Speculation: 2018 Off-Season: We fell short again... now what do we do?

Discussion in 'Tampa Bay Lightning' started by AlwaysSunnyInTampa, May 23, 2018.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
View Users: View Users
  1. Sky04

    Sky04 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Messages:
    17,364
    Likes Received:
    2,014
    Trophy Points:
    156
    And you know what happened to that powerhouse Washington core? It completely dismantled and they went through multiple coaching changes as well as a General Manager change, only Ovechkin and Backstrom remain intact from the previous Capitals group, the point is not to be like that with this team.

    Flavor of the month, I would not want to be like Capitals franchise that suffered over a decade of ridicule for not being able to win and then finally get a year where things finally align, because they've had that monkey on their back for so long I still wouldn't be as scared facing them next year as opposed to the previous champs like Pittsburgh, Chicago or LA.

    Chicago is more of the model franchise, have your core, move everything else around it, with a coach that plays to their strengths - their weakness is their management's poor asset usage and contract management which I don't think will be an issue for us as opposed to getting the right personnel.
     
    CupsOverCash and Stammertime91 like this.
  2. T REX

    T REX Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2013
    Messages:
    1,777
    Likes Received:
    639
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Lots of great posts.

    Anyone feel like this is Coopers last stand? Another ECF exit and he's done here?
     
  3. DFC

    DFC Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2013
    Messages:
    26,285
    Likes Received:
    2,476
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Location:
    NB
    I don't know if we can fire him after an ECF exit. Maybe. Anything less than that, though, and I think his seat will be warm, at the very least. I don't think it's warm now, despite my own dissatisfaction with him.
     
  4. DFC

    DFC Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2013
    Messages:
    26,285
    Likes Received:
    2,476
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Location:
    NB
    I was talking about Washington basically in the past couple of years, not the past decade. This is mostly the same core as the team that put up 120 points in 2016 and then got bounced in the 2nd round.
     
  5. Felonious Python

    Felonious Python Still Drej

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2004
    Messages:
    17,636
    Likes Received:
    442
    Trophy Points:
    154
    Location:
    The Hot Seat
    yeah...we might want to pass.
     
    Stammertime91 likes this.
  6. CupsOverCash

    CupsOverCash Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2009
    Messages:
    7,681
    Likes Received:
    1,213
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Well playoffs or fired we can probably start there. I think after that would depend on how the team got eliminated. If we lost a super close series with an equal team then he will probably keep his job. If we have a repeat of this years elimination at that kind of stage, I think SY moves on. For me it depends on how our guys are playing in the end.
     
    T REX likes this.
  7. Todd1a

    Todd1a Kucherov or prospect

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2014
    Messages:
    10,530
    Likes Received:
    413
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Location:
    orlando, fl
  8. Stammertime91

    Stammertime91 Keep on keepin' on!

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2011
    Messages:
    6,111
    Likes Received:
    1,437
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Location:
    Sunshine State
    This stuff about Hoffman is awful. Guy either has such low self esteem he has to stay with that woman, is afraid, or is perfectly fine being in a toxic relationship with a spawn of Satan.




    Or the 1% chance he knew absolutely nothing about this. Hard pass on bringing something like that here. It would be like bringing the girl from the ring here to take the top line LW spot.
     
  9. Felonious Python

    Felonious Python Still Drej

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2004
    Messages:
    17,636
    Likes Received:
    442
    Trophy Points:
    154
    Location:
    The Hot Seat
    I've got to wonder if this would also drop Karlsson's trade value a bit since Ottawa clearly has to move one of them.
     
  10. Sky04

    Sky04 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Messages:
    17,364
    Likes Received:
    2,014
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Any "decrease" in value will be driven up by the bidding war now that all teams know he's more available.
     
    Felonious Python likes this.
  11. Sky04

    Sky04 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Messages:
    17,364
    Likes Received:
    2,014
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Not really that far a cry, she did everything between social media and the with ease of switching though accounts and hiding your activity isn't that hard. With how often the guy is away, if she's thorough enough she can easily keep it from him. Given she's been buying hacked accounts and de-activating them shows she's carefully planning these vindictive attacks. Not only that but do you think any logical person would risk their career on something like this? This is career ending if he had any part of it.

    Guy is kind of given flack right now, if this news was just sprung on him he also has to go through his own verification process, not just dump his fiance he's been with for years because rumors from other people and the media came about. His initial comment was that he has nothing to say right now, then came back and said it was "150% not 'them', and 'they' are in full cooperation with the investigation" considering he was never under suspicion he's still under the mantra that him and his girlfriend are a "team." Poor guy I think he's seriously just getting played, of course she's going to deny it, she's digging herself a bigger hole and unfortunately he's going down with her.
     
