2018-2019 Around the league thread #5

[AllAboutAvs]

Probably not at all tbh. He's won 2 Stanley Cups, 2 Olympic Golds, 1 World Cup, and 1 Norris Trophy.

Sure, losing sucks. But the guy has all the hardware already. This was his opportunity to get PAID while living in California getting to play hockey.

I think you are underestimating how much he hates to lose. Players like him don't care how often they have won. They want more and more and more. It is wired into them.

 

[21]

Laine is back (??) cool, I really like the guy. He is the type of player managing scoring 20-30 goals even when looking lazy & awful but he is having true superstar potential. I know even the Finns themselves are confused about Laine and having mixed feelings. ;-) Jets looking like a very dangerous team this season.

 

[21]

Meanwhile in the Red Wings forum:
"Nemeth I thought was good and has been a fantastic acquisition so far, if he keeps this play up we can fetch a big bounty for him come TDL next year if we are so inclined."

 

[Foxtail]

He was just a throw in for Kerfoot.

Barrie ended up -4 lol

Edit: Barrie -6 in the last 2 games and on the Leafs board they already like Kerfoot better and don't seem interested in extending Barrie lol.

 

[Gatorbait19]

Barrie ended up -4 lol

Edit: Barrie -6 in the last 2 games and on the Leafs board they already like Kerfoot better and don't seem interested in extending Barrie lol.

Good thing they already locked up the soon-to-be 3 time Selke winner

 

[Ivan13]

There's three ways to go about ex-players:

1. Appreciate them for what they brought here and wish them well
2. Forget they existed and pay them no mind
3. Be a clown who has to crap on them to make himself feel better

 

[Bubba Thudd]

Oilers-Devils game.
If you are going to sing the other country's anthem you should probably learn how to pronounce the country's name properly. It's not Ca-nay-da, it's Ca-na-da you idiot.

 

[Ivan13]

BTW, the lack of effort by the Leafs on the backcheck and in general how their forwards support their defensemen is outrageous. On the first ES goal there is a shooter right between the faceoff dots and no one is covering him, he shoots at Anderson who spills the puck that hit him in the chest. On the 2nd ES goal, they let Shatty dance through without no one laying a finger on him, Rielly being the biggest culprit there. On the 3rd one Muzzin gives up the zone easily, Barrie is late getting back, but there are also no forwards actively backchecking which results in an easy re-direct goal. But the 4th ES goal is actually hideous. No one tries to get back after a turnover, and Barrie is left 2 on 1, and in the end, Andersen gets beat on a shot he shouldn't have been beaten on.

 

[S E P H]

Changing topics to the Devils, I think they'll be in better shape tanking this year and eventually trading Taylor Hall and getting something substantial back (IE Matt Duchene trade). Then hopefully they stay in the top four after the drafting lottery and grab one of Lafreniere, Byfield, Raymond, or whoever #4 will be to replace Hall. That player will probably be at least Hall-good and in some ways others such as Lafreniere have the talent to even be better than him and they're all cost-controlled as well. Another aspect they could consider is finishing 5th to 11th as a blessing in disguise and drafting Askarov if HockeyProspects.com rankings are anything to uphold (which IMHO they are).

 

[Ararana]

Barrie ended up -4 lol

Edit: Barrie -6 in the last 2 games and on the Leafs board they already like Kerfoot better and don't seem interested in extending Barrie lol.

As Avs fans very will know; Barrie giveth and Barrie taketh away.

 

[Pokecheque]

I've said before and I'll say it again, Freddy Andersen is not a legit franchise goalie. Certainly not for the Leafs to do what they want to do.

 

[Foxtail]

I've said before and I'll say it again, Freddy Andersen is not a legit franchise goalie. Certainly not for the Leafs to do what they want to do.

Was listening to tsn 1050 podcast this morning and buddy kept calling him a no doubt top 5 goalie. He's nowhere near that for me.

 

[Pokecheque]

Was listening to tsn 1050 podcast this morning and buddy kept calling him a no doubt top 5 goalie. He's nowhere near that for me.

That's laughable. For all the hell Gardiner took in those Game 7s, Andersen was bloody horrible in both of those contests.

