Didn't need charts to know Maatta is not a guy you actively target. I have never really liked his game. He looked like an AHL player compared to Risto this Summer.
Speculation: 2017 Trade Deadline Discussion - Part 2
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Didn't need charts to know Maatta is not a guy you actively target. I have never really liked his game. He looked like an AHL player compared to Risto this Summer.
If memory serves me correct Pavol Demitra was part of the deal. Left a very bitter taste in my mouth that Hasek held us ransom like that.
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I don't blame Hasek. But it was a dick move. If I was him, I'd want to be traded to a team capable of winning the Cup.
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The 2nd we'd get for Kulikov would likely be low, too.
But I don't really want to trade him for a late 1st either. If I had to get rid of him, I'd try to target a good D prospect (even add a 2nd if we had to) that could hopefully compete for that top 4 LD slot in training camp next year, but I dint know how realistic that is. If that's not an option, then I'm not settling for less than a 1st. It's a better trade asset and it gives us a better shot at an NHL caliber prospect in a not so deep draft.
Otherwise I'd just keep him and do my best to sign him.
He was a top 15 pick and he is still very young. I don't think we've seen what he truly brings to the table. You can tell he's still hurt. Normally Kulikov is a physical, hard hitting and a much better overall defenseman than what he's shown here.
I think we have a shot at signing him to a short term deal around what he's making now. If he's interested in staying, I'd keep him and try to get him signed. Worst case, Murray can try to trade his rights for a 3rd later this offseason (not that he for sure will be able to, but who knows).
Unless Kulikov has said he has no interest in signing here or wants ridiculous money + term, then that changes things.
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And we wouldn't be any closer to the playoffs. In fact, we might be further away.
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I don't see them moving a cost-controlled defenseman. They need to move a big money guy like Fowler or Vatanen.
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After the month Lehner had in February. I thought we were past the "OMG, MUH LATE FIRST ROUNDER IS GONE!!!! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!" posts.
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Agreed. They just put their best 4th liner on waivers. No doubt a move is coming.
Vatanen makes the most sense given the 4 mil aav. But, if they can hold fast until pre-expansion draft, they could just buy out Bieksa and protect Lindholm, Fowler and 1 of Manson/Vatanen. All the rest of their guys (Montour/ Theodore/Larsson) are protected on ELC's.
But they badly need a scoring LW'er, an additional winger on the bottom 6 that can pot a couple and a depth player winger at or dam near at NHL ready for any hope in the playoffs.
Their window is on the downside now with Getzlaf, Perry going to be 32 this year and Keeler 33. I am starting to wonder what Bryan Murray's waiting for.
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Further from the playoffs closer to the goal of the Cup. Cal Perterson will be better than Lehner and the sabres future goalie and Konecny would be here. Sometimes thinking before you posts helps.
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Who's agreeing with you?
They would have 100% drafted Samsonov with that pick. Murray basically said so. And like everyone else has said we'd be further away.
But let's keep talking about that trade two years later that can never be undone.
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