2018-19 Blackhawks Roster Part 4

[LDF]

While they need forwards, it's pretty damn obvious watching the games that the D is the big issue, and was needed in the draft. And great D are far harder to come by than good forwards.

the D's that the Bhawks have keyed on, well they need time to develop, that is my point.

last yr, a move up to get a Filip Zadina or Oliver Wahlstrom would have been a better choice ..... don't get me wrong, i like Adam Boqvist but my main beef with SB is he does not or have not the ability to see what wrong with the current team... the team in real life.

he good to great on scouting..... but he can't fix a team.

 

[LDF]

Jake Wise should've been a first round pick. He can be a 2C.

ref to wise, i know nothing of him, but i am a fan so i depend on the profile that the sports site writes up.

 

[ChiHawks10]

the D's that the Bhawks have keyed on, well they need time to develop, that is my point.

last yr, a move up to get a Filip Zadina or Oliver Wahlstrom would have been a better choice ..... don't get me wrong, i like Adam Boqvist but my main beef with SB is he does not or have not the ability to see what wrong with the current team... the team in real life.

he good to great on scouting..... but he can't fix a team.

Wrong. 2013? 2015?

And what is wrong with the current team? The defense. Not the forwards... He drafted for the D because the D are the issue... Odds are highly likely that a forward drafted in that spot is not in the NHL yet, either.

They're top 5 in goals for. They're top 10 in SH%. They're top 6 in shots. They're top 3 in even strength goals for.

Their problem is not the forwards. At all. Not even close.

You're just wrong on this one.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Wrong. 2013? 2015?

And what is wrong with the current team? The defense. Not the forwards... He drafted for the D because the D are the issue... Odds are highly likely that a forward drafted in that spot is not in the NHL yet, either.

They're top 5 in goals for. They're top 10 in SH%. They're top 6 in shots. They're top 3 in even strength goals for.

Their problem is not the forwards. At all. Not even close.

You're just wrong on this one.

It's not the forwards.....yet.
What is going to happen when the scoring from DCat, Kane, and Toews dries up? They aren't going to score at a goal per game pace the entire season.

 

[ChiHawks10]

It's not the forwards.....yet.
What is going to happen when the scoring from DCat, Kane, and Toews dries up? They aren't going to score at a goal per game pace the entire season.

Even still. It's not the top 6 at all. They need some balance/offense from their bottom 6. A couple of call-ups can help with that, potentially. The big issue is the D. And will be the issue all season long, unless they get healthy, and take steps forward as a unit. I don't know how anyone could think this team's issue is anything other than their defense.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Even still. It's not the top 6 at all. They need some balance/offense from their bottom 6. A couple of call-ups can help with that, potentially. The big issue is the D. And will be the issue all season long, unless they get healthy, and take steps forward as a unit. I don't know how anyone could think this team's issue is anything other than their defense.

Definitely not the top 6, but our depth will bite us in the ass when the Top 6 struggles to score.
But yes, it's obvious our D is the big weak link.

 

[bwana63]

Most of these Saad trade scenarios are wishful thinking. He needs to be productive over the course of probably months, 'cause he's damaged goods right now.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Definitely not the top 6, but our depth will bite us in the ass when the Top 6 struggles to score.
But yes, it's obvious our D is the big weak link.

And a top 10 pick at forward wouldn't have changed that. Which is the point I was trying to make to LDF. Especially since that player is likely not even in the NHL this year.

 

[Hawkaholic]

And a top 10 forward wouldn't have changed that. Which is the point I was trying to make to LDF. Especially since that player is likely not even in the NHL this year.

I agree. I was just pointing out that our forwards will be a problem eventually.

 

[ChiHawks10]

I agree. I was just pointing out that our forwards will be a problem eventually.

Unless guys like Fortin and Sikura and Hayden start to produce some offense. I expect they eventually will. Just need to be patient.

 

[LDF]

Wrong. 2013? 2015?

And what is wrong with the current team? The defense. Not the forwards... He drafted for the D because the D are the issue... Odds are highly likely that a forward drafted in that spot is not in the NHL yet, either.

They're top 5 in goals for. They're top 10 in SH%. They're top 6 in shots. They're top 3 in even strength goals for.

Their problem is not the forwards. At all. Not even close.

You're just wrong on this one.

ok the forward you are talking or hinting may not full full a line #1 type of forward.

he is behind in fixing the team. this goes back several yrs and now it is obvious the team is behind in the personnel to step in and assume the responsibility of line 1 or 2.