 

[Gatorbait19]

Changing topics to the Devils, I think they'll be in better shape tanking this year and eventually trading Taylor Hall and getting something substantial back (IE Matt Duchene trade). Then hopefully they stay in the top four after the drafting lottery and grab one of Lafreniere, Byfield, Raymond, or whoever #4 will be to replace Hall. That player will probably be at least Hall-good and in some ways others such as Lafreniere have the talent to even be better than him and they're all cost-controlled as well. Another aspect they could consider is finishing 5th to 11th as a blessing in disguise and drafting Askarov if HockeyProspects.com rankings are anything to uphold (which IMHO they are).

I’ve said this for a while. They have a window of 1-2 years where they’re going to suck before Hughes/Hischier really take off. They should trade Hall for as good picks and prospects as they can. I’d also trade subban and eat 50% of his cap hit, which would give you at least a 1st +.

 

[Balthazar]

Changing topics to the Devils, I think they'll be in better shape tanking this year and eventually trading Taylor Hall and getting something substantial back (IE Matt Duchene trade). Then hopefully they stay in the top four after the drafting lottery and grab one of Lafreniere, Byfield, Raymond, or whoever #4 will be to replace Hall. That player will probably be at least Hall-good and in some ways others such as Lafreniere have the talent to even be better than him and they're all cost-controlled as well. Another aspect they could consider is finishing 5th to 11th as a blessing in disguise and drafting Askarov if HockeyProspects.com rankings are anything to uphold (which IMHO they are).

They aren't getting anywhere near Duchene's return for rental Hall.

This is a team that got insanely lucky twice with the lottery at our expense. I don't like them and I don't like their star players.

 

[Balthazar]

I’ve said this for a while. They have a window of 1-2 years where they’re going to suck before Hughes/Hischier really take off. They should trade Hall for as good picks and prospects as they can. I’d also trade subban and eat 50% of his cap hit, which would give you at least a 1st +.

Send Subban to Winnipeg. They deserve each other.

 

[Gatorbait19]

Send Subban to Winnipeg. They deserve each other.

Actually seems like a really good idea. I could easily see Winnipeg sending a 1st+ to the Devils for subban.

 

[Pokecheque]

If the Devils tank it, Hynes is gone for sure, probably Shero as well.

 

[dahrougem2]

All I know is the Jets HAVE to do something. You can't let these final years of Blake Wheeler waste away with an AHL defence corps.

 

[Bubba Thudd]

All I know is the Jets HAVE to do something. You can't let these final years of Blake Wheeler waste away with an AHL defence corps.

Really?
Blake Wheeler is a good hockey player and all, but it's not like a tragedy if he doesn't win anything. He's not a player you build around, he's a complimentary piece.

 

[Avsboy]

Really?
Blake Wheeler is a good hockey player and all, but it's not like a tragedy if he doesn't win anything. He's not a player you build around, he's a complimentary piece.

Blake Wheeler is top 5 in scoring if you combine the past 5 seasons.

 

[flyfysher]

Watching the Hurricanes and Islanders. Announcer was recounting a story about Niederreiter saying how everyone was commenting how fast MacKinnon was his rookie year and Niederreiter thought he's just as fast. Made me think, yeah, you're fast but no one has MacKinnon's explosiveness.

No matter how you cut it

Niederreiter<MacKinnon

 

[ETTHAKING67]

Mack est so fast with the puck, it's stupid.
I agree the devils should trade Hall, I wonder what they can get for him ?
Depending WHEN they trade him, probably a 1st and a A/B+ Prospect, no ? Before trading Hall they might want to get ride of Hynes, their puck possesion stats are so low....

 

[dahrougem2]

Really?
Blake Wheeler is a good hockey player and all, but it's not like a tragedy if he doesn't win anything. He's not a player you build around, he's a complimentary piece.

He's been the Jets' best player for years now and I believe is still their best overall player.

I don't think he's a complimentary piece at all.

 

[MarkT]

Some thought around the league.

• Quick should be traded as soon a as a good deal can be made. It's time for the Kings to pass the net on to the next generation. Trade quick while he still has value to a team that thinks they're just a goalie away from competing.
• That Detroit top line is going to hurt their chances of getting the #1 overall pick they're obviously going for.
• Toronto management forgot that you need players who can clear the front of your net and play physical sometimes.