The Kingslayer
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I love Greer on the bench there hahaha. He loves this stuff. Should be in the NHL right now.
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I love Greer on the bench there hahaha. He loves this stuff. Should be in the NHL right now.
tigervixxxen
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Good timing, he scored the game winning goal yesterday. They played him a lot in a close game too, he's playing well. I can't even guess at what plan, if any, the Avs have for him at this point. He should be a two-way physical defender with a good first pass and can sprinkle in some offense.
Would you say he’s playing at/near the level Graves was when he was given his shot with the Avs?
Avsrule2022
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Meloche has played above Graves level for the entire year.
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In the games I took in, that was certainly the case. A difference between the two is Meloche has a higher ceiling and has further to go on the development curve while Graves is pretty much a finished project and you find a role for him or don't...
So, likely Graves has been getting looks as he stands to gain less from additional AHL-time?
Also am I correct in thinking Meloche is still waiver exempt next year if he makes a case for sticking with the Avs or at least bouncing back and forth?
Also am I correct in thinking Meloche is still waiver exempt next year if he makes a case for sticking with the Avs or at least bouncing back and forth?
Eagles playing well the past week and just took two games from Tucson to jump over them in the standings...of course on the back of Francouz. Not sure if I am 100% sure here, but I think in the Western Conference and differences in the number of games gives each division four spots for the playoffs compared to the 5/3 we see in the NHL. They've played a couple more games compared to some other teams as of now, but they're currently in a playoff spot.
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Can't help but wonder that the move to acquire Brassard and then immediately demote Greer et al was to placate Eagles ownership as much as it was to try and make the Avs better. But AJ Greer is not under contract with the Colorado Eagles, he is under contract with the Colorado Avalanche and the organization should act as such. If they wanted to bolster the AHL lineup then they should've made separate moves in order to do so. And it sounds like they could have, and chose not to do so. But this current situation is interminable.
tigervixxxen
Optimism=Delusional
Graves never really looked good in the AHL, lots of turnovers. He benefits from better structure in the NHL.
Yes Meloche is waiver exempt another year but he should be getting a look now. He's over 100 AHL games played and held up his end of the bargain.
cgf
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Sadly I think it's more to do with the way we've handcuffed ourselves with too many low end-to-middling veterans on the backend again.
For someone who never gets to see the Eagles, we talking good enough to let Nemeth walk this summer? Any chance that's what they're waiting for?
The naive optimist in me was hoping a contender would fool themselves into taking Cole off our hands and help solve the underwhelming-vet logjam we've got going in the 5/6/7 spots.
tigervixxxen
Optimism=Delusional
He needs NHL experience and exposure to become an option, waiting longer in the AHL now isn't going to change that.
Makar should be the one to push Nemeth out anyway.
Makar should be the one to push Nemeth out anyway.
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In the midst of a playoff push is not the time to bring up a rookie defensemen. Not because Meloche isn't capable or possibly couldn't add to the team, but that a coach isn't going to give him the leash to survive the natural mistakes that will happen.
cgf
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Just like with Francouz, I get that, but to me that just indicts the decisions made earlier in the year that have prevented them from having won some trust with the coach prior to the playoff-push.
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30-35 games ago was a different story with Meloche too... he will get his time. I'm not always thrilled with how the Avs handle these situations, but not calling up Meloche in Nov/Dec is not something I'd pin on them. Next year, he should be getting that shot.
cgf
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How would you propose they get him in the lineup? Given that they missed the boat with Cole being out.
So you're still not a fan of the Red Wings maturation process? Sure Meloche has played 100 games, but that's simply just two seasons. Do you have comparables where 100 games is enough for defenders? I am not against the idea of giving him some NHL games next season, especially when injuries hit. However, I neither see a problem where playing him 22 minutes a night on the top-pairing in the AHL for one more season is wrong either.
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With you on this one. We should be patient with some of these guys and overdevelop them rather than putting them into situations like Jost where expectations can crush their confidence.So you're still not a fan of the Red Wings maturation process? Sure Meloche has played 100 games, but that's simply just two seasons. Do you have comparables where 100 games is enough for defenders? I am not against the idea of giving him some NHL games next season, especially when injuries hit. However, I neither see a problem where playing him 22 minutes a night on the top-pairing in the AHL for one more season is wrong either.
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