    Stammertime91 likes this.
  12. Hit The Lights

    Hit The Lights Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,152
    Likes Received:
    1,980
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Gender:
    Male
    No mention of TB fwiw
     
  13. Master P

    Master P Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2016
    Messages:
    3,667
    Likes Received:
    2,965
    Trophy Points:
    112
    Location:
    Florida
    Probably for the best
     
  14. DFC

    DFC Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2013
    Messages:
    26,285
    Likes Received:
    2,476
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Location:
    NB
    The hoffman story is pretty insane.

    I'm not sure karlsson is realistic now that we have McDonagh. Has the full almost-deal with Vegas been reported? Is it something we could compete with?
     
  15. Todd1a

    Todd1a Kucherov or prospect

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2014
    Messages:
    10,530
    Likes Received:
    413
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Location:
    orlando, fl
    That’s because leaks don’t get out from yzerman ever
     
  16. Stammertime91

    Stammertime91 Keep on keepin' on!

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2011
    Messages:
    6,111
    Likes Received:
    1,437
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Location:
    Sunshine State
    You're right. We just leave our plans on draft tables.
     
    Master P likes this.
  17. Todd1a

    Todd1a Kucherov or prospect

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2014
    Messages:
    10,530
    Likes Received:
    413
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Location:
    orlando, fl
    Buffalo 2015 lol
     
  18. DFC

    DFC Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2013
    Messages:
    26,285
    Likes Received:
    2,476
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Location:
    NB
    The real reason Bowness got fired.
     
    Todd1a likes this.
  19. CupsOverCash

    CupsOverCash Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2009
    Messages:
    7,681
    Likes Received:
    1,213
    Trophy Points:
    109
    A thing that could get interesting about Karlsson is that he is up for UFA next offseason. A team that trades for him would probably like to know that he will come back before giving up assets for him. This is something that could make it possible for us. Keyword could lol. We would have to outbid a team that he is willing to re-sign with. If he wants/prefers to play here that could give us an advantage. I dont think we will land him. I think we have a much higher possibility signing him in FA next summer than any trade this year. Even then SY would have to have his wizardry handy to get something done. I think McDonagh trade made it less likely we trade for him.
     
  20. DistantThunderRep

    DistantThunderRep Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2018
    Messages:
    535
    Likes Received:
    329
    Trophy Points:
    46
    If by some complete fluke of nature we acquire Karlsson and still manage to fail at winning the cup, Cooper's head will be paraded through Channelside and left on a pike in thunder alley for all to remember.

    Hedman - Stralman/Girardi
    McDonut - Karlsson
    Sergachev - Girardi/Stralman

    We would be the definition of a rich kid's NHL Ultimate Team on NHL 18/19.
     
    CupsOverCash likes this.
  21. OurlordAndSaviorKuch

    OurlordAndSaviorKuch Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2011
    Messages:
    3,148
    Likes Received:
    940
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Florida
    I have been holding off on this for awhile to let myself mourn the death of another great season. I don’t know what we do almost the entire team disappeared against the caps and we just didn’t seem to want it. Also an amusing though but two times in a row that we have lost in the ecf the team that has beaten us has become the eventual champion. That is sickening. Maybe bring in EK for a rental year? I mean it can’t hurt Sens are sure to trade him with this Hoffman drama going on.
     
  22. AlwaysSunnyInTampa

    AlwaysSunnyInTampa At last!! Street cred is mine!

    Joined:
    May 17, 2014
    Messages:
    16,389
    Likes Received:
    2,438
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Wouldn't you like to know
    Location:
    Tampa Bay
    I find it highly doubtful that we'll have both McDonagh AND Karlsson together. If we actually managed that we'd cap hell ourselves harder than the Hawks because I don't see how McDonagh doesn't ask for 8 years and Karlsson 7. The amount of cap coming off the top would have to be something like Stralman (4.5 million), Coburn (3.7 million), Girardi (3 million), Callahan (5.8 million), Johnson (5 million). That totals $19 million and that's not including the fact we'll have to re-sign Point, Kucherov, Gourde AND the fact that we're not totaling other contracts currently up like Miller and Domingue. Despite the fact I think it would make us a better team (I think in a perfect world we keep Stralman) I don't see Yzerman committing to that many players at the same time. A man can dream though

    2020

    Hedman-Sergachev
    McDonagh-Karlsson
    Cernak-Foote
     
  23. Todd1a

    Todd1a Kucherov or prospect

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2014
    Messages:
    10,530
    Likes Received:
    413
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Location:
    orlando, fl
    plus we can resign McDonagh for way less then EK
     
  24. Fabiobest

    Fabiobest Italian Thunder!

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2017
    Messages:
    2,330
    Likes Received:
    423
    Trophy Points:
    79
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Turin, Italy


    First trade of this post season.
     
  25. KingsHockey24

    KingsHockey24 Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2013
    Messages:
    6,858
    Likes Received:
    1,851
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    California
    I'm so sorry guys.

    Pray he doesn't end up on your NHL roster.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"