Prospect Info: 2018 NHL Draft / Pick #22 - K'Andre Miller (D) - Part II

[GoAwayPanarin]

He’s probably staying for 2, as he should....

Unless he kills it even further for the rest of the year. That means in all aspects.

 

[Miamipuck]

I watched the entire game posted above and that was one of the most non-de script 4 point games I have seen. I am not saying he wasn't good but it wasn't a 4 point game of a guy dominating college hockey. He made some good plays showed some skill but there were also plays where he was standing still and a goal was scored. So I think he still needs some work to do on his over all game. My guess is at least 1 more year.

 

[Fitzy]

Yeah. He's having a fantastic start to the season, but it's not like he's Jack Eichel out there where he's just making other guys look foolish and completely dominating. He can still gain a lot from another year down there, the strength training, playing against guys that are more mature but not yet at the AHL level, etc.

I got to see a couple Eichel games in the NCAA and it was just really entertaining. Reminded me of when Paul Kariya played for UMaine back in the day. Just schooling entire teams.

For Miller- he's got more to learn there than just scoring. He's in a good system to build his fundamentals as a hockey player before going pro.

 

[cwede]

He’s probably staying for 2, as he should....

... For Miller- he's got more to learn there than just scoring. He's in a good system to build his fundamentals as a hockey player before going pro.

i expect he stays at least 3,

if he is a top 10 player as Frosh/soph,
could even wear a letter as a Jr

he's only been playing D a couple years,
B10 is good hockey with good rivalries

no need to rush him

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I watched the entire game posted above and that was one of the most non-de script 4 point games I have seen. I am not saying he wasn't good but it wasn't a 4 point game of a guy dominating college hockey. He made some good plays showed some skill but there were also plays where he was standing still and a goal was scored. So I think he still needs some work to do on his over all game. My guess is at least 1 more year.

Jesus, I guess this is a first world problem. We're now complaining about nondescript 4 point games from our college freshman defensive prospects.

 

[GAGLine]

K'Andre the Giant

 

[kovazub94]

Jesus, I guess this is a first world problem. We're now complaining about nondescript 4 point games from our college freshman defensive prospects.

I think a good dose of reality from someone who viewed the whole game is not a bad thing. It was said in the context of a discussion on how long Miller should stay in school and it is appropriate to note that it wasn’t in Hughes (or Eichel) dominant way.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I think a good dose of reality from someone who viewed the whole game is not a bad thing. It was said in the context of a discussion on how long Miller should stay in school and it is appropriate to note that it wasn’t in Hughes (or Eichel) dominant way.

I know, I was half being facetious.

 

[BroadwayStorm]

He needs to stay there until he proves that level is below him. He is a defenseman let him cook there with fundamentals so when he gets up here he can hit the ground running. He oozes talent and I want him to be great.

 

[EdJovanovski]

K'Andre the Giant

Yes

 

[I Eat Crow]

I got to see a couple Eichel games in the NCAA and it was just really entertaining. Reminded me of when Paul Kariya played for UMaine back in the day. Just schooling entire teams.

For Miller- he's got more to learn there than just scoring. He's in a good system to build his fundamentals as a hockey player before going pro.

Which is exactly why I'd let him cook in the NCAA for at least one more season after this one. It's great that he's putting up the numbers that he is, don't get me wrong. The Rangers front office and coaches should be telling him to focus on the finer nuances of his defensive game in the second half of this year and sophomore season. The points will come if he continues to play smart hockey.

 

[Fitzy]

Which is exactly why I'd let him cook in the NCAA for at least one more season after this one. It's great that he's putting up the numbers that he is, don't get me wrong. The Rangers front office and coaches should be telling him to focus on the finer nuances of his defensive game in the second half of this year and sophomore season. The points will come if he continues to play smart hockey.

The one downside is he will still have a big adjustment in the speed-of-game difference which is so profound from NCAA to NHL. It's one of the reasons why Pionk has better angles during cycle plays in the NHL as opposed to quick end-to-end rushes.

But there's really no league that has things happen at the speed of the NHL. Certainly not Europe.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Jesus, I guess this is a first world problem. We're now complaining about nondescript 4 point games from our college freshman defensive prospects.

I didn't think he was complaining. I thought it was a valid point. He's gotta become a great defenseman, not just a guy who stands still and ends up the lucky beneficiary of a weak secondary assist.

He's clearly NOT just that. But that doesnt mean he doesnt still have a ton to work on

I know, I was half being facetious.

f***ing goddammit. (Pulls old, dusty tomb off book shelf) fa...fac... face...facete... facilitate...nope too far.

Goddamit Webster this is why zeus invented the internet

Apparently facete, a random thing I typed actually IS an archaic stand in for facetious. Not going to pretend I knew that at all bc I didnt. Insane coincidence

 

[darko]

I just hope that he doesn't put up like 35 points this season and then "only" record 28 next season, leading people to think he regressed. It can be difficult, even for forwards, to put up continually escalating point totals in the NCAA. And that's because of graduations and guys leaving early, which can rather dramatically alter the talent level on a team. Like you can be a 40-point wing as a Sophomore and then your top C and LW graduate and suddenly you're a Junior playing with a less-talented Sophomore C and Freshman LW, and you put up 30 points. You didn't get worse, the team just changed. Happens all the time in NCAA hockey. So...just trying to prepare people, if that starts to happen a year from now.

Less points = bust.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Less points = bust.

Fewer points...

 

[Ail]

K'Andre the Giant

I didn’t like the pick before but now he is my favorite prospect.

 

[darko]

Fewer points...

Your wrong.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Your wrong.

You're doing this on purpose now. Stop it!

 

[NYRKING30]

I didn't think he was complaining. I thought it was a valid point. He's gotta become a great defenseman, not just a guy who stands still and ends up the lucky beneficiary of a weak secondary assist.

He's clearly NOT just that. But that doesnt mean he doesnt still have a ton to work on



****ing goddammit. (Pulls old, dusty tomb off book shelf) fa...fac... face...facete... facilitate...nope too far.

Goddamit Webster this is why zeus invented the internet

Apparently facete, a random thing I typed actually IS an archaic stand in for facetious. Not going to pretend I knew that at all bc I didnt. Insane coincidence

Careful there @Webster might think your referring to his guy Zucc instead of the god Zeus..

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Jesus, I guess this is a first world problem. We're now complaining about nondescript 4 point games from our college freshman defensive prospects.

My only counter to that is that those non descript plays are the ones that usually translate.

Keeping a puck in at the point, making a clean pass out of your own end, etc. those are the things that work. Not everything has to be rushing the puck end to end, even if there is some of that in his game.

The 4 point game was not something we can expect very often though. He had with out a doubt been a bit lucky with the production so far, but it’s not all a fluke.

 

[Miamipuck]

I think a good dose of reality from someone who viewed the whole game is not a bad thing. It was said in the context of a discussion on how long Miller should stay in school and it is appropriate to note that it wasn’t in Hughes (or Eichel) dominant way.

I know, I was half being facetious.

I didn't think he was complaining. I thought it was a valid point. He's gotta become a great defenseman, not just a guy who stands still and ends up the lucky beneficiary of a weak secondary assist.

He's clearly NOT just that. But that doesnt mean he doesnt still have a ton to work on



****ing goddammit. (Pulls old, dusty tomb off book shelf) fa...fac... face...facete... facilitate...nope too far.

Goddamit Webster this is why zeus invented the internet

Apparently facete, a random thing I typed actually IS an archaic stand in for facetious. Not going to pretend I knew that at all bc I didnt. Insane coincidence

It was one game and to be honest the first full game I have ever watched of K'Andre. I wasn't about to extrapolate out to his entire season so far. I was just saying that this wasn't some 4 point domination though. Watch the game, his points were flukey, he got a primary assist on a flubbed shot, a couple of secondary assists. His goal was a good play catching the puck placing it down and shooting in pretty much one motion.

I am willing to bet he did a heck of a lot more in games where he didn't produce points than in this one. What he's good at is gap control and the neutral zone. I guess you're not really going to see exceptional defensive play in a 7-5 game.

 

[Machinehead]

K'Andre the Giant

This and K'Iller are fantastic nicknames.

He may be 2-3 years away, but our work is done.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Team USA WJC prelim roster is being released in a few hours...29 players will be on it.

 

[Machinehead]

Fewer points...

He's speaking Australian

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

He's speaking Australian

My manager is Australian, and I've been teaching him the difference between less and fewer for over a year and he's finally getting it now. I will take my time with darko