big time. Other than him I don't see a single player who's likely to be a top 4 D man. OJ's poor development and Tryamkin leaving really hurt.

We're gonna need some luck in free agency or some fast developing kids on the back end from last years draft, next year, and the year after that.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Yepp one star in Boeser.Hopefully another in EP.Bo is a great 2nd line center playing a first line role as we dont have anything better then him.Then the rest of the team is made up of 3rd and 4th liners on big time contracts...our defence sucks again this year ..with garbage goaltending..
It looks like another season of doom and gloom..hold onto your hats...

We knew it was going to be a poor season, perhaps the worst in franchise history.

I don't think the goaltending is as bad as it's made out to be. I see Markstrom as a starter level goalie. He's just playing on a terrible squad (again).

Defense is a joke, agreed.

Horvat is edging closer to 1C territory than 2C territory. His defense is what holds him back. If he shores it up and keeps his scoring pace going...

Horvat’s been producing at borderline 1st line numbers since 2 years ago, last year further proved he may be at the bottom of the 1st line centres in terms of point production, but he’s pretty clearly a 1st line player. At least if you would play a Bergeron on your 1st line, you’d play Horvat on the 1st line.

Horvat is not clearly a 1st line player, not yet. He has the offense, but lacks the defense. Once that gets better, then I think people will start classifying him as a legit 1C.

Bergeron and Horvat are completely different players. Bergeron is a 2way stalwart. Horvat might actually prove to be the better scorer/producer, but he's light years away in terms of defense.

 

[Scott Stevens]

Personally it would be tempting even with the risk of him walking next summer, the picks might be the part that would kill it. Karlsson would easily be the best defensemen the Canucks have ever had though.

Agree to disagree

 

[Cquant]

I've been wondering if there are any suitable landing spots for Gagner. Would Montreal be an option? They've been hurting for centers for so long, and now they've got Domi in the middle. This could give them an offensive option, even if he isn't ideal at all. They seem to be set in the bottom 6. But any injury to the top 6 and they don't really have any solutions.
We at least have Gaudette and possibly Granlund to push into that spot.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Few Proposals I was thinking about.

Considering RFA, and the fact that Anaheim has expressed big interest in Sutter, especially with Kesler our long term...

To Vancouver: Nick Ritchie

To Anaheim: Brandon Sutter+Brendan Gaunce

Also:

To Vegas: Michael Del Zotto+2nd 2020+Sam Gagner

To Vancouver: Shea Theodore .


Baertschi-Horvat-Boeser
Goldobin-Pettersson-Eriksson
Ritchie-Gaudette-Virtanen
Roussel-Beagle-Leipsic
Granlund/Schaller

Edler-Gudbranson
Theodore-Tanev
Hutton-Stetcher
Pouliot/Biega

Thoughts? Probably not enough.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I've been wondering if there are any suitable landing spots for Gagner. Would Montreal be an option? They've been hurting for centers for so long, and now they've got Domi in the middle. This could give them an offensive option, even if he isn't ideal at all. They seem to be set in the bottom 6. But any injury to the top 6 and they don't really have any solutions.
We at least have Gaudette and possibly Granlund to push into that spot.

Especially with the French name I think they would be I’d take a minor leaguer back even. Win-Win for both sides.

 

[Kryten]

Few Proposals I was thinking about.

Considering RFA, and the fact that Anaheim has expressed big interest in Sutter, especially with Kesler our long term...

To Vancouver: Nick Ritchie

To Anaheim: Brandon Sutter+Brendan Gaunce

Also:

To Vegas: Michael Del Zotto+2nd 2020+Sam Gagner

To Vancouver: Shea Theodore .


Baertschi-Horvat-Boeser
Goldobin-Pettersson-Eriksson
Ritchie-Gaudette-Virtanen
Roussel-Beagle-Leipsic
Granlund/Schaller

Edler-Gudbranson
Theodore-Tanev
Hutton-Stetcher
Pouliot/Biega

Thoughts? Probably not enough.

Not even close Id bet. Great trades for us, getting decent RFA year players for older long term overpaid players. Weirder things have happened I guess though

 

[me2]

Not even close Id bet. Great trades for us, getting decent RFA year players for older long term overpaid players. Weirder things have happened I guess though

MDZ, Gagner 2nd for Theodore is on the Erat for Forsberg scale, probably worse.

 

[Addison Rae]

Holy f*** that Theodore proposal is just horrible.

 

[elitepete]

Holy **** that Theodore proposal is just horrible.

You'd probably have to end up locking your own thread if you posted that on the main board.