Schmaltz and or the Cat does not a full team. Kahun has not fully shown he is the answer. T+K is getting older.

the NHL and NHL Players' Association needs to work out a deal for a new contract but hedging everything on that possible discussion should not affect the draft ....

 

[LDF]

Even still. It's not the top 6 at all. They need some balance/offense from their bottom 6. A couple of call-ups can help with that, potentially. The big issue is the D. And will be the issue all season long, unless they get healthy, and take steps forward as a unit. I don't know how anyone could think this team's issue is anything other than their defense.

yet line 3 or 4 is not setting the team on fire with their scoring.

 

[LDF]

I agree. I was just pointing out that our forwards will be a problem eventually.

every season, players get hot and cold..... right now the Bhawks line 1 and 2 are hot...... how long will they carry the team ???

 

[Hawkaholic]

Unless guys like Fortin and Sikura and Hayden start to produce some offense. I expect they eventually will. Just need to be patient.

I don't see it from Fortin, of Hayden, offensively. Fortin has no finish, and I can only see Hayden producing if he is put on Kanes line.
And I see Sikura in the AHL for the majority of the year.

 

[ChiHawks10]

ok the forward you are talking or hinting may not full full a line #1 type of forward.

he is behind in fixing the team. this goes back several yrs and now it is obvious the team is behind in the personnel to step in and assume the responsibility of line 1 or 2.

Schmaltz and or the Cat does not a full team. Kahun has not fully shown he is the answer. T+K is getting older.

the NHL and NHL Players' Association needs to work out a deal for a new contract but hedging everything on that possible discussion should not affect the draft ....

Now I really have no idea what you're talking about.

The team is behind in the personnel for the top 6 because the Hawks have been drafting very late in the first round for years, up until recently, and with those recent picks, the defense was addressed first, as they're older than the offensive core. You don't find many top 6 forwards sitting at 30th in the 1st round. And again, the top 6 isn't the issue. The bottom 6 depth is...

 

[LDF]

And a top 10 pick at forward wouldn't have changed that. Which is the point I was trying to make to LDF. Especially since that player is likely not even in the NHL this year.

no or maybe not, the 2 forwards can or could have been either the future T or K going forward....

 

[LDF]

I don't see it from Fortin, of Hayden, offensively. Fortin has no finish, and I can only see Hayden producing if he is put on Kanes line.
And I see Sikura in the AHL for the majority of the year.

Hayden, i see him as a line 4 or maybe a line 3...... not a top line forward. the jury is still out on Sikura.

 

[Hawkaholic]

no or maybe not, the 2 forwards can or could have been either the future T or K going forward....

No, they won't.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Hayden, i see him as a line 4 or maybe a line 3...... not a top line forward. the jury is still out on Sikura.

Again.. I'm not talking about the top 6, because the top 6 is NOT the issue. The scoring from the bottom 6 is the issue. They need DEPTH on offense. The top 6 is good. The bottom 6 is not.

 

[LDF]

No, they won't.

and you can see the future......

they will have a great future. i just hope they will develop....

 

[LDF]

Again.. I'm not talking about the top 6, because the top 6 is NOT the issue. The scoring from the bottom 6 is the issue. They need DEPTH on offense. The top 6 is good. The bottom 6 is not.

with this point ..... i am in agreement. even thou my 10 game probation is not there.

 

[ChiHawks10]

and you can see the future......

they will have a great future. i just hope they will develop....

Future Toews and Kane type of players aren't drafted with the 10th, or 15th, or 30th pick in the 1st round. They're taken Top 3 overall... Which is something the Hawks haven't done since drafting Kane.

 

[LDF]

Now I really have no idea what you're talking about.

The team is behind in the personnel for the top 6 because the Hawks have been drafting very late in the first round for years, up until recently, and with those recent picks, the defense was addressed first, as they're older than the offensive core. You don't find many top 6 forwards sitting at 30th in the 1st round. And again, the top 6 isn't the issue. The bottom 6 depth is...

i am talking about getting players who are young and fill up the systems with bodies who can slide in line 1 or 2 on any teams.

the team thrives on who the key members performs.

 

[LDF]

Future Toews and Kane type of players aren't drafted with the 10th, or 15th, or 30th pick in the 1st round. They're taken Top 3 overall... Which is something the Hawks haven't done since drafting Kane.

and as i mention before, work out a trade to move up ???

 

[ChiHawks10]

and as i mention before, work out a trade to move up ???

Easier said than done. Teams dont usually trade their top 5 picks... and when they do, the team trading up gives up a ton...