Discussion in 'Soccer' started by bluesfan94, Mar 24, 2017.
"Raiola was simultaneously and illegally employed by Juve, Man Utd, and Pogba, and did not disclose this to Juve."
Pretty sure it was dembele who insisted on BVB when other clubs came to Rennes with bigger bids
No. It wasn't.
That's really not it at all. Very few if any clubs have real integrity IMO, that's just the truth of it. Clubs are out for profits and trophies, not feel good stories. It's big step from being a club with integrity to 2 foreign clubs colluding with each other for no reasonable purpose, and that's my point. You can think something shady is going on, but it doesn't make any sense that there is. Those 2 clubs entered into a consensual business transaction, it's not like China was forced into it.
*shrug* that was reported in Germany. But I wasn't exactly following that transfer day by day
To be fair that's probably how it was reported during the transfer because I remember reading the same thing.
Ajax didn't turn down Odegaard and wouldn't have, IMO. Odegaard for me has looked worse since his stint at Real Madrid. If he had gone to Ajax earlier when there was a lot more indecision and shuffling maybe he could have taken a spot, but without a doubt he would have had a better chance to develop. I don't disagree about Heerenveen being a good spot for him now to try and get back on track with his development but a move to Ajax in the first place would have suited him much better than his move to RM. IMO he'd have been a starter by this season.
As far as him being a liability obviously he's not just slotted in as a starter. He joined mid season, is still very young, and the team saw a big dip in form as soon as he did join. Results over development comes into play (not that Odegaard is innocent). He's had some good games and some bad ones. He's never been a nailed on starter though so it's not like he lost his job to anyone he's still getting decent gametime -- not really an injury time player, a late sub sometimes but more games over 50 minutes than less.
Raiola will be banned for sure.
His agent fees are far more than FIFA allowed and at least one of the clubs will get in trouble for this.
Media said it was a great choice because of playing time. Don't think DembÃ©lÃ© rejected anything.
I'm not fabricating things.
From De Telegraaf:
"Ajax was op de hoogte gebracht dat Real Madrid haar youngster deze winter wilde verhuren, meldt De Telegraaf. Maar de hoofdstedelingen gingen niet op de optie in. De club zou voldoende middenvelders in haar selectie hebben en uitbreiding in die linie was niet noodzakelijk."
Ajax was well aware that Madrid might want to loan out its youngster this winter, reports De Telegraaf. Ajax however didn't look into it, as the club had enough midfielders in it's selection and more depth at that position wasn't necessary.
I don't see where he would fit in, either.
In germany there were stories about how Bayern and Barca made bigger bids, but Dembele had his mind set on BVB being the next step in his career.
From what I've seen the two potential investigations are conflict of interest (Raiola acting on behalf of Juve, Pogba, and United at the same time) and potential third part ownership based on a rumored clause of Railoa receiving 50% of transfer fees over 40M from Juve.
Zero idea what the fallout would be beyond Raiola getting banned for a while.
We're talking about when Odegaard first left Norway for Madrid back in 2014, not him going out on loan this year. Back when he was "that 15 year old getting international caps", Ajax was most definitely interested.
K. Still irrelevant to what I said.
Finally some good news.
I'm excited to see where this won't go.
Hearing Pepe may go to PSG next season
Yeah lots of smoke here about this.
I don't get it. They have a nice CB trio and will alienate someone if Pepe is coming. Except if one of the 3 leaves. 4th CB should be a young guy with potential or an old guy who doesn't ask playing time. Pepe's old, but will ask for some playing time.
Seems odd clause for Barca, counter to the whole purpose of the loan...
I agree. Maybe I misread it. I thought it was quite stupid actually, so it's probably true.
Mundo Deportivo reporting that Chelsea and Bayern Munchen are interested in Davinson SÃ¡nchez, as well. Saying that Chelsea is ready to offer €40M for him.
PSG are using Kluivert to recruit him as well.
Yeah, as was mentioned above, we were referring to when Odegaard was first being shopped out of Norway and doing the tours of all the clubs interested in him. Obviously this winter it was a completely different situation.
Reports here say "next Neymar" Vincius Junior is going to Real at 16 for something like 40 m euros
Right. That's true.